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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:37 AM
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Pelosi: We'll stop blaming Bush when problems go away
Source: The Hill


Pelosi: We'll stop blaming Bush when problems go away
By Michael O'Brien - 06/11/10 09:31 AM ET

Democrats will keep blaming George W. Bush until the problems from his administration end, according to Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

In an interview with MSNBC, Pelosi said congressional Democrats feel justified in blaming the Bush administration because of the problems it left behind for President Barack Obama.

Asked if there was a statute of limitations on blaming Bush, Pelosi said: "Well, it runs out when the problems go away.

"He brought us to the brink of financial crisis, he brought us to the brink of deep recession, ignoring issues related to climate change," said Pelosi (D-Calif.), who rattled off a number of problems she said Democrats inherited from Bush and are trying to fix.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/102657-pelosi-dems-blame-on-bush-still-warranted
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:40 AM
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1. Tough talk from Ms. Impeachment Is Off The Table
I won't be impressed with Pelosi until she starts calling for criminal charges against Bush and Cheney.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 11:07 AM
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11. Nancy Pelosi reminds me of the old misogynist joke.
A lovely lady lies on a table. A villain in a black cloak stands over her. We watch as a chain saw is moving toward her and she screams, "I'll pay the rent. I'll pay the rent."

The Republicans have tied her to a table, and with the Blue Dogs they are standing over her. The chain saw moves toward her, and she agrees to do whatever. And then of course, "They made me do it. I didn't want to. It wasn't my fault."

Recently, Nancy Pelosi has actually managed to accomplish a couple of small things. But for the most part she is beholden to too many right-wingers in both parties. And she is not an effective speaker. She does not convey a sense of confident authority. Rather she always seems rather nervous and lacking in confidence.
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 02:03 PM
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16. Over the last year I have learned a huge lesson on how to not judge people
by their mental pathology, lack of spine or subjective world view, but when such things are obvious, giving them the benefit of the doubt can be lethal, especially when their elected to high office. Over the last thirty years I have watched as people defend their choice of champions, noble causes, political paradigms and lesser evils, all this, as the American dream for many has been subverted and usurped by the elite predator class with whom our elected politicians wine and dine like union stewards looking for a huge corporate bonus; while for a growing population hope fades...

Is Pelosi beholden too right-wingers or is she (psychologically speaking) a right-winger herself? This is not a question as to what character traits separate the right from left, but rather; it is a question about what character traits separate the right from the truth, common sense from folly and justice from the law. In the end, anyone who is not part of the solution is part of the problem…


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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 11:22 AM
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12. There it is, as always...
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:42 AM
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2. A very good way to blame them is to charge them
If she would do that, wonderful. Until then its just rhetoric.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:43 AM
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3. K&R #1 for, EXCELLENT answer, Nancy, also Post #2!1 n/t
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:45 AM
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4. That's why Republicans hate that wonderful woman so much. She's got ....
more balls than any Republican male could dream of having.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:51 AM
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5. ick!
I reject the terms you're using, there.

But in what way, avoiding your imagery, would they be frightened of her? In what way has she done anything that made them concerned?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 06:34 AM
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23. Thank you.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 06:27 AM
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21. Please do not equate courage with male genitalia.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:54 AM
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6. Useless hollow words Nancy. If you
won't do anything but blame him, the problems never go away. Action is needed, not empty rhetoric.
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alc Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 10:05 AM
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7. fix first then blame
At least that's how it is in my current job and others I've had. If I take over a project that's behind schedule, over budget, etc and every status report I submit includes "It's my predecessor's fault" my boss will tell me to cut it out. I should do one report to assess the situation that I took over, then a postmortem review when the project is done to determine how & why things went wrong and who's to blame and how to avoid the problem next time.

My manager (or HR or legal) may be looking into "blame" as I work to determine what should happen to my predecessor but my focus needs to be on fixing things regardless of the cause.

I know politics is different since they are constantly marketing themselves and their party and blame is part of that. But when it appears you're more focused on the blame than the fix you need a different strategy. At the very least, continue to be able to cite progress you've made in addition to affixing blame.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 10:12 AM
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8. Blame away, but....
in the meantime....fix things. A little less talk and a lot more action in the proper direction would impress me more than anything said. Quit acting like a child in a sandbox, "but, I didn't do it...waaah" <----moot point, the portion of the populace that put you in office (and seemingly keeps you there) knows whose fault it is. Get off your high horse and do your job for a change.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 10:17 AM
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9. Yeah, whatever, Nancy. Hold them accountable
otherwise, all you're doing is talking sh*t.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 10:27 AM
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10. Sorry, Nancy, when you continue Bush policies, you are part of the problem too.
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Big_Mike Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-10 02:05 PM
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26. It is a nice political phrase, but in reality
wouldn't we still be blaming Thomas Jefferson, or even the French for that matter, for the drainage problems in New Orleans, since he authorized the Louisiana Purchase? What is the half-life on blaming the dummy?

Nope. Ownership resides in D.C., regardless of who is titularly in charge.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 11:57 AM
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13. Good!
Bush screwed the country, why stop blaming him just because he's not in office anymore?

Don't forget Reagan, either.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:12 PM
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14. K and R for the teabaggers and freepers to see
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:43 PM
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15. There’s nothing like seeing a bunch of co-conspirators playing the blame game.
I bet it makes the prosecutors job so much easier when common criminals rat each other out, but there's no doubt as to how we all suffer when above the law politicians do this, flaunting it as if it is some tangible action towards justice, even though there is no intention of seeking justice, the affect diminishes the law and lowers the morals standards on which the laws are based; and for a decaying society ignorance becomes the facade of complicity.




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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 02:40 PM
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17. A little theme music to go with that pronouncement.
"Democrats will keep blaming George W. Bush until the problems from his administration end, according to Speaker Nancy Pelosi."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic

Thanks for the thread, kpete.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 02:42 PM
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18. It's so much better to be drowning in the aftermath...
...than it would have been to nip the problem in the bud, isn't it Nancy.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:39 PM
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19. So stop fucking continuing his policies you dumbass!
!
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 08:19 PM
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20. But Nancy...
...you approved his military budgets, year after year....
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 06:32 AM
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22. False .bravado. Thanks to both Parties, the problems from Bushco are unlikely ever to end.
And, we have broken the rule of law.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:19 AM
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24. Lawmakers Seek To Gut Ethics Office (6-11-10 Politico article by Jonathan Allen & John Bresnahan via
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 11:19 AM by bobthedrummer
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:20 AM
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25. And somehow that makes the cause of cause-and-effect simply disappear? How a-historic of her.
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