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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:36 AM
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Caribbean won't accept Haiti's new gov't

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-03-26-caribbean-summit_x.htm

BASSETERRE, St. Kitts (AP) — The 15-nation Caribbean Community refused recognition Friday for Haiti's new U.S.-backed government amid continuing concerns over the departure of ousted leader Jean-Bertrand Aristide, senior Caribbean officials said.

The move came a day after the leaders demanded that the U.N. General Assembly investigate Aristide's claims he was abducted at gunpoint by U.S. agents when he left Feb. 29 as rebels threatened to attack Haiti's capital.

"We can't determine this issue at this meeting," Trinidad Prime Minister Patrick Manning said as he left a summit meeting of Caribbean leaders. He added that discussions were "quite tense" and that a final determination would be put off until leaders discuss the issue again at a summit in July in Grenada.

He gave no further details, but other Caribbean leaders said their minds were made up that Haiti's new U.S.-backed government would not get official recognition from the Caribbean Community for now.

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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:54 AM
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1. Don't they know that's going to piss off BushCo?
Pissant little countries refusing to acquiesce to our world view and demands. How dare they! The Arogance! The outrageousness!

I Salute Them!

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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 08:03 AM
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2. News reports I read
said Condi is fuming...She is so glad of executive privilege, so she won't be required to lie...Proud that these piss ant countries have to timidity to stand up for democracy..But will the UN be able to withstand US pressure from Buschco... Reports said Jamaican govt.had been under tremendous pressure to force Aristide back to Africa.
Wonder the US did not have Aristide assasinated. Why Bush has an afinity to Ton Ton Machote style governments,meanwhile killing democratic elements in Haiti. Buschko has lots to hide.
Maxine Waters will push for democratic values this side of the Carribbean.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 10:26 AM
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3. What's not to accept?


The departure of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide from Haiti on Sunday, Feb. 29, 2004, leaves a power vacuum in Haiti. Players in recent political events are shown from left, Andy Apaid Jr., Boniface Alexandre, Louis-Jodel Chamblain, Evans Paul, Guy Philippe and Butteur Metayer. (AP Photos/Files)



Andre Apaid, one of the opposition leaders, speaks during a news conference in Hotel Villa Creole, Port-au-Prince, Haiti, Monday Feb. 23, 2004. (AP Photo/Pablo Aneli)



The interim President of Haiti, Bonface Alexandre, left and the new Prime Minister of Haiti, Gerard Latortue sit during the ceremony to announce their new cabinet at the National Palace in Port-au-Prince, Haiti on Wednesday March 17, 2004.(AP Photo/Dolores Ochoa)



Evans Paul, a leader with Haiti's opposition Democratic Platform speaks during a news conference in Port-au-Prince, Haiti, Wednesday, Feb. 25, 2004. Opposition leaders rejected a U.S.-backed peace plan for Haiti that would have Jean-Bertrand Aristide remain as president but share power with political rivals. (AP Photo/Ricardo Mazalan)



Haitian rebel leader Louis-Jodel Chamblain is seen in front of the burning police station of Cap-Haitien, Haiti, Sunday, Feb. 22, 2004. Rebels on Sunday seized the government's last major bastion in the north, Cap-Haitien, shooting off celebratory rounds in the air as people looted and several torched buildings sent a pall of black smoke over the city. (AP Photo/Walter Astrada)



Haitian rebel leader Guy Philippe speaks with a rebel soldier in front of the Mont Joli Hotel in Cap-Haitien, Haiti, Monday, Feb. 23, 2004. Rebels who overran Haiti's second-largest city of Cap-Haitien began detaining people identified as supporters of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide on Monday and said they would attack the capital Port-au-Prince soon. (AP Photo/Walter Astrada)



Haitian rebel leader Buteur Metayer holds his arms up in the city of Gonaives, February 19, 2004. (Reuters/Daniel Aguilar)


And our guy what would the Haitians do without him


Roger Noriega, center, top U.S. envoy for the Western Hemisphere, attends a news conference at the Montana Hotel, Port- au-Prince, Haiti, Saturday, Feb 21, 2004. President Jean-Bertrand Aristide agreed Saturday to a U.S.-backed peace plan calling for shared power with political opponents, a new prime minister and fresh legislative elections. (AP Photo/Pablo Aneli).
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:08 AM
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5. thanks for those pics -- esp the ones showing military equip
was real interesting to see those pics of the "rebels" dressed up in those fatigues .... the uniforms, the shiny new helmet, and the assault rifles .... hmmmmm, where have we seen those before?

Do you have any more pics like this, or know where some more are? It'd be good to start a collection.
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:29 AM
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6. anyone recognize this military insignia?
anyone recognize this insignia on the sleeve of this uniform that the "rebel" is wearing?


A rebel drinks a coke at the police station of Cap-Haitien, Haiti, Sunday, Feb. 22, 2004. Rebels on Sunday seized the government's last major bastion in the north, Cap-Haitien, shooting off celebratory rounds in the air as people looted and several torched buildings sent a pall of black smoke over the city. (AP Photo/Walter Astrada)
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:31 AM
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7. I see you got them
check your pm
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 08:51 PM
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11. Master Sergeant. US AIR FORCE
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 11:04 AM
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4. Good going Caricom
If BushCo didn't do anything wrong, why do they have a problem with an investigation being done to find the truth?

Why would they not WELCOME an investigation, esp in the U.S., to find the truth?

If they have nothing to hide, what's their problem? They have nothing to be concerned about.

we know the answer.

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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:11 PM
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8. Other headlines
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 12:12 PM by eablair3
It's interesting to see the headlines from other news sources on this.

Chicago Tribune:
Nations reject new Haiti government
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0403270183mar27,1,5263527.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

Guardian:
Caribbean Leaders Withhold Haiti Backing
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-3908859,00.html

Miami Herald:
Regional leaders choose a neutral stance on Haiti
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/haiti/8289305.htm

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:23 PM
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9. eablair3
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/colombia.noframes/story/photo/

Good photos of Colombia here if you're interested
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 07:47 PM
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10. Uh oh, do I see some more invasions
in our future? We have to make these countries understand that they are under our dominion, and they have no right to violate our sacred will.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:04 PM
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12. I really wish the UN
would stand up to Bush. I trust and respect Kofi Anan and realize he's in a delicate position, but the Bushbot's have so castrated the UN.

I certainly don't advocate one-world government, but we must find away to peacefully inhabit the planet. I believe that hope lies with the UN.

Not that I necessarily want to root against the country in which I live, but the world needs to stand up to Bush so that we can restore are forefather's vision for America.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 09:07 PM
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13. Just wait til we get the draft going again
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 09:08 PM by Bozita
We'll show these banana growing, dope smoking, money laundering corporate havens exactly what it means to be jealous of our freedoms.

Remember Grenada?

Just wait.
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