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47of74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:37 AM Original message |
Democrats break abortion impasse on health care overhaul vote |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. Nice. Selling out women again. Religious right of the left wins again. |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. And every single Democratic or Rethuglicans that imposes religion on US |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. But Rahm recruited them. After all, appeasment is fine .Women don't matter. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Third party. |
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zogtheobvious (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
69. Aye.... but WHAT third party?? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
80. And Rahm/DLC are still hatching those "little BLUE eggs" . . . !!! |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I disagree with you. There are over a hundred methods of birth control. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Abortion isn't birth control. It is a medical procedure. But I guess |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Victims of rape & incest are VICTIMS and their abrtions should |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. No reply to this |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. That's not what I said. I'm talking about irresponsible people who just |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:50 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. But you are willing to pay for stupid and irresponsible addicts, alcoholics |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 02:00 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. When did I ever say I was willing to pay for Addicts & alcholoics? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 02:15 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. You do realize that soon you will be disallowing anything? Do you know how |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 11:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
96. Treating alcoholism isn't controversial; abortion is |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:33 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. You are assuming everyone has the money to pay, if they have to. That is not |
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Cass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:08 AM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Are you willing to pay for a diabetes patient? How about someone with heart disease? |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #25 |
49. Really? |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #25 |
51. Sweet Mother of Christ. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
90. No One, Ma'am, Gives Two Tenths Of a Rat's Ass What You Think Of Other People's Behavior |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #20 |
47. "people who just want to have fun and pay no consiquences" |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. I always used condoms and/or my gfs used took the pill |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
88. no no no, |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
91. Indeed, Ma'am: A Truly Disgusting And Outrageous Statement |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
74. I don't want those irresponsible people to have children. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
85. wold those "stupid people" include |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
94. do you want these same stupid, irrepsonsible people raising children they don't want? |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 02:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
26. Nice straw man there. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 02:40 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Excellent points, the name calling was unnecessary though, no? |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #28 |
52. No name is available to describe my reaction to the aforementioned posts. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
81. it was either name-calling or a long rant, and I was tired |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 04:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. needs to be repeated. |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #33 |
53. Indeed... |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
77. How are you going to determine who was "irresponsibile" or "stupid enough?" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Many women can't afford birth control . .. the costs of the pill have increased unbelievably . . AND |
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obliviously (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. What do you base this on? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:04 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Well, I happened to read it in a new book -- |
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obliviously (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. They are facts just because you say so? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Yes -- or ... you could ask, are the facts simply because an author says so . . . |
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obliviously (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Welfare is government health care. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. You want me to tell you that patriarchy makes sense? |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:05 AM Response to Reply #15 |
38. The "government" does not "give out" birth control |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
58. Are you being serious here? nt |
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obliviously (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. It certainly says that in her book. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Doesn't that make you wonder about "other drugs" and what's really going on .... ??? |
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obliviously (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:46 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. That sounds good but if you kick out the drug companys |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Government can make drugs . . . we pay for the research and then they |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
54. One thing I can say without doubt. |
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obliviously (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #54 |
87. Thank you! |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Righty-O! |
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jenniferj (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
62. I take that for granted, on the NHS the Pill is free on prescription... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #62 |
99. You live in a civilized Nation |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
65. More expensive than abortion? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. What does it matter when it is unaffordable for many poor women? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Yeah, we should give ourselves abortians. And if we drive fast and get in a wreck, NO COVRAGE! |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
30. Even Sandra Day O'Connor made an exception for health of the mother. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
72. If you didn't, you'd be depriving a female of the right to self-defense . . . |
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LeFleur1 (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
60. As Usual |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
64. Excessive consumption of animal products can cause |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 12:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
93. you do know that no method of contraception is 100%, yes? |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
101. This faces some stiff competition, but ... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
37. This is all symbolic stuff. It was already illegal to use federal money for abortions. |
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FarPoint (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
40. Well.... |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. Yep - way to go DINOS!!! Throw women under the bus - AGAIN!!! |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
13. The opportunity to offer an amendment is NOT the final word. They are giving cover, that's it. |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
16. This could screw up the Republicans - do they vote or don't they? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:47 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. You mean the "He/she was for it, before he/she was against it?"..... |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 04:49 AM Response to Original message |
32. ... if abortion coverage is out, then Viagra/Cialis should be too. |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. point well taken |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 05:20 AM Response to Original message |
34. Regardless of how they configure it |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:12 AM Response to Original message |
35. This is a sell out. |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:18 AM Response to Original message |
36. The anti-choice clowns don't seem to understand that the US is |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
41. and of course no floor vote on single payer |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
42. But Abortion is legal....And most people don't realize.... |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
43. Take A Deep Breath Folks |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I fought hard for those rights you so easily yeild |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #44 |
82. You Did Come Up With New Thoughts |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #43 |
55. You make sense to me |
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robo50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
48. I hope that if we deny women abortions, we will also deny men Viagra! |
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Diane R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
70. Yep...no viagra. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
50. Nice "fuck women" move there, dems |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. They really didn't give away much |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Well, that's good. I should read this stuff more closely before jumping to conclusions |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
76. Hetero women are getting a taste of what LGBTs have gotten from this Administration |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
56. Slowly, ever so slowly we are allowing the Republicans and the Blue Dawg Turds to push us |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. yes, slowly but surely, and Dems participate in the push backwards.!! |
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LeFleur1 (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I'm Curious |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. Oh come on! |
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showpan (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. My insurance refused to cover |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
100. Which reminds me; we all need to consider donations to planned parenthood |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
84. An abortion is a MEDICAL PROCEDURE, treestar. Why should it not be included in a |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #84 |
98. Breast augmentation is a MEDICAL PROCEDURE, bertman. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #56 |
97. + I million. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
73. This was about letting women BUY "abortion" coverage from insurance companies? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Insurance companies offering abortion coverage won't be able to offer it on the exchange |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
75. The people voting for the Hyde anti-abortion thingy, won't vote for the bill |
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mnofdichotomy (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
79. republicans use fort hood to sabatage health care. |
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Maineman (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
83. Every election for as long as necessary needs to be about health care |
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showpan (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. I disagree |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
89. Abortion is a perfectly legitment medical procedure... |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
95. drip, drip, drip - is this health care bill going to be worth it? |
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SagefemmeCollective (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
102. One step forward and a step back |
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