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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 05:13 PM
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Possible Republican 2012 hopefuls criticize public schools
Source: Yahoo News

DES MOINES, Iowa (Reuters) – Three potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates expressed hostility toward the public school system at a home schooling rally on Wednesday in the early presidential caucus state of Iowa.

Texas Congressman Ron Paul told the crowd government wants "absolute control" of the "indoctrination" of children. Paul spoke along with Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann and Georgia businessman Herman Cain.

"The public school system now is a propaganda machine," Paul said, prompting applause from the crowd of hundreds of home schooling families. "They start with our kids even in kindergarten, teaching them about family values, sexual education, gun rights, environmentalism - and they condition them to believe in so much which is totally un-American."

Bachmann said home schooling is the "essence" of freedom and liberty. "It's about knowing our children better than the state knows our children," she said.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110323/pl_nm/us_iowa
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 05:16 PM
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1. Liars.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 04:04 PM
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24. these people always have the most dickish kids.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 05:17 PM
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2. hypocrites are ok with their kids playing on "public school" sports teams, bands, etc, though nt
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 05:20 PM
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5. Yep. I dont think they should be permitted to selectively
participate if they hold such ugly attitudes toward the system. Screw 'em.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 05:17 PM
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3. By 2012, that worm will have turned
There's not much left of the public schools for flogging purposes.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 05:20 PM
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4. I wonder how many of those at the rally
stood up and said "Heil?" This is getting scarier by the day.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 05:20 PM
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6. Imagine stupid teabaggers educating their children at home. Yep, that sure
Edited on Wed Mar-23-11 05:50 PM by RKP5637
will prepare the country for the 21st century and ensuring America is left in the dust.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 05:32 PM
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7. My kids are out of school (1) and finishing their final year (1) in college.
I was talking with my brother the other night - his kids are basically just starting (6 and 7 years old)....I told him they, at the rate Republicans are dismantling education, he's going to have to spend 3-4X what I did to get the same educational opportunity for his kids. I really ffeel bad for American families just starting out now. They are screwed. I fully expect that Republicans will continue their jihad against education. Smart people won't buy their BS.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 05:48 PM
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10. I am hopeful there will eventually be an incredible backlash against the republicans. I am
hopeful Americans aren't so far gone that they won't eventually get what the republicans stand for... I agree with what you told your brother, it's going to be horribly difficult IMO for parents to obtain a proper education for their children in the future if this continues.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 07:55 PM
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19. They are driving the teachers out of their party, along with the Latinos and gay people
I know that there were plenty of teachers who voted for Republicans. Next year, there are going to be a lot fewer!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:14 PM
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20. I have to think the politics of division eventually catches up with you.
They are anti-teacher, anti-labor, anti-gay, anti-women, anti-immigrants, anti-blacks, anti-latino, anti-minority, anti-Muslim. They are the Anti-Social Party. At some point, what's left is a very stupid core of just plain hateful people.

To win future elections, they're going to be increasingly anti-democratic and flat out legislate people from exercising their Constitutional Right to get rid of them.
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wilt the stilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 05:40 PM
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8. Lexington and Concord-NH
Edited on Wed Mar-23-11 05:45 PM by wilt the stilt
and the founding fathers ended slavery. yes Michelle I want you to teach me history and Ron your son uses the same argument that the segregationists used opposing the Civil Rights bill. Yes these are the people I want teaching my kids.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 05:48 PM
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9. So they want a parent to stay home and teach the kids
and single mothers or fathers to stay home and teach instead of working??

Need better paying jobs then and for single people what are they going to do??
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 05:50 PM
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11. it seems
that he wants single parents to PAY. if you can't homeschool, you will pay for your child's schooling. follow the money.... :(
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 06:01 PM
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14. Most important thing is to keep kids ignorant, so they will believe anything the GOP says
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 05:54 PM
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12. That will be some candidate debate.
Between whatever scum the republicans pick and Obama, they will take turns seeing who can trash schools and teachers the most. The nastiest wins, I guess.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 06:00 PM
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13. Most people in Iowa love our schools and our teachers
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wilt the stilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 06:04 PM
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15. Good schools? you want good schools
When women entered the workforce and started to compete in medicine, law and business America lost it's great talent pool. It's not the unions it's the fact we lost the talent base. You want good schools. here is how you do it. Fund it and pay teachers a starting salary comparable to an engineer. Say $ 40-50,000 a year with comparable raises that you see in the private sector. It would be expensive but you would get the real talent from colleges. These dipshits never understand that the talent pool left to make more money.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 06:16 PM
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16. where are the jobs? Why are they wasting taxpayer money on ideologies? clueless
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 06:25 PM
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17. Typical screed from the GOP...
if it's not Public Schools, it's abortion or taxes.

For the party that wants the "least control", they want to control everything, so that nice little robots will pour into society, ignorant, pregnant and into an infrastructure that fell apart because there are no taxes to support it.

My standard in these types of things is to get up and say, "let's start with government spending...every subsidy the Federal Gov has should be immediately be rescinded...every single one of them." Being out here in corn/soy country, I get a perplexed look from my Congresscritters...after all, if those hundred thousand dollar checks stopped, and corn and soy went to market at market prices...said Congresscritters would be crucified. Not to mention the price of fuel would skyrocket, chemicals would go unsold, electrical grids would go untended and never upgraded, roads would become deformed parking lots...and that's just the beginning...virtually every industry in the nation, to include service industries are kept alive by subsidies.

Then, to save even more money, get out of 2 1/2 wars, bring all troops back to US territory, call the navy back to within 300 miles off shore. Rescind the laws allowing offshore banking by corps, at taxpayer expense; not more road building for the forest industry.

But we'll have Home Schooling, with Bachmann as a poster child for the practice...that has to be a winner, after all, look at what she knows!

Oh shit, forget that last line...:D
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gadjitfreek Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 06:34 PM
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18. Too bad a meteorite
didn't land on them. Not on the clueless families, but on these horrifyingly dangerous "politicians".
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 01:26 AM
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21. Well, the cure is to layoff all the teachers??? Sickos.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 01:27 AM
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22. Rightwing insanity!
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 01:27 AM by defendandprotect
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The Nexus Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 02:07 AM
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23. Fine!!! If they want it that way....
Lets have political separatism for schools.
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