Report: Reggie Bush expected to be stripped of Heisman

[mike r]

Source: CNN

Former University of Southern California star running back Reggie Bush is expected to be stripped of the Heisman Trophy by the end of the month, Yahoo Sports is reporting.

Yahoo Sports cited two sources close to the Heisman trust, which oversees the award given to college football's top player, as saying the group is finishing its investigation into allegations of wrongdoing at USC during the 2005 season. The sources told Yahoo the Heisman trust will eventually rule it agrees with the NCAA's assessment that Reggie Bush would have been ineligible to play during 2005 - and therefore ineligible for the award.

The decision would make Bush the first player in the 75 years of the Heisman to be stripped of the title.

Sources told Yahoo the Heisman trust would strip Bush of the award and leave it vacant - instead of awarding it to another honoree like Texas quarterback Vince Young who finished second in the voting, but by a wide margin.


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[Freddie Stubbs]

1. O. J. Simpson lost the trophy, but was not stripped of the title

[Ticonderoga]

13. No he traded it for a fat rock.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

2. Such horseshit.

Nothing Bush did had any impact whatsoever on his on-field performance. Pretending that the 2005 season didn't happen is lunacy at best.

[daylan b]

4. Actually, it cost his team every game that year.

.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

5. But why?

The school didn't do anything wrong, and nothing Bush did affected on-field performance. Heck, the infraction in question by Bush didn't even have anything to do with him being at USC - it was about pro agents.

[Blue_Tires]

7. The coaching staff or AD had to have known...

they can't even pretend to be willfully ignorant about it...

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

9. And if they did?

Again, the infractions had nothing to do with USC in any way. Why are they supposed to be the NCAA's watchdog? And again, what did this have to do with on-field performance?

[daylan b]

10. You do understand the concept of rules don't you?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

11. Yes. I also understand the concept of the NCAA being corrupt and wrong. (nt)

[daylan b]

15. So you think the NCAA framed Reggie Bush?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

18. Not at all.

I just think the NCAA has rules in place that are not reflective of either reality or of student athlete needs. The policies are designed to help the NCAA and its member colleges profit wildly off the backs of kids who get almost nothing out of the deal.

[daylan b]

21. Almost nothing as in...

...a free ride through college where they are put on pedastals and treated like royalty? Is that what you mean by "almost nothing"?

Once you throw in housing, books, and meals (which are all provided to athletes) a degree from USC is going to cost you somewhere in the range of $200,000. How much do you make where that is considered "almost nothing"?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

23. It's not what I make

It's what they make when they go to the pros where $200k for a mostly unused education is almost nothing.

[mudderfudder77]

26. But what about the other 80 players?

NCAA Division I schools are allowed to give out 85 full scholarships each year. In USC's case it is not unusual for 5-6 players to get drafted each year. Should the other 80 players who are getting 100's of thousands of dollars in tuition, room & board, travel, etc... not have to follow the rules either?

I freely admit the NCAA is a corrupt cluster-fuct - but it doesn't give Bush the right to flaunt and disobey the rules without facing some repercussions - and it doesn't absolve the AD or the school either.

They knew what the rules were - and they ignored them.

[daylan b]

27. He's not a pro.

He's supposed to be an amatuer athlete getting a free education.

The women athletes of the world who are funded by college football would like to send you a warm hearted "go fuck yourself".

[wordpix]

29. the real question is: will Kim Kardashian stand by her man in his time of need

:crazy: I think we need to debate this endlessly :sarcasm: as it's of vital importance

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

30. Who says they shouldn't be paid something too?

There's plenty of money to go around that's made from college football and basketball.

[daylan b]

31. No, there's not. Only a fraction of schools are in the black for athletics.

You seem to be somebody who has listened to a few soundbytes and thinks they know shit about college athletics.

I highly suggest doing more research on where all the money comes from and where it goes.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

32. If you say so pal.

But a more equitable distribution of revenues would solve a lot of those problems with college athletics too. Not one penny of the billions brought in by college athletics goes to the kids that actually do the work bringing in the money, and don't give me that BS on tuition - those rates are artificially high in the first place and it's a drop in the bucket compared to what the schools bring in.

[daylan b]

33. "That BS on tuition"? My gosh.

"They don't pay them anything but what they pay them." - Congrats, you just setup your own fake reality.

You're just delusional, I'm sorry I didn't realize that earlier. I'll tell the bank that the $40k in student loans I still have is just "BS".

Student athletes have their meals, housing, books, and school paid for four years, sometimes five. If you think that is nothing, well, let's be honest, there's no way a person can think that's nothing unless they're just trolling.

Regarding a drop in the bucket, you have no clue what numbers you are talking about, just admit it. Football funds TWENTY other sports at USC.

[mudderfudder77]

34. Plenty of money to go around?

That money made from Basketball and Football is used to fund sports like women's lacrosse, mens swimming, field hockey, and tens of other non-revenue producing sports. Sure there is money in big time athletics - but there is not as much leftover as you would like to believe. And when all sports are combined - most schools are running at a deficit.

[Exultant Democracy]

36. You are 100% correct, NCAA is one of the last insitutions of slavery.

The infraction in question wouldn't have been one if Bush had been a free man rather then a slave. These kids are making a lot of old white men very rich and it's pretty f-ed up that they can't act as advocates for their future without getting punished by masser.

[daylan b]

37. Lotsa slaves got $50,000/year educations huh?

I really never knew that.

Thanks for the info.

[Exultant Democracy]

38. No, lots of slave make money for their masters without getting paid, while receving room and board

If you look at the cash cow sports, and that is of course what we are talking about, very few of these fine gentlemen are given the time that they need to learn, while the profs are told to give them B's or better. I know more then a few NCAA champs including a family member who got their BA's despite being functionally illiterate.



I bet you really never knew that too...

[daylan b]

39. The free education is there for the taking, what you do with it is your responsibility

I fully realize some people waste the huge opportunity they are given in the form of a FREE college education.

Guess what? They have been given more of an opportunity than the VAST majority of kids in the world. If they throw it away, they aren't slaves, they are lazy.

Your slavery comparison is both preposterous and blatantly racist.

Seriously, how many free people saved and planned so their little kid would have the opportunity to go sit by a 'slave' in the field some day?

Claiming that the gifted athletes who are given an opportunity many would kill for are like slaves because they're predominantly black is just flat out racist if you ask me. It's both an insult to those who truly suffered the horrors of slavery and the kids who BUST THEIR ASS and save money their entire lives to pay for the opportunity to sit by those people you claim are being treated like slaves.

How fucked up as a nation have we gotten that a free education for PLAYING A SPORT is anything but an amazing opportunity?

Slavery? Dumb ass. I'd like to see the expression on the face of an actual slave when you show clips of Reggie Bush celebrating in the endzone and tell them this what modern day American slaves do. Maybe you could show them the footage of the Heisman ceremony and explain that his masters are going to take that pretty trophy from him. I'm sure they'll be compassionate for such suffering.

[Exultant Democracy]

41. There is only one word for people that work without getting paid and its slavery

and if you don't think that these kids are getting exploited then you are far too ignorant on this subject to have a rational opinion.

[daylan b]

42. Who's ignorant? They get paid every time they go to the class room.

Every time they go to the dorm the school provides.

Every time they eat a school provided meal.

Every time they get a free book.

They are free to leave any time at all.

They CHOOSE to go to school where they do.

They are WORSHIPED on campus.

You have zilch in terms of historical perspective if you think any of that has anything to do with slavery.

[daylan b]

43. Volunteer is also a word for it.

But I'm not sure it's volunteering if you get a FREE COLLEGE EDUCATION AND ROOM AND BOARD FOR FOUR YEARS out of it.

I know when I volunteer places they don't call me a slave but that may just be the places I do it.

[daylan b]

44. Intern is another word for it.

A good portion of internships are unpaid.

I'd never call our interns slaves though. That would be insulting.

[daylan b]

45. Entrepreneur is another word

Most entrepreneurs don't make money for the first few years in hopes of a larger payoff in the end.

In fact, that's a pretty darn good analogy now that I think of it. Well except entreprenuers aren't guaranteed a FREE COLLEGE EDUCATION, ROOM, AND BOARD FOR FOUR/FIVE YEARS.

[Blue_Tires]

25. if they did, then by rule they knowingly used an ineligible player

simple as that...

[daylan b]

8. He broke the rules, was ineligible to play, and paid the price.

It's not like he broke the speed limit somewhere, the rules were for the sport he was playing.

[bluestateguy]

3. How can they force him to physically return the trophy?

Will they send the police to come and get it?

[CLANG]

12. There is a special "Heisman" unit of the LAPD which handles such things.

Since they've had no experience repossessing a Heisman before, they will likely contract out to a local "REPO" company to make the confiscation. They are required by law to have the trophy molten down, and placed in a hermitically sealed mayonnaise jar under Fuck and Wagnalls porch, by noon today.

[Leftist Agitator]

22. Lol.

:rofl:

[Yeahyeah]

6. Finally a Bush has to pay for his crimes!

[pezDispenser]

14. hahahaha n/t

[nyy1998]

17. LOL

[superconnected]

24. Good one!

[wordpix]

28. fantastic! hoping for more to come

:rofl:

[TheWatcher]

16. Pretty tough break. if only he had been a War Criminal. He would have gotten off completely.

[Lost4words]

19. coffee meet keyboard! thanks, gotta get paper towels!

you cant make this stuff up!

[slackmaster]

20. At least somebody is finally going after the BFEE

:nuke:

[sofa king]

40. No, this is a Bush that can actually be caught.

Albeit not very easily.

[yurbud]

35. When will Caligula Bush be stripped of his freedom?

for committing war crimes?