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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:17 PM
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Look at Military Deaths in Iraq - 584 U.S. service members have died
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040325/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_us_deaths&cid=540&ncid=1480

As of Thursday, March 25, 584 U.S. service members have died since the beginning of military operations in Iraq (news - web sites) a year ago, according to the Department of Defense (news - web sites). Of those, 394 died as a result of hostile action and 190 died of non-hostile causes, the department said. snip


Since May 1, when President Bush (news - web sites) declared that major combat operations in Iraq had ended, 446 U.S. soldiers have died — 279 as a result of hostile action and 167 of non-hostile causes, according to the military.

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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:24 PM
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1. Dead for a Bush lie.
May the sonofabitch rot in HELL.
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0rion Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:25 PM
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2. non-hostile deaths don't count.....
according to the Pentagram.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:44 PM
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4. Uhh, yeah they do
Did you not read the article?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:40 PM
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3. Closing in on 600 then 700 then 800
The public continues to worry about Kobe, Scott Peterson and the new American Idol.

Only if its your child killed in Iraq-Nam will you grieve apparently. (except us here)

Its a sick society out there.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:27 PM
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8. They have heard about Richard Clarke's testimony.
Someone was talking about an amazing poll number tonight that said that 9 out of 10 Americans had heard of Richard Clarke's testimony. Even FAUX had the number at 65% with 52% saying he was believable and only 26% saying he was not believable. It's not just Iraq, but it suggests that people are paying attention.

Also, I heard another poll tonight that said that more people NOW are paying attention to Iraq than were doing so last fall.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 11:28 PM
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17. Can't be compared to nam
We lost 500 per week there, not 500 per year.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 11:30 PM
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18. Go back and look at the first years of Viet Nam.
The death count was similar to the deaths in Iraq.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 11:32 PM
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19. You're probably right but
I don't think we had as many "advisors" on the ground there either in the beginning. I hope it never escalates to that level and we get them all back home soon.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 11:34 PM
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20. We were in 'Nam for half a decade before we started losing
such a high number per week.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 07:48 PM
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5. I thought it was 589?
or maybe I've lost track. Seems I saw another post here today that put it at 589. It's a damn shame that we can't even get correct numbers from this lying administration. And I wish the whores in the media would stop "qualifying" the deaths with the lame "since Bush declared the war was over" or "non-hostile deaths", etc. etc. etc. Dead is dead, and they are all war related and because of his reckless policy.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:10 PM
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6. Lunaville has it at 589
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 08:38 PM by Columbia
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx

DOD doesn't actually release numbers, the media compiles them and sometimes they get it wrong.

Lunaville does an excellent job of keeping track with a lot of details and breakdowns.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:29 PM
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9. Hi Columbia!
My head is still spinning from that empty head who was on the thread about military fatalities the other night.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:39 PM
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11. Hi alcuno!
No kidding! It's just impossible to argue with people who are not willing to see the facts only because they disagree with the conclusion.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 09:49 PM
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13. Why must you reduce skepticism to ad hominem attacks?
The simple truth is that there is no independent confirmation of the mortality and morbidity reports coming from the US military.

Even the sites which you so cherish ADMIT that they compile numbers based on US military reports. Those sites do an admirable job at cross-checking the AVAILABLE data - and the sites themselves ADMIT that there is no way to truly CONFIRM that US military reports are accurate.

Again, you two BELIEVE. Others, including myself, remain skeptical. Still others go a step further and DISPUTE the figures.

I am curious - why have you two so readily adopted a practice so well-embraced by rePubs - avoid the facts while trashing the person who disagrees?



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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:15 PM
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7. this month alone
there have been 40 deaths. In a related story,

"The Army planned to publicly announce the team's findings and recommendations on Thursday.
There were at least 24 suicides among U.S. soldiers in Iraq and Kuwait last year, according to the Army's count. That number may increase because the circumstances of some other deaths are still in doubt.
That equates to a suicide rate of 17.3 per 100,000 soldiers, compared with a rate of 12.8 for the entire Army in 2003 and an average rate of 11.9 for the Army during the 1995-2002 period, according to officials familiar with the mental health study. . .The overall U.S. civilian suicide rate during 2001 was 10.7 per 100,000, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040325_775.html

Does Bush care? :mad:
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m-jean03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:32 PM
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10. And as for the 100+ more non-American
coalition soldiers who have died, I guess it is nuts to think many people care about them at all. (Beyond DU) As for myself I will always speak in terms of total coalition casualties when discussing the occupation, I think it's nuts just to count "us".
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 08:50 PM
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12. Over 600 as of today.
607 by my count.

http://cryptome.org/mil-dead-iqw.htm

Straight from DOD

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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 10:53 PM
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15. Well done site
Thanks for the link to this historical record.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 09:51 PM
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14. My extrapolation of the other night put the 1000 mark at about ...
Pearl Harbor Day (12/7/2004).
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 10:58 PM
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16. don't you think that dead Iraqis should be included in all these . . .
stories about deaths in Iraq . . . after all, it's THEIR country . . . sheesh . . .
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 11:37 PM
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21. Probably more then 1000
I believe they are lying thru their teeth.
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