'I'd do it again' former President Bush tells Grand Rapids crowd about waterboarding terrorists

[Newsjock]

Source: Grand Rapids Press

Former President George W. Bush was by turns affable, relaxed -- and deadly serious in his local appearance Wednesday.

"Yeah, we water-boarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed," Bush said of the terrorist who master-minded the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on New York and Washington. He said that event shaped his presidency and convinced him the nation was in a war against terror.

"I'd do it again to save lives."

In a speech and question-and-answer session before the Economic Club of Grand Rapids, Bush defended his decision to go to war in 2003 with Iraq.

"Getting rid of Saddam Hussein was the right thing to do and the world is a better place without him," Bush said.

But he also made it clear he would leave political potshots at President Barack Obama to others, saying: "You are not going to see me in the public square criticizing the president."

Read more: http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/06/id_do_it_again_former_presiden.html

[mbperrin]

1. Confessed war criminal. Will he ever be punished?

?

[cstanleytech]

9. Doubtful. Lets be honest, just about no president is really ever punished

in our country for whatever they do.
Sure there are the rare ones like Clinton who got punished for lying about a blowjob but the ones who do the big stuff like order truly major criminal acts get off free as a bird usually, its just the way it is sadly.

[tabatha]

2. I thought he said the USA does not torture.

[sakabatou]

3. He confesses! Now let's take him to the Hague!

[Stuart G]

23. Agreed, K and R

[burnsei sensei]

31. +1

nt

[Aslanspal]

4. I think this should go back to the Judge

I hope the Judge pulls his sorry ass back into court and reminds him of stiffer penalty

[Amonester]

5. why is that bragging war criminal not in jail yet?

the world would be a better place without him walking around scot-free...

in fact, the world would be a better place if that sad excuse for a human being had not stollen the presidency (twice)

[jgraz]

12. Because our current president has decided to be an accessory after the fact.

[Stuart G]

25. agreed

[ej510]

6. Another reason this mother fucker should be behind bars.

Fuck him and his entire evil family.

[saigon68]

22. K & R

[jazzelle]

61. k + r

jail him

[merh]

7. Did you realize that in 1920 the Mississippi Supreme Court

reversed the murder conviction of a young African-American male, charged with killing a white man because his confession was secured by *the water cure* which consisted in pouring water into his nose, confessions thus obtained were not free and voluntary.

. . . he hands of appellant were tied behind him, he was laid upon the floor upon his back, and, while some of the men stood upon his feet, Gilbert, a very heavy man, stood with one foot entirely upon appellant's breast, and the other foot entirely upon his neck. While in that position what is described as the “water cure” was administered to him in an effort to extort a confession as to where the money was hidden which was supposed to have been taken from the dead man. The “water cure” appears to have consisted of pouring water from a dipper into the nose of appellant, so as to strangle him, thus causing pain and horror, for the purpose of forcing a confession. Under these barbarous circumstances the appellant readily confessed. White v. State, 129 Miss. 182, 91 So. 903, 904 (Miss. 1920)

And again in 1926 the Mississippi Supreme Court reversed a conviction because the confessions were not freely and voluntarily given because the accused was subjected to the water cure. Fisher v. State, 145 Miss. 116, 110 So. 361 (Miss. 1926).

[ej510]

10. Disgusting.

[lumpy]

14. Waterboarding was done during the Salem witch trials.

As well as other tortures. That is as far as some of US leaders have progressed since those times.

[Kringle]

8. how many people were waterboarded? nt

[Toots]

26. Does it matter?

It is like murder. It doesn't matter if you kill one person or a hundred, you still committed murder.

[Kringle]

55. was it 1,000 ... 10,000 ... or more?

10,000 abused people is much worse
than 1,000

[Vickers]

60. Yeah, it's like ten times worse!!!

:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

You're trying SO hard, aren't you? It's sweet!

[The abyss]

11. The Good Old USA

We elect ‘em

We pay ‘em

We support ‘em

Are we compliant in their crimes?

When do the American people draw that line?

[No Elephants]

57. Apparently, we used up our line-drawing capacity in the 1700s, with another King George.

[Mind_your_head]

13. Have another drink, George....

It's 'on the house'....

[lumpy]

15. Yes, drink a little hemlock along with it, George, you SOB.

v

[tavalon]

16. Of course you would, you chickenshit silverspoon sociopath

[activa8tr]

51. I have to remember that ... good terms for GWB.... right on all counts! n/t

[brettjv]

17. 'The terrorist who masterminded 9/11'?

Wait ... I could swear that people are innocent until proven guilty in this country?

If memory serves, don't newspapers pretty much ALWAYS adhere to the principle of using words like 'alleged' and 'accused' when discussing SUSPECTS in criminal cases?

Apparently, though, when the former Pretzeldunce is admitting to the criminal act of ordering someone to be tortured, it's appropriate to refer to that person as though it's already been proven that they ARE, in fact, a convicted mass-murderer.

Clearly, after all these years, Dulles' Mighty Wurlitzer plays on ...

[leveymg]

19. I'd say, GWB is as much at fault for the loss of 3000 lives on 9/11 as KSM

He'd do it again.

[bluestateguy]

18. I will support waterboarding BP executives

and other corporate white collar terrorists. I certainly will support that, indeed.

[SemperEadem]

20. at least someone of that party can open a can of act right

he needs to talk to his vp about following suit. They both need to shut the fuck up and go sit down.

There is no defense about attacking and invading a country that had nothing to do with al qaeda or 9/11 for their oil.

So he'd start another unnecessary war in his quest for oil and exploitation of natural resourses for his own enrichment and send your children to go die and maime themselves in the process then turn their backs on them when they return from battle, is what he's saying. Thank you for that clarification you ass.

[SemperEadem]

21. I'll bet not a one of the people who whooped and cheered

sent a child over to fight. They all sat back and got fat off the spoils.

[City Lights]

24. Still clueless after all these years...

x(

[Stuart G]

27. "Excessive bail shall not be required, ..fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Eighth Amendment – Prohibition of excessive bail and cruel and unusual punishment.

"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Put the crook in jail, he admitted breaking the law.

[Mari333]

28. we are a terrorist state.

[Mari333]

29. and this is why we have no credibility when we discuss human rights

we are a terrorist nation that allows criminals like Bush to skate.

[Stuart G]

30. Has this jerk ever answered to anyone? about his lies? all of them?

[Solly Mack]

32. k/r

[OhioChick]

33. Wow....What a real gem.

:eyes:

[47of74]

34. If I was President

Former President George W. Bush's mailing address would now start with the words ADX Florence...

[kpete]

35. 'I'd do it again' former President Bush tells Grand Rapids crowd about waterboarding terrorists

Source: Michigan Live

'I'd do it again' former President Bush tells Grand Rapids crowd about waterboarding terrorists
By Ted Roelofs | The Grand Rapids Press
June 02, 2010, 11:18PM



GRAND RAPIDS -- Former President George W. Bush was by turns affable, relaxed -- and deadly serious in his local appearance Wednesday.

"Yeah, we water-boarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed," Bush said of the terrorist who master-minded the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on New York and Washington. He said that event shaped his presidency and convinced him the nation was in a war against terror.

"I'd do it again to save lives."

In a speech and question-and-answer session before the Economic Club of Grand Rapids, Bush defended his decision to go to war in 2003 with Iraq.

"Getting rid of Saddam Hussein was the right thing to do and the world is a better place without him," Bush said.

Read more: http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/06/id_do_it_again_former_presiden.html

[ixion]

36. that little piece-of-garbage belongs in a cell in the Hague

Not sitting in a comfy chair in a tux talking rot about being "the Decider"

[pundaint]

46. Next time we'll just have to vote for Change. Surely there's somebody who doesn't believe

in the imperial presidency who might run.

[rasputin1952]

37. No matter how they dress up that turd...

he consistently looks like an idiot.

What the hell is he doing in a tux anyway? Is he doing a matinee at the Bijou?

[Jennicut]

38. But it did not "save lives." It made things worse for us.

[Titanium-Salute]

39. Gee someone is feeling a little left out right now

President Butt-Boy and Pickles must be feeling a little lonely these days. Hanging outin Grand Rapids?

Georgie: "please, someone, listen to me. I am relevant i tell ya. RELEVANT!"

[Jefferson23]

40. We know you'd do it again, and why you're the most mocked

POTUS. Arrogant son of a bitch, I truly despise this man.

[Xipe Totec]

41. Reprobate nt

[fatbuckel]

42. But like Palin,he`s a non-issue. Stop giving him exposure.

[Bigmack]

43. I know the Nazi thing gets overused these days...but....

Didn't the defendants at Nuremberg sound like that.

Anybody who says that they would repeat an action viewed by the world as a war crime is a dumbshit... but we knew that all along, didn't we?

[FiveGoodMen]

54. Nuremberg has been overturned.

[rocktivity]

44. Oh, goody! Can we prosecute him NOW?

:eyes:
rocktivity

[FailureToCommunicate]

45. +1

[Doctor_J]

47. Man how I wish

someone would grab him off the street and webcast a 20 min waterboarding session of this sociopath. Doing so would stain the entire neocon cabal, render them unelectable, and thus save many lives and dollars.

[Faygo Kid]

48. POS

Nothing more needs be said. Wait until Jeb runs. The Bushes rule this country.

[No Elephants]

58. He looks wasted. A lot like America looked when he left office, in fact.

[Ian David]

49. See also: George W. Bush Says He’d Torture Again

George W. Bush Says He’d Torture Again
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=324930&mesg_id=324930

[joe black]

50. Smart move Bushitler.

You wouldn't want to piss off the guy that can send you to the slammer.
(You won't see me criticizing the president)

[Stuart G]

52. Is this the first time this clown has publically admitted he decided this?

[LynnTheDem]

53. Because once a war criminal, always a war criminal.

And fact is, George W. bUsh is a war criminal.

May there truly be a just God.

[New Dawn]

56. War crimes trials for Neocons!

[No Elephants]

59. Unprosecuted crime family scion

[mbperrin]

62. We hanged the Japanese for waterboarding during WWII.

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/correction-we-actually-did-execute-j

I hope the Shrub gets everything he deserves in this life and quickly.






I could not be more sincere.

[EgyptianGirl]

63. To save lives?

I feel sorry for him, he seems to believe what he were saying, after Sep 11 we were sad and angry innocent people were killed. He is stupid to think that his wars stopped terrorists when it was internal talks and guilt who did it. If wars did something it is more terrorists not less but he is stupid to think otherwise.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

64. Of course he would. He's a sadist, and a moran.

A POS if ever there was one. May hell welcome him soon.