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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:16 PM Original message |
Lawmaker: Obama to send 1,200 troops to border |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. You may not approve of this but it will go a long way to regaining some trust |
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FarLeftFist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. This should shut some people up for a while. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Good on you. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I can only hope that a serious move on immigration reform is going to follow quickly |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
40. Let's assume that a big move on immigration does come. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. I'm still not clear what "this issue" is |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. I thought it was the Irish and then the Italians. |
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proudohioan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Followed by my ancestors, the dirty, filthy 'bohunks'. n/t |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. you nailed it |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
50. Assuming that migrants have been moving out of the US since the economic collapse |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
75. Simple logic |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. That creates a political problem |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. 16 or more states plus many cities are creating the political problem for Obama |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
76. You have it wrong... |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
82. Yep. People are scapegoating because these are desperate times. it's to be expected :( |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. +1 It won't cost the country much to respond to Arizona's supposed concerns nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Oh, yes it will and in the fastest growing voting demographic. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. It seems like Obama is trying to cool the turn to AZ type legislation |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. I think he's trying to change the topic from the gulf. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Sad. You're no doubt right on that. I keep hoping he's making reasonable moves! nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. He's giving the haters impunity. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Critical thinking, that's what's going out the window. That AZ is scary! nt |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
60. Undocumented immigrants cannot vote. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
86. Really? Then you have no idea how mixed a large number of these |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. I agree with you. But that's not what Obama is doing. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Increasing your political capital via racism is, what? What should we call that? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. Does no one in Arizona know that ICE's "secure communities" |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. no, they jsut know there are "Mexicans" moving into their neighborhoods |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Next thing you know, quesso fresco and that leads straight to birria! |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. Questions for you... why only Democrats taking flack for this? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. They are angry at the feds in general but the Dems are the ones in office right now. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Won't make any difference |
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mfcorey1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. That is easy to fix. Just place bilingual guards within each group of troops where they are ... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Troops are not trained as law enforcement officers |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
47. He Would Be Better Off |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. So now they'll distract us from the corporate destruction of the economy by shooting a few Mexicans? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. They will be parked out in a remote area and confined to their tents. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I can only hope |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. The Border Patrol usually loses about 1-2 agents a year along the entire border. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. You don't have to go very far across the border |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
69. Yes, but it really does seem to stop at the border. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. DU knee-jerk response team is the only thing that is getting operational benefit today. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. And you can because you are at zero risk |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I might have a different opinion two hours. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
51. If you know so little about this issue |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I suspect that many of those giving opinions know less than you do. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. And you would be wrong. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I could be wrong. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. This is the information that the Administration has carefully leaked out |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Reacting to the incomplete information can still be knee-jerk. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. because in this case we are reacting to an official announcement |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. We know that 1,200 troops will be at the border. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
53. So, you don't know the context but you know enough to name call? |
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chowder66 (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. ...drug running and smuggling of people |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
11. Seriously. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Wake up. Lots of US Citizens resent the illegals, more with the economic downturn nt |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. The downturn was expected (engineered), which is why the Mexicans were set up as the scapegoats |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #25 |
84. Yep, and no one cares about the wars anymore. Hey, people on here are cheering for more wars! |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
83. Yeah, and these same people admit to doing illegal things themselves. I hate that term. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. I expect that this is done at the request of AZ Democrats who want to |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. How exactly does it "beat back" against Brewer? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. It doesn't. It makes her look right when she's full of sh!t. n/t |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Agreed |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. We could take the Southwest out of the swing column |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
64. It takes the steam out of the RW argument. They can't say that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. You conflate drug violence with immigration but you know that. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. What? I do not. I explained my point.. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. makes sense, plus other states want to enact the same legislation nt |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. Is this to keep them in or keep them out? nt |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
16. Eeek! |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
21. let`s see.... |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
30. Arizona's "immigrant crisis" is really a GOP plot to steal the election in November |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. And it's sick that Obama is playing into their hands instead of turning the conversation |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Sicker yet, that's exactly what AZ Democrats are asking him to do. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #45 |
66. That isn't the reason. And troops on the border isn't new. Janet did that too. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. As I said, I know now exactly why Latinos don't come out |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Actually, you prove you don't know any Arizona Latino voters. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-26-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #70 |
85. Oh, please. You were just last week or so extolling the Maricopa Co. voting systems |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
34. This is a seriously stupid idea |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
57. I'd think, if we have 1,200 Naional Guard troops available, |
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greencharlie (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
61. mmmm hmmmm... it's an election year! nt |
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Aslanspal (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
65. The right move considering what Arizona is doing |
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
72. Hey Obama! Where's the change you promised US? |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
73. Obama to Send 1,200 Guard Troops to Mexico Border |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. Thanks. |
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Baclava (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
74. So we now have our own 2000 mile long Gaza Strip? |
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The abyss (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
78. Which way are they sealing? |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-25-10 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
81. Soon, we are going to run out of troops. I don't see why Arizona can't send in their own, lol. |
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Steve20 (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-27-10 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
89. re |
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