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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 09:58 PM
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Libertarian's lawsuit targets electronic voting machines
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A California Libertarian who filed a potentially groundbreaking lawsuit against "touchscreen" voting systems is now waiting to learn whether an appeals court will hear oral arguments in the case. ---

A ruling against DRE voting systems could halt their distribution in California, said Weber, and create a legal precedent that could slow their acceptance around the USA.

Weber, who is Chair of the Desert Area Libertarians (Riverside County Region), filed the lawsuit in August 2001. It named California Secretary of State Bill Jones and Riverside County Registrar of Voters Mischelle Townsend as defendants.

The suit was filed after Riverside County installed Sequoia Voting Systems' AVC Edge System DRE voting machines. ---

By contrast, touchscreen voting systems create "unobservable, unverifiable, non-recountable, untestable, non-public voter tallies," she said.

However, Weber lost the first round when Judge Stephen V. Wilson ruled against her on September 3, 2002.

In his decision, Wilson said "the state's interest in easy, attractive voting machines which might increase voter turnout outweighed the voters' interest in verifiable results," said Weber.

"We are baffled by his decision," she said. "Convenience won out over verifiability." ---

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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:20 PM
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1. Big F*cking kick!
:evilgrin: Thanks!
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 11:31 PM
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2. Yes, important!
"We are baffled by his decision," she said. "Convenience won out over verifiability." ---

Almost, almost unbelievable
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 07:56 AM
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3. Do they VOTE for judges in CA???
Maybe he has a 'vested' interest in non-veriable voting?
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 03:04 PM
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4. My brain just can't take any more
WTF was this judge smoking or sniffing.

In his decision, Wilson said "the state's interest in easy, attractive voting machines which might increase voter turnout outweighed the voters' interest in verifiable results," said Weber.

So he says if we have pretty machines it does not matter if our vote is counted properly. Pretty machines will increase voter turnout ?????? Well, maybe, if they offer odds. Why not just have a slot machine ??? Come vote and take a chance on winning the jackpot !!! Perhaps Poindexter could come up with some good ideas on our voting. Just keep in mind that your vote is worthless.......

:argh:

I can't take much more of this......when did I leave planet Earth??
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 04:15 PM
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5. Here's an idea to get voting numbers up:
As each voter exits, the officials in charge hand each of them $1000 in cash and a hearty "thank you!"

This might even get people to fill out a hand-ballot!


We need verifiable results, dammit!!!!!!
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-03 06:13 PM
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6. Holy Farking Snot, Batman !!!
They don't care about verifiable results ???
Let's wait to see how much they really 'don't care' when they LOSE and want a recount that they can't get !!!!?!?!?!!!????!?!?!?


UN-effing Believable !!! :mad:


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