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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:34 PM
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ACLU to Defend Student Sent Home for Wearing Pro-Equality Shirt
Source: Raw Story

ACLU to defend student sent home for wearing pro-equality shirt

Published on March 23, 2011
Written by: Eric W. Dolan

An eight-grade Louisiana student who was sent home from school for wearing a pro-equality shirt is receiving support from the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

KTBS reported that De Soto Middle School student Dawn Henderson was ordered to go home after refusing to remove a shirt with the text “Some Kids are Gay. That’s OK.”

De Soto Middle School Principal Keith Simmons said he sent her home because her shirt was a distraction to other students.

“Students do not give up their free speech rights at the schoolhouse gate,” ACLU of Louisiana Executive Director Marjorie R. Esman said in a letter to Simmons. “To allow students to express one kind of opinion but not another is the very definition of censorship, and it violates the Constitutional rights of students like Dawn Henderson, who may have views different from those of her school Principal.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/23/aclu-to-defend-student-sent-home-for-wearing-pro-equality-shirt/
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:37 PM
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1. "her shirt was a distraction to other students"
Edited on Wed Mar-23-11 09:39 PM by Boojatta
What about her body? It could be a distraction if she's not wearing a burqa under that T-shirt.

Edited to add:
Hold the presses. The article at the link says "shirt", but doesn't specify whether or not it is officially a "T-shirt." My apologies.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:38 PM
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2. Love the ACLU!
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:40 PM
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3. +1000 +++ n/t
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:40 PM
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4. I love the ACLU. Think I'll join again. nt
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:42 PM
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5. I had to choose between the ACLU and the DNC, our new budget. I choose the ACLU! n/t
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The Philosopher Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:43 PM
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6. We gay kids
aren't supposed to exist. We're supposed to not have any feelings whatsoever, no crushes at all. And if you we can't handle that? Well, it's obvious what we're supposed to do.

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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:46 PM
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7. In eighth grade, is it unusual that students who aim to slander would use the spoken word "gay"?
ACLU of Louisiana Executive Director Marjorie R. Esman said (...)

"Sending Dawn home for wearing a shirt with the word ‘gay’ on it not only trampled her right to freedom of expression, but also sent a destructive message to all students that there is something wrong with being gay or even saying the word 'gay.'

Presuming that the school's response actually does generalize from written to spoken language, wouldn't the message sent by the school about spoken language tend to be more constructive than destructive?
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lobodons Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:54 PM
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8. Why is it a bad thing to refer to students as being happy?
Seems odd?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 10:47 PM
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 12:26 AM
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14. wow. inappropriate display of anger
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 01:36 AM
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16. Do you have a problem with "Straight Pride" shirts?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 02:54 PM
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21. Non-equivalence.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:06 PM
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22. Not in the eyes of the court
My point being that if you tolerate words, then pretty much all words need to be tolerated.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 09:55 PM
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9. IMO, the ACLU has erred in a case or two. Overall, though, I bow in awe of this guardian of
our rights.

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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 10:25 PM
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10. I find that ALL the clothes kids wear to school are a distraction...
Edited on Wed Mar-23-11 10:27 PM by and-justice-for-all
and therefore think that they all should wear uniforms from 3rd grade through high school.

In this case, the students freedom of expression/speech has been violated.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 07:45 AM
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19. Many Louisiana school districts require uniforms.
I live in South Louisiana. All of the surrounding parishes require school uniforms from kindergarten through high school. Parents generally agree it was a good decision.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:07 PM
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23. There are limits and opt out options for uniforms in California
and there are always those who do. As a parent I love uniforms as an educator I have mixed feelings.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 07:01 PM
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26. The option should not be made availible...
everything kids wear and how they wear it, is a distraction. I also do not see any limits, everyone attending grades 3 through 12 wearing the same thing sounds reasonable to me.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:38 PM
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28. It is state law here and those school who write such a strict dress code that
it becomes a defacto uniform lose as well.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:53 PM
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25. I think it is a good decision as well...
and there should not be an opt out option.
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devils chaplain Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 10:47 PM
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11. Such an offensive message on that shirt!
:crazy:
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 12:06 AM
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13. The principal sounds like a damn RW fool. The kid's actions are awesome, indicating
there are likely pretty great parent(s) who are standing by her.

:thumbsup: :grouphug: for Dawn & her support system and :puke: on the principal.

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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 12:31 AM
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15. Forget the message in itself
I'd be against the school's actrion even if I disagreed with the message. The ACLU hits it here:

"To allow students to express one kind of opinion but not another is the very definition of censorship"

If the policy is enforced across the board, I'm fine with it. If it is enforced selectively, it's gotta go...
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johnroshan Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 01:43 AM
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17. What kind of precedent is the school setting?!
Some views are acceptable and some are not? Schools and colleges are the very places where a radical opinion can be freely expressed and debated without retribution. Freedom of expression should be observed with great zeal there.

John.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 06:14 AM
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18. Right, but I (heart) Justin Beiber is not a distraction.
My third grade girls wear such shirts.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 08:09 AM
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20. Yep, should be a violation under the Tinker analysis...
The only other way that it would be constitutional is if the shirt could be seen by others as being sanctioned or promoted by the school pretty much, which it doesn't sound like is the case from the article.

Also, while under the Tinker anlaysis, a reasonable prediction of a disruption occuring is enough to restrict speech. As was pointed out in the article, in another case (at a high school I happened to attend some years ago in fact), there were some anti-gay incidents reported by the case, but even this was not enough to rise to the level of disruption to make a reasonable prediction that the shirt saying "Be happy, not gay" would cause conflict of some sort. In fact, the message in this case seems much more positive as well, not a negative comment on others.

So, I think looking at precedent, the ACLU has a strong case, unless there was a lot of substantial disruptions occuring at the school over the issue of homosexuality.

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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:08 PM
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24. Don't forget that wearing "straight pride" shirts have been upheld by the court
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 07:56 PM
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27. Marta and I contribute to the ACLU

For things like this! When I was in the seventh grade I remember the ACLU (Ne) coming into my class to explain our rights if arrested. It included pocket cards to carry at all times.

K&R!

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3lyford Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 09:47 PM
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29. Distractions?
Isn't learning how to discuss ideas and being an active citizen something schools care about? Ideas, even ideas that might somehow hurt really delicate peoples feelings (OMG their are gay people, were all going to die!!!!!!!!!!!!!) should be able to be presented.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 06:05 PM
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30. Could the face of a particular student or teacher be a distraction
requiring removal of that student or teacher from the classroom?
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