Just In: 'State Investigating Vote Irregularities in Waukesha County Going Back 5 Years'

[BradBlog]

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Just In: 'State Investigating Vote Irregularities in Waukesha County Going Back 5 Years'

Guess what? As per our story published a few hours ago (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8472) on the still-unexplained anomalies found in past Waukesha County, WI elections, it looks like the state's Government Accountability Board (the body which oversees elections in the state) can't understand County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus' explanations for the anomalous 2006 results either, where some 20,000 more votes were tallied than "ballots cast", according to her own reports.

Just in tonight from the Wisconsin State Journal: "State investigating vote irregularities in Waukesha County going back 5 years"

Our report from earlier this evening offers a great deal more detail on the matters in question, and includes comments from Nickolaus who, the Journal reports, "was unavailable for comment Wednesday and Thursday" --- though she did manage to offer us comment both yesterday and today. FWIW.

FULL STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8474

Read more: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8474

[Dawson Leery]

1. k/r

[sce56]

2. I did not know there was something rotten in Waukesha until recently! Is that the part of the state

I did not know there was something rotten in Waukesha until recently! Is that the part of the state that makes Limburger Cheese?

[cognoscere]

43. No, it smells like that because of all the republicans who live there.

On a related note, maybe we can start a campaign to rename Limburger cheese as Limbaugh cheese.

[idrahaje]

61. whats wrong with limburger cheese

it's not lutifisk :P

but no didn't know something rotten in Waukesha either... doubt it would make a big enough vote bite for Gov Walker's election but it might.

[golfguru]

95. Limburger cheese has the foulest odor you can't even imagine

I recall an office prank when someone put a slice of that cheese in another person's
work drawer.

[freshwest]

Hope this clears the air...

[aquart]

3. Hope she goes to jail.

I keep hoping someone will go to jail.

[djp2]

7. Oh yeah!

That is sure going to be the outcome if there is any real justice!

[lark]

47. Walker will pardon her -

He's such a total Ahole.

[LynneSin]

60. I'm still hoping Katherine Harris and Kenneth Blackwell go to jail...

but I stopped holding my breath and waiting for it to happen.

But then again she's a lowlevel clerk and not a secretary of state so who knows.

[aquart]

92. Katherine and Kenneth sharing a cell. Sigh.

Didn't both of them expect to become big time political figures? Governor, Congressman, President? Weren't they expect a BIG payoff for their loyalty?

[LynneSin]

93. And somewhere, somehow that's what this dimwit from Wisconsin is dreaming of

:eyes:

Harris got her reward but was too stupid and ran for Senator. She could have had a cushy job for years as a representative in a district that was extremely safe.

Blackwell had his chance to run for governor but Ohio seemed to be smart voters back then. Not sure what happened 4 years later

[plumbob]

71. Let me second that!

Somebody really does need to go to jail!

[defendandprotect]

4. Perhaps she will "talk"? And how many "Kathy Nicholaus's" across the nation?

[CrispyQ]

22. That is a question we should all be asking. -nt

[Aerows]

40. Especially if she's guilty

If she is caught, then it's HIGH TIME (and it has been high time, in any case) to review the counting of votes, and even the MSM can't cover it up.

[myrna minx]

63. That's the key question. n/t

[Lifelong Protester]

5. Oh,yeah, there will be some ugly toad at the bottom of this

any squeaker can run a damn adding machine or calculator. It ain't rocket science....

[Zorra]

6. Thanks again, Brad. Always great stuff. nt

[Zambero]

8. Just innocent little old human errors, y'know!

7,000 votes here, 20,000 votes there. I mean, what's the big deal?

:shrug:

[Aerows]

38. no 14,000 votes here, 20,000 votes there

it was just 7,000 in favor of "her" candidate, since she's a rabid anti-abortion activist conservative. She certainly doesn't want a Democrat in the Supreme Court.

[No Elephants]

9. Great work, Brad. Thank you.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

10. This can't be good news for Ms Nickolaus....

...but this woman isn't the only troubling aspect in all this.

We're being asked to believe that after nearly 1.5 million votes cast in this two candidate race, that they were initially separated by a mere 206 votes (less that 14 hundredths of one percent of the total votes cast).

This means that for roughly every 700 votes cast they were evenly split (350 - 350) only to be separated by that next 701st vote. Would it not be an unlikely result in a high school where the students were voting in a two candidate race for their class president, and with 701 total votes cast, to have a 350 to 351 result?

Now think of this unlikely result for the first 701 votes cast, and then the next 701, and the next, and the next, and so on and so on. . . . until this has been repeated over 2000 times, which is what we were initially asked to believe for this race.

The likelihood of this remarkably small margin after nearly 1.5 million votes cast is next to nil, and our unauditable E-voting systems controlled by private corporations, now widely spread throughout the whole country, have, all too often, produced similarly unlikely results.

[Matariki]

72. Those close races seem to be the norm of modern elections -

- and I also find them highly suspect.

[Thor_MN]

87. Fail. You are talking about odds for over 2000 elections, each with 701 votes

and each having the same outcome.

That never happened. There was ONE election. The initial count was very close, there looks like there is some funny business going on, but there were never 2000+ elections with identical outcomes.

A simplified example would be comparing

A. the odds of 2000 families with 5 children, each family having the exact same mix of boys and girls,

vs.

B. the odds that the ratio of boys to girls in the entire 10,000 children is some percentage close to 50-50.


Both A and B are about the same group of kids, A is wildly unlikely and has nothing to do with B.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

91. If you've got a prob/stat background...

...and would like to crunch the numbers for us on the probability of two candidates being separated by less than 14 hundredths of one percent of the votes cast after nearly 1.5 million total votes, feel free -- oh, and please don't forget to show us your work.

[Thor_MN]

96. If one doesn't know the difference between 2000+ fictional trials with identical results

and the election, then there is pretty much zero chance that probability is one's strength.

If you wish to commit to the folly of assigning odds to human behavior, good luck with that. Unless one stipulates that Wisconsin residents are totally random in terms of voting, it is impossible to assign odds of an precise outcome prior to an election.

But as stated, the odds of that exact outcome AFTER the election, are simply 100%. The outcome was what it was.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

101. Seems you've come back empty handed...

...and while that may be slightly disappointing, given your posting history, not the least bit surprising.

[Thor_MN]

102. Empty handed?

Or possibly someone has some reading comprehension issues?

It is impossible to assign odds to human behavior. Already told you you that. Unless you stipulate that all Wisconites are completely random, essentialy voting on a coin flip at the polls, it is utterly impossible to assign odds to an election.

Your ridiculous hypothesis in your first post is the only reason I'm posting. I'll try again to point out the failing. By dividing the election into mini elections and asking what are the odds of those being identical, you raise the (unknowable) odds to the power of the divisions that you make. Say that you can know and the odds are 1 in 10. By asking what are the odds of spliting that group in two and getting the exact same outcome in both, you are now talking 1 in 100.

You split the election over 2000 times and asked what the odds are of having exactly 701 to 700 in each of the over 2000 splits. Whatever the odds are for the entire election, you asked for the odds of that, raised to the over 2000th power... A meaningless number.

Fail.

Get over it.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

103. "It is impossible to assign odds to human behaivior."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I've found, with few exceptions, there's always a handsome entertainment payoff in a drawn out exchange with a DUer like you, and you sure didn't disappoint this time -- thank you for that, Thor.

"It is impossible to assign odds to human behaivior."

Wow. You really said that. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Run that one past the sports bookies in Vegas next time you're out there, I'm sure they'll enjoy a good laugh at your expense.

Two words, Thor:

EPOCH. FAIL. :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:

Now get over it.

[Thor_MN]

104. So you can tell me what the vote totals of say, the next presidental election will be?

Because that is what you were talking about before you attempted to change the goal line. You really think that one can predict the odds of an outcome of an election? Stunning. Maybe we can save all that money because you can just tell us what the outcome will be. Hell, we could even avoid the primaries because you can calculate who the candidates are.

I'm really sorry that you made a such a ridiculous claim such that one should compare 2000+ elections each having the exact same ratio of votes as the Wisconsin Supreme Court to the Wisconsin Supreme Court vote totals. I really am. But that is abject, total failure in comprehension of probability. I called you on it - you don't like it. I get it. Try moving on, no one will remember that you made such an epic mistake in a little while.

Your attempted change in venue further demonstrates that probabilty is a word that you know how to type, but that about the extent of it. Sports books simply adjust the odds of a sporting wager such that they are getting approximately half bets for and half against. They are not calculating or assigning odds to human behavior, they know better. They simply want a balanced mix of bets such that they make money off the juice. If they could predict human behavior they could set the line on every baseball game this summer right now and never adjust them.

I've noticed you haven't spent a lot of time defending or explaining your original assertion. Wonder why? I've also noticed that "entertainment payoff" is a term invoked by bettors to ease the pain of their losses. "I lost an arm and a leg in Vegas, but I had a great entertainment payoff!!"

[Cieran_WI]

11. Follow-up to my original story about the extra 20,000 votes

On DU:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x896324

on Daily Kos

An analysis of Kathy Nickolaus' explanation that the 17k extra votes for AG were simply hand-counted ballots, like write-ins. Share the info, WI needs your help to get this known!

[BradBlog]

12. Thank you, Cieran!

You're doing great work, Cieran. If you've yet to see it, please see my earlier story this evening in which I fill in a few (but not all) of the holes here in advance your and yourguides' work a bit, and in which you are quoted: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8472

Also, in re the thread you just linked to, you asked what changed in 2006. That's the year much of the state moved to new electronic systems in response to the Help America Vote Act miney and mandates and when things got worse, not better, for a LOT of election officials.. Can't go into specific details for the moment, so just lobbing that in your direction for now. Can try to give ya more on that later if you need.

For now, then, thank you! And keep up the great work!

[babydollhead]

20. This is investigative journalism! Thank you! BE the Media!

[murielm99]

48. Thank you Cieran! Thank you Brad!

Maybe there is hope for all this election fraud. It would be nice if we could win a few.

[myrna minx]

64. Thank you! Thanks to Brad too.

:applause:

[democracy1st]

13. K & R

[PuffedMica]

14. Let the light of truth shine into the room

[PuffedMica]

15. K&R

[Hubert Flottz]

16. Someone caught tampering with the voter's will should get the

death penalty.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

19. Well, the charge should be treason, anyway.

[Aerows]

41. I'm not sure what the charge is

but I would hope it's a Federal crime so that Scott Walker can't pardon her, since he's governor of her state.

[glinda]

77. Think you need another Country involved to claim that. Unfortunately.

[cate94]

17. K & R

[Botany]

18. Brad,

Funny isn't it, that every time there has been a voting irregularity in Waukesha County it has
benefited the republicans? Random chance would mean that if the mistakes were just that
then some would help democrats and some would help republicans.

At the very least Nickolaus was lying about the 2011 when she said that the mistake was caused
by her error in not hitting the save key on her computer even though the program she was running
had a default automatic save feature.

[L. Coyote]

32. The Access to Votes software is a new version created to cover-up past false statements like this

:rofl: Funny how an outright LIE gets so little media attention!!

In MS Access, entries are saved as soon as you move to the next entry, all automatically.
Nonetheless and obviously unknowing of this fact, Nickolaus used the excuse that she forgot to hit save!

[BradBlog]

62. To be fair...

"Funny isn't it, that every time there has been a voting irregularity in Waukesha County it has
benefited the republicans? Random chance would mean that if the mistakes were just that
then some would help democrats and some would help republicans."

To be fair here, Waukesha routinely votes VERY Republican (appx. 3 to 1, if their results can be believed in general), so it's not completely a surprise that adjustments to numbers, etc. would end up benefiting Republicans there. If there are an extra 10,000 votes, it makes sense that 7500 of them would be R, and 2500 of them would be D. That, in itself, wouldn't be unusual.

If that makes sense. In other words, I wouldn't expect that they'd find a whole lot of votes that put Ds up in front of Rs in that particular county.

[Botany]

74. Not just the vote totals but just how the mistakes always

seem to have a direction to them and they help the republicans ..... one might see a pattern.

2004 97% turn outs ... I have worked elections for years in Ohio and any precinct that gets
north of a 75% turn out of regular voters is very rare ...... 97% is unheard of except if you want
to count Miami County Ohio 2004 where 15,000 votes were loaded after the machines were turned
off and voting was done for the day (FYI that new vote came in @ exactly the same % down to two points
to the right of the decimal point as the old vote was ... what are the chances) ..... Miami had
one precinct report 99.7% turn out and others @ +95% turn outs.

2006 20,000 more votes than ballots cast

2011 14,000 votes found on Nickolaus' own P.C. and the one thing we can be dead certain about
is that she is lying about having to hit the save key .... hopefully the poll logs can be checked so
as to cross reference each vote but I wouldn't put it past her to have that base already covered.

Yes, you are right that republicans areas will produce heavier repub, vote totals but what I see is
in some very republican areas the vote is controlled by republicans w/ agendas and the "mistakes/
glitches/what have you break way beyond what anybody would expect to see by random error even
if you factor in the voter make up.

[BradBlog]

75. I understand...However...

"2004 97% turn outs ... I have worked elections for years in Ohio and any precinct that gets
north of a 75% turn out of regular voters is very rare ...... 97% is unheard of"

Right, but if you read my article yesterday examining those numbers in specific details, you'll see that there is a possible explanation for that number (Election Day Registration, which they allow in WI, was not included in the "REGISTERED VOTER - TOTAL" line on the report. That explanation has additional evidence to support it, which I won't get into here.)

See my article on all of this please, as it goes into detail: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8472
s.

"2006 20,000 more votes than ballots cast"

Definitely hinky, needing explanation, which is what I investigated in that article (and what the state investigators are also looking into now.)

But, again, that would obviously benefit Rs, just because there are many more of them in that county. In other words, we wouldn't expect that kind of error to EVER benefit Ds in Waukesha.

"2011 14,000 votes found on Nickolaus' own P.C. and the one thing we can be dead certain about
is that she is lying about having to hit the save key"

Her explanation for that does not make sense, as I've now noted on several occasions in my articles on this. Though the numbers themselves do, in that they were independently reported in exactly the same (unverified) totals on election night.

So, again, please see my report yesterday on all of the above: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8472

I hear ya on all of your concerns, of course, as I hope you know. It's why I do what I do. But where things can be independently verified and/or debunked, it's important to do so, before shouting "fraud!" when there could be verifiable explanations for what initially appear to be evidence of malfunction or malfeasance.

Hope that response makes sense. I trust NOBODY in elections. There is no reason to do so (as I explained in my "Special Comment" earlier this week: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8463) But investigating before crying foul is important to real Election Integrity. That's why I have *always* tried to do, and I do so still today.

[kenfrequed]

78. Understandable, but I think the point was more general

Ohio, Florida, New Mexico... read Armed Madhouse and The Best Democracy Money Can Buy for more...

[Botany]

86. thanx brad

yes, your argument makes sense but something about the way the 14,000 votes were found
and the timing of the find still makes me a little uneasy.

My seat of the pants math told me that the 14,000 votes that Nickolaus found on her P.C. is
roughly equal to 20 precincts and Waukesha County has 198 precincts so on the first go round
of vote tabulations to miss 10.1% of all the precincts or the vote from a town w/ a population
of 38,000 seems kind of strange.

I hope some kind of forensic analysis is done on the vote there (Waukesha) and that there is a poll log
book check off (I have a friend in Wisconsin and the poll workers cross you name off and initial
the log book vs signing in as they do in Ohio) and or an absentee ballot / provisional ballot for
each one of the votes cast in that county.

You have to forgive me I am from Columbus, OH and the things I saw and heard w/ my own eyes
in 2004 and @ other times here still wake me in the middle of night with a nagging feeling of why
aren't those people in prison.

I am a big fan of your work and try to read it when I get a chance. I still have saved you masterwork
that pulled Bob Ney, jack abramoff, karl rove, the help america vote act, and susan ralston together
into one neat little package.

thank you for your work!

[supernova]

21. Congrats to Cieran and Brad

:applause: on the great work uncovering these miscreants.

This lady is clearly a GOP stooge.

[Kber]

23. R'uh r'oh!

[drm604]

24. Thank you Cieran

and Brad.

[sasquuatch55]

25. You can always hire an imbecile but don't expect perfection. n/t

n/t

[drm604]

26. The question is whether this was incompetence or electoral fraud.

Although if it was electoral fraud it was incompetent electoral fraud.

[TroglodyteScholar]

45. Please quit feeding the false idea that she is incompetent.

She LOOKS incompetent, and ACTS incompetent...the perfect cover up for fraud.

She WANTs you to think she just fucked up. It's not true. This was every bit as deliberate as my going into the booth and casting a vote for Kloppenburg.

[sasquuatch55]

97. Did I say incompetent? And she got caught. n/t

n/t

[ooglymoogly]

27. Interesting post on Brad blog

check it out....I don't remember the name but her husband worked with K. Nicholaus and said many unflattering things about her, one of which was

"if you asked Kathy if she liked chocolate sundays she would reply with a diatribe on abortions. (paraphrased)

A key piece in the puzzle of the insanity of this woman that fits her crazed look.

It was, a few minutes ago, the second post down.

[liberalla]

30. she reminds me of Linda Tripp

crazily obsessed and dedicated to her GOP gods

[freshwest]

89. That was my first impression, too, but with Palin glasses on...

[valerief]

28. Wouldn't it be nice to see her ass hauled to jail? It'll never happen, because this is the US

and there's no justice here.

[Kingofalldems]

29. K and R for Wisconsin

[L. Coyote]

31. BradBlog domain not loading on my computer!

[blaze]

33. Loaded on mine OK. nt

[L. Coyote]

35. Second reload worked. That was very, very slow and unusual for my rapid connection.

First I got the fail page, so something is going wrong somewhere.

Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: BRADBLOG.COM

Domain servers in listed order:
NS.REALITY-DNS.COM
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You'd think this domain could be on a better server!!
I recommend Network Solutions for their site security,
albeit the pro hackers have taken down my domain multiple times.

[BradBlog]

68. Has been sluggish today...

Sorry - Not sure why the site is so sluggish today. We're getting pretty high traffic, but it shouldn't be as slow at it's been on and off for the last several hours. Looking into it. Thanks for your patience. Just hit RELOAD and see if it works on second try. Has been working for me that way.

[garthranzz]

34. Tick! 2011 - Tick! 2004 - Tick! 2000

The clock of history is clicking toward the truth. The bell will toll.

[L. Coyote]

36. Meanwhile, is anyone investigating the Milwaukee County results?

Why is Milwaukee County such a significant statistical outlier with a greater than 5% red shift?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

37. Something does seem to be up in Milw. County

They will finish their canvass today, for what that's worth, since this is basically a confirmation of votes that were tabulated via ES&S/Diebold software.

[glinda]

79. MN. Should be next in regards to takeover in House and Senate.

[dflprincess]

90. I've wondered about that too

especially as nobody saw it coming and I don't think low turn out explains it. The governor's race was way closer than the polls had showed it would be so I'm just thankful that that race wasn't rigged more effectively.

Though, I can't believe Mark Ritchie would let things slide if he had evidence of something crooked going on.

[glinda]

94. Maybe no one looked. Something stinks bad in MN. besides Bachman and Cravak. MN. is

too trusting. Basically stupid. I was warned by our local Dems last election that there were people at the voting places monitoring that they saw as jokes to which Party they were actually in.

[Aerows]

39. If she's guilty, what happens?

I want to know what happens if they find out she HAS been throwing elections. What do they do with the people that have been in office for years? This could trigger having hundreds of prosecutions by the AG being retried and costing the state billions. If she's guilty, this woman will have wreaked havoc just because of her own personal agenda.

I doubt even Scott Walker being the governor could pardon and save her from that, because that would be a Federal crime, I would assume.

We know she's a rabid anti-abortion activist - that's a favorite place for conservatives to attempt to stack the deck - within the Justice Department. Here we have two instances of exactly that, and a voter turn out of 97.3%? WTF? Countries with mandatory voting don't even go that damn high, much less any county in the US.

[L. Coyote]

46. Wrong. Check the facts (and avoid the not intended to be factual statements trap)

Any rabbits in your not intended to be factual numbers hat? Where do you get this stuff, your imagination?

Wyoming has over 100% turnout under the same system, pre-election registration numbers compared with votes on election day and election day registration at the polls.

You might want to consider if what you say is the least bit factual before you post, or, move to AZ and run for Kyl's seat :rofl:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

65. How did Wyoming get into it?

[L. Coyote]

73. Same system of keeping statistics and election day registrations.

It is sooo easy to just say shit, but one simpler fact can demolish a huge pyramid of BS.

It is easy to have 120% voter turnout if the stat is based on the number of registered voters a month before the election!

[glinda]

80. Same way I am throwing MN. in it....

[loudsue]

42. Bradblog...

:yourock:

[davidwparker]

44. Good. n/t

[Kingofalldems]

49. Internet trumpeters of bad news about Democrats not liking this one

[louslobbs]

50. Perhaps she will once again testify against others to save her ass once they confront her with the

evidence (after the investigation). Her past behavior of being a "Stool Pigeon" is probably still in good standing, after all, a bird like this has an awful lot of corruption under her feathers. Actually, she looks more like a vulture to me. This country needs Election reform, and now!
Lou

[rasputin1952]

51. I avoid predictions in situations like this, but I'll go out on a limb here...

Niclolaus will not go to jail, but this investigation will get larger, she will be forced from office, there will be a court ordered handcount, Prosser will lose...and there will be even more pressure to recall those that are being pushed into the recall alley now. Walker will be ousted in January and the GOP will essentially die in WI (and perhaps in a few other states).

Americans like to believe their elections are a s close to legitimate as possible. We do not take lightly the thought that either party will go to overt means of the manipulation of our votes, in fact, most Americans of either party, or Independent get highly irate when they trudge into the elements to do their duty whay some people in offices, or through software, decide that "some people voted wrong". The Republicans appear to be a party that cannot win without cheating on some level, just as the Democrats were back 80 years ago.

When i drive elderly people to the polls in November, we do not discuss politics, on this day, it is personal, whether they vote D/R/I is their choice. I like many others will do what we can to get people to polling places...what ALL of us want is for the votes to be tallied honestly and whomever the winner is, whether we like it or not, we want to know the effort we put into this to be taken seriously and honestly.

I think that there should be a penalty for vote manipulation, (not error, that can happen), but overt manipulation. If convicted, any official from the AG to the precinct Captain, should face a minimum of loss of voting rights and be imprisoned for 20 years without possibility of parole, when released, they would not be allowed to hold a job that has any connection, overtly or under contract to any municipal, county, state or national entity.

I've worked the polls, it's not an easy job. In Kingman AZ, we were given specific instructions. We set out the "No electioneering" tapes and signs, we kept the lines moving as quickly as we could, we were genial, thanking people for coming out to do their Civic Duty. We were proud we could help and dour part. At one point in the late morning, a small group showed up with a bullhorn and "Vote Reagan" signs, right at he entrance of the polling place. Our instructions were to ask them to move beyond the tape, I did so and was refused. The next line on the instructions had a number to call for just such instances, which I did. I kid you not, within 10 minutes, the AZ Dept of Public Safety showed up, asked me if I had asked the group to leave, to which I answered, "yes". Immediately, cuffs came out, signs and bullhorn were tossed into the trunk of one of the state vehicles and every member of the group was arrested, given their Rights, and placed in vehicles, taken to the Courthouse, and sat out the election in jail, (oddly, none of them had voted before this demonstration). The judge showed no mercy...each were offered a fine of $500 fine if they plead guilty, or a trial, to which the judge added, "if convicted, you will lose your privilege to vote in Mohave County and the State of Arizona for 5 years."

For the record, if a D group had showed up, I would have done the same thing...to me, a person's vote is sacrosanct. I may lose, but I if I do, I want to lose honestly.

[L. Coyote]

56. Predictions

There will be no hand counting, and Prosser will win by 7,000 votes IF there is a recall.

Walker will be recalled and the Dems will control the WI legislature after the recalls. Hopefully, Russ Feingold will be the next governor.

[Moderator]

57. I don't even need my Crystal Ball to see Walker unemployed just after the

year...several R's gone soon...the rest is supposition...:hi:

[glinda]

81. If the voting methods do not change expect no change.

[Uncle Joe]

52. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, BradBlog.:thumbsup:

[INdemo]

53. If it is revealed that she is involved in voter fraud then the Judge could be involved

just by knowing a crime maybe being commited ..The same goes for the Governor Right?

[tiptoe]

67. Election Fraud! (Learn the roots & truth about so-called “voter fraud" -- Time for Change's post)

The GOP Plan to Disenfranchise Millions of Democratic Voters
Time for Change Thu Jul-24-08

Summary and overview

Republicans routinely undertake large scale efforts to disenfranchise poor and minority voters. They do so prior to elections by whining about “voter fraud”, in order to pave the way for restrictive voting requirements and harassment of voter registration organizations, and by targeted purging of voter rolls. And they do so on Election Day through massive ungrounded challenges of minority voter eligibility and a host of other dirty tricks.

It is necessary for them to do those kinds of things. It is often the only way they can win. If not for massive voter disenfranchisement in 2000 and 2004, George W. Bush would today represent nothing but a distant memory to us, we would not be at war, and our standing in the world would be 100% better than it is.

So far in 2008, despite the best efforts of the GOP, new Democratic voter registration is far outpacing Republican voter registration. But that should be no cause for celebration. Democrats, Independents, members of other parties, and even Republicans who value our democracy must remain vigilant of the possibility and likelihood of aggressive and widespread attempts at voter disenfranchisement by Republican operatives, from now until the polls close on November 4th.

And don’t forget EarlG’s request for action to help prevent Republican election fraud.

Even as millions of Americans turn away from the Republican Party, Republicans continue their efforts to disenfranchise millions of Democratic voters. They employ numerous methods to do this, including:
1) Restrictive voting laws;
2) Intimidation of grassroots voter registration organizations;
3) Illegal purging of legally registered voters; and 4) Dirty tricks.

Such efforts were required for George W. Bush to win presidential elections in 2000 and 2004. And as President, Bush has done everything he can to ensure that they continue and expand. Let’s consider some of these efforts:

Restrictive voting laws

Restrictive voting laws decrease voter turnout by making it more difficult for people to vote. They disproportionately disenfranchise minorities, the poor, and Democrats. To rationalize these anti-democratic laws, Republicans have been pushing for several years the myth of “voter fraud” – the idea that voters who impersonate other people and otherwise vote illegally represent a monumental threat to the integrity of our elections.


The roots of the recent Republican “voter fraud” movement

Art Levine discusses these issues in a recent article titled “The Republican War on Voting”:

On Election Day 2000, hundreds or thousands of St. Louis voters were turned away from the polls because their names didn’t appear on the voting rolls. Because of the resulting turmoil, the polls in St. Louis were ordered to stay open for an extra 45 minutes, so as to give more people the opportunity to vote. That was the election where John Ashcroft lost his bid for re-election to the Senate to Mel Carnahan, who had recently died in a plane crash. Republican leaders were outraged over this turn of events, and Missouri’s remaining Republican Senator subsequently made the unsubstantiated charge that dogs and dead people voted in that election. Levine describes what happened then:

What began in Missouri soon went nationwide. Starting in 2003, the Justice Department's civil-rights division issued a flurry of advisory letters, rulings, and lawsuits under the guise of fighting fraud that appear designed to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters.

The truth about so-called “voter fraud”

An analysis of voter fraud in the United States by Lorraine Minnite found it to be “rare and isolated”. Levine puts the “voter fraud” scam in perspective:

Voter fraud is actually less likely to occur than lightning striking a person, according to data compiled by New York University's Brennan Center for Justice… The claim that voter fraud threatens the integrity of American elections is itself a fraud.

Getting back to the 2000 Election Day “outrage” in St. Louis, the GOP decided to make a big deal of it and press charges. Levine explains:

Missouri's then-Secretary of State Matt Blunt launched a trumped-up investigation that concluded that more than 1,000 fraudulent ballots had been cast in an organized scheme. A Justice Department Civil Rights Division investigation, started before Ashcroft shifted the department's priorities, found no fraudulent ballots, however. Instead, it discovered that the St. Louis election board had improperly purged 50,000 voters from the rolls.

Later, in October 2002, Ashcroft as U.S. Attorney General initiated an effort to combat voter fraud – the “Ballot Access and Voting Integrity Initiative”. Yet, though “voter fraud” was declared a high priority, only 24 people were convicted of illegal voting between 2002 and 2005. Not a single person was even charged with impersonating another voter – the claimed rationale for the restrictive voting laws. Fourteen of the 24 convictions were of noncitizens who were apparently confused about election laws.

The effects of restrictive voting laws
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Intimidation of grassroots voter registration organizations
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Purging of legally registered voters

2000-2004

I’ve discussed in detail in a recent post how purging of legally registered voters in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004 enabled George W. Bush to win two presidential elections. To summarize briefly: Greg Palast showed (See pages 6-44) how approximately 92,000 voters, most of them Black (54%) and Democratic (90%), were illegally and purposely disenfranchised for the Florida 2000 election, thereby enabling Bush to win Florida and the general election by 537 votes. A report by Victoria Lovegren described the apparently illegal purging of 165,224 voters from heavily Democratic Cuyahoga County, Ohio, prior to the 2004 election, for no other specified rationale than that they hadn’t voted recently. In “Fooled Again – How the Right Stole the 2004 Election and Why They’ll Steal the Next One Too (Unless We Stop Them)”, Mark Crispin Miller documents how tens or hundreds of thousands of voters were purged from other Ohio counties as well, and how those purges were targeted against Democrats by using voting lists obtained from stolen computers.

2005-2007
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Indiana 2008

The Brad Blog reports that prior to the April 2008 Indiana primary, 1,134,427 voter registrations in Indiana were marked as cancelled.
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Dirty tricks
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Status of voter registration in selected swing states – 2008
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[tiptoe]

69. View/Download a 1-pg, active-links PDF for tabulation of GOP systemic ELECTION fraud, by state. See:

See "1988-2004 MoE exceeded in 66 of 238 state exit polls, 65 favoring "GOP"...in the vote count, state by state.


http://richardcharnin.com/TrueVoteCalcSheet.pdf



Download/ email the one-page PDF / print & handout / tweet links ...inform others.

[BradBlog]

76. You mean ELECTION fraud, not "voter fraud"...

The voters are doing fine. Please leave them alone. It is the election administration you need to worry about.

As to your question, if she (or anybody else) was involved in election fraud and if either Prosser or Walker knew about it, of course they'd be liable in such a conspiracy.

That said, at this time, there is no evidence of such a conspiracy. But the day is young.

[yellerpup]

54. Prosecution should be on the table.

They can't keep getting away with this theft.

[Myrina]

55. Well great but has somebody(ies) wrongly been in office for 5 years because of it?

:shrug: A little quicker woulda been better ...

[Donnachaidh]

58. I want to see her in an orange jumpsuit, handcuffs, and frogwalked to a waiting cop car.

I'm so sick of these vermin doing shit to this country.

[BobbyBoring]

59. My advice to Kathy.......

Stay out of private planes..........:evilgrin:

[Kingofalldems]

66. Kick again before someone tries to change the subject.

[Matariki]

70. I just spontaneously applauded!

At last! Justice! :applause:

[glinda]

82. K & R n/t

[stormpilot]

83. I see a lot of tension in her face.

Me thinks she's dishonest, a classic republiCON.

[Kurovski]

84. KR-NT

[MasonJar]

85. The GOPers goofed. They should have chosen someone smarter and

more articulate.

[midnight]

88. “It’s not that we necessarily expect to find anything criminal. But we want to make sure the public

has confidence in the results,” The GAB seems to have set their sites on no problems to be found...http://getsacc.info/wisconsin-court-race-wont-be-certified-without-probe-reuters.html

[KittyWampus]

100. At this point one wonders if the GAB is politically invested in finding no problem. And I don't mean

because of partisanship necessarily. Sometimes the urge to cover ones own butt is paramount.

[SpiralHawk]

98. It certainly smells like Republicon Family Cesspool Values

as usual...

[iwishiwas]

99. Go back to all the time in which she was in charge.