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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:53 AM Original message |
USA Swimming Coaches Raped, Molested, Secretly Taped Dozens of Teen Swimmers |
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SharonRB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. This is outrageous! n/t |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
2. Banned for life, exposed, and prosecuted... |
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Florida Blue (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Or the Bushies for war crimes. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. I am confused too? |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
30. I asked this question in another thread today; nobody could answer. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Statute of limitations is probably involved |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that apply only in cases where authorities are aware of |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I have no idea. I'm not a lawyer. I was only speculating on a possible |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I am also not a lawyer, and you could very well be correct. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Well, I think in the Polanski case, it was because he was a fugitive |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
53. I think it all depends on the states laws. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
59. No. The Statutes begin to run when the crime occurs. Certain things can halt that, depending upon |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. Many thanks. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #33 |
87. Criminal Statute of Limitations start to run after the crime in committed |
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feslen (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. because |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
54. Yes, and charge those covering up for pedophile priests as accessories to the crimes. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
52. The statute of limitations has often prevented criminal charges. n/t |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:15 AM Response to Reply #11 |
58. Massachusetts prosecuted a few. Statutes of limitation need amending! |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #58 |
88. Confidential confessions to Doctors, Lawyers and Priests are protected. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Or Congress |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
86. In the recent cases, the priest involved had been banned. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. Culture of silence in youth hockey in Canada |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. Convicted pedophile back coaching youth hockey |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
42. This happens in a lot of fields (thanks for finding the hockey ref, I was going to look for it) |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
76. I'm sure it happens in every organization |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
46. Unbelievable! |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. i think it's got something to do with |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. banned????? Where are the criminal charges? |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I want to know too |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Mentions court documents... |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Looks like ABC is embargoing the details . . . |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Unfortunately it can be very hard to get a court case together for this sort of thing |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I hear you - however, I fear it becomes a matter of being offered a choice to |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. i don't think you understand what hearsay means |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
60. True, but, without a witness or physical evidence, it is referred to as "he said, she said." |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
78. that is certainly true |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
51. The Two Individual Examples Cited Both Mentioned Criminal Charges Were Filed. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:39 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. yes - and apparently 34 without criminal charges |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:38 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Maybe they doubt they can get a conviction. Please see Reply 60. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #62 |
72. that's true . . . sad, but true - these guys are predators |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:51 AM Response to Reply #57 |
69. Why Are People Reading That Into This Article? |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #69 |
73. they have done enough research to know that 36 are banned, and there are only 2 |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Nowhere In the Article Does It Say That Only Two Men Were Criminally Charged. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:55 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. you don't know that . . . now do you |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. One of my former gymnastics coaches was busted recently for this. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. people DO get away with this |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
61. Males are not always safe. |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
15. This very thing has hit our family recently |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Rape is about power, male rape in prison systems world wide |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
63. "Rape is about power." So they say. I don't think it is always that simple. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:17 AM Response to Reply #18 |
66. I agree - what makes these cases similar to what's been happening in the Church |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Male war on women? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. I am sorry. Cant imagine and thoughts are with you(nt) |
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kurtzapril4 (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
36. Re:This very thing has hit our family recently...... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
65. So very sorry, Plucketeer. |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
19. Rape and sexual contact with minors are CRIMES. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. you need probable cause to file charges |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
21. I despair for the human race and particularly for males, |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
22. So 36 went free, and all the priests and bishops too |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Often, it turns out that those who are preying on children are most vocal about M.Jackson being |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
64. Got any examples? |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
89. Several priists have gone to jail |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
28. I hope criminal charges are forthcoming. |
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dugaresa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
29. Predators normally go where the prey is and that is sadly how this shit happens |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
37. Probably Catholic coaches. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
38. WHERE ARE THE FUCKING CRIMINAL CHARGES!?! |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. Of the Two Individual Examples Quoted In the Article, Both Were Brought Up On Criminal Charges |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
40. At least they were banned for life |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
41. Horrific. unspeakable. Those men should be in jail ..... how disgusting... |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
43. I had a former swim coach get arrested for molesting two of the older male swimmers |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
44. Such a horrendous problem, there needs to be a pro active approach |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
47. I coached female teams and basically kept one foot between me and my players, except for high fiving |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:23 AM Response to Reply #47 |
68. thanks for your post. and the exclamation not attracked to a kid.... ! |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
48. "See! Other People Molest Kids Too!" |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
49. So much for celibacy being the cause of pedophilia...nt |
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pasto76 (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
56. This is nothing like the catholic systemic abuses |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
67. A very high level ballet teacher we know is in prison for such actions with young girls |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:38 AM Response to Reply #67 |
84. I knew a couple as well |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
70. It's time to let the state oversee such activities... |
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Qutzupalotl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
71. This thread is better without pictures. n/t |
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True_Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
79. Brian Hindson might not have ever been caught |
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subaltern (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
80. This isn't comparable to the Catholic priest business in the least. In fact |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. THANK You. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 08:35 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Not in the least. |
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subaltern (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 04:07 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. not even close nt |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
83. Sickos!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
91. kick |
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