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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:00 PM
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Ron Paul's son Robert considering a congressional run
Source: The Fort Worth Star-Telegram

First it was just Ron Paul.

An obstetrician-gynecologist and libertarian-leaning Republican from Lake Jackson, Paul was elected to the U.S. House more than 20 years ago and maintains a devout following of those who share his anti-war, anti-tax, limited-government beliefs.

Then he was joined by his son, Rand, a Republican ophthalmologist, who became a darling of the Tea Party movement and was elected last year to represent Kentucky in the U.S. Senate.

Now a third Paul -- Robert, a doctor who runs a family medical practice in Benbrook and lives in Fort Worth -- is mulling a congressional bid of his own.


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/15/2168619/ron-pauls-son-robert-considering.html
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:01 PM
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1. Oh no, not another one!!
Sheesh! How many are there?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:05 PM
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4. Three sons and two daughters:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:01 PM
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2. Invasion of the libertarian lunatics
Swell
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:20 PM
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11. I'd take 100 of them over 100 neo-cons
If a puke absolutely has to win, well it's better than a war-loving Karl Rove type.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:59 PM
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17. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other
Not much difference to me. They both suck.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:55 PM
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20. There's a million points of difference
The Pauls are more anti-Bush and have less in common with him than Obama does.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:14 PM
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21. Their agenda is still wrong for America
I don't care how anti-Bush they are. They're also anti-government tea partiers. :puke:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 03:02 AM
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36. If Libertarians had their way, we wouldn't even have public schools.
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 03:05 AM by No Elephants
Libertarians are Republicons who hate paying taxes even more than do Republicons.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:29 AM
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50. I remember one surreal instance when I used to work at a state university
and the Ron Paul minions in the student body had a big rally in '08. I couldn't say anything, of course, but I did want to ask these in-state students on federal loans what they would do with no Department of Education...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 02:58 AM
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35. +1
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 02:37 AM
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34. I agree,
at least they are:

1. Against military industrial complex
2. Against bank/fed complex
3. Against drug war


Those three things make them a million times better than the neo-cons. Of course, I still wouldn't vote for any of them.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:48 AM
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45. Why take ANY right-wingers?
They all love to make war on the poor and vulnerable!
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 05:43 PM
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57. Infinitely better than the neo-con's.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:39 PM
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13. I don't consider being anti war or opposed to the war on drugs
to be anywhere near lunacy..to me it's simple common sense.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:59 PM
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16. And anti-choice
That's not okay with me.
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Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:30 PM
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23. It's not okay with me either..
but then again, true libertarians, unlike the Pauls, are pro choice...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:14 PM
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24. Not the ones I know
They are rabidly anti-choice. Many are active in the so-called 'pro-life' movement.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:14 PM
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25. I think the true ones think it should be left up to the state
Anti Roe vs. Wade, but not for any federal ban or federal legality.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 03:22 AM
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38. "No true Scotsman" logical fallacy.
"No true Scotsman is an intentional logical fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion. When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim, rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original universal claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 07:25 PM
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28. libertarians are divided on abortion.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 03:24 AM
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39. Relatively united on not having tax money used for abortion, though.
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 03:29 AM by No Elephants
Nor for much of anything.

Strip away all the spin and rationalizations from Libertarians and you get"I hate paying taxes even more than do Republicons."
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 03:18 AM
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37. Plenty of Libertarians besides the Pauls are anti-choice.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:53 AM
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46. What about anti-public services; anti-social safety net; anti-consumer protection
anti-environmental protection; and in the case of the Pauls, anti-choice and anti-gay.

Yes, being anti-war is good. But there are people who are anti-war but far-right in every other way: the BNP; the LePens (another dynasty!); David Duke. They should not be allowed anywhere near power.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:17 PM
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31. agreed
:puke:
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:04 PM
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3. The nut doesn't fall far from the nut tree.
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:07 PM
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5. I'm surprised he lives in Ft Worth
He seems more like a Weatherford kind of guy.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:16 PM
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6. Oh, why not. It seems like now is the time all the wack-
a-doodles are coming out to run for something. The more the merrier.
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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:47 PM
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7. is he going after
a republican or democrat held sit?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:57 PM
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8. The incumbent, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, is a Republican, but not running for reelection
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:58 PM
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9. Unrec---who cares if Ron Paul's son might run?
This site is for Democrats, not republicans. Isn't even LBN.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 03:32 AM
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40. Democrats hate info?
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:19 PM
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10. Nation of morons....and Texas is overflowing with them.
This turd brain stands a good chance, simply because this nation is filled with so many empty headed buffoons walking the streets. God, I'm really sorry we took Texas from Mexico, and we won the damned Civil War. We should have let Mexico keep that worthless piece of land and right now The South would be a third world country, just like Mexico, or worse.
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EvilMonsanto Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:30 PM
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12. I Say Go For It!
Better to have libertarians than NeoCons, I mean seriously
I like Ron Paul's voting record more than a few Dem's

I just hate all these wars, I hate being a part of it by paying taxes

We should all fight to end these wars, let's not bring in partisanship like that

Would you tell a mother or father of an innocent Afghanistani, Yemeni, Iraqi or Pakistani "casualty" that you couldn't vote for the anti-war candidates because of partisanship???
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:59 AM
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47. Would you tell a mother or father of a child who dies of malnutrition or preventable disease
because even the most basic public services and anti-poverty measures are swept away by anti-government right-libertarians, that you couldn't vote for the pro-welfare candidates because of partisanship?

Poverty and denial of public services KILL people!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:41 PM
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14. Another
anti-Social Security, anti-government kook.

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border_town Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:54 PM
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15. Oh how nice
Ron, Rand, and now Rob Paul. What is with all the R names in this family, anyway?
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:22 PM
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18. Does he perform abortions? Let's see just how truly limited-government he is!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:14 PM
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22. Somehow I doubt it.
Just a hunch. LOL
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Nossida Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:41 PM
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19. Christ
Is America to now degenerate to Hereditary Monarchy?
anything but come to your senses America.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:53 AM
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51. By that logic we wouldn't have Kennedy's
But if that would mean no more Bush's will run, I see your point.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:38 PM
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26. His name is Robert Paul-son.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:42 PM
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27. another republican dynasty????Do they brainwash their children
on purpose or by accident. Make them read Ayn Rand at an early age?? Isn't that considered child abuse???
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Youth Uprising Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 07:43 PM
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29. Libertarianism is a stupid, greedy, and selfish ideology
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 08:06 PM by Youth Uprising
that promotes the tyranny of the free-market. They're not anti-war because of ethical reasons, they're anti-war because of financial reasons. They always put profit before people, don't kid yourselves. One silver lining about this whole Wisconsin debacle is that it has helped expose the Randian Regressive Libertarians for what they really are.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 03:57 AM
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41. +1
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 07:57 PM
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30. Hypothetically if you had a country to run, who would really trust?
So would it be Greenspan, Bernanke, Summers, Volcker, Paulson, Geithner, or Paul?

Watch "Inside Job" and then answer. I will always trust a history of integrity and consistency first long before those that will scam us at the drop of a hat. Ideology is never my first consideration. Honesty is first.

http://www.sonyclassics.com/insidejob/
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:12 PM
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33. "Honesty is first. "
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 11:53 PM by ProSense
From Rand Paul's budget:

War funding from 2001 to 2010 has cost the taxpayer $1.109 trillion. That amount doesn’t include the $159
billion that will likely be spent funding the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq for FY2011. The proposal seeks to
reduce war funding for FY2011 by $16 billion, in other words to provide $144 billion (President Obama has
requested $117 billion for FY2012, $27 billion dollars below our proposed level).


Do you honestly believe that Paul is anti-war? He's anti-government, anti-military, not anti-war. The Pauls would support pirates and mercenaries if given free rein.

Paleomonetarism

"When the choice is between extreme and mild conservatives, progressives don’t stand a chance."
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 04:12 AM
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42. He's anti paying taxes. That is as deep as it gets.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:46 AM
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44. None of them.
But possibly Paul (any of them) least of all, as the Pauls are EXPLICITLY opposed to any social safety net, or government contribution to public services. The others just don't/didn't care so long as the rich don't have to pay too many taxes. The Pauls would actively seek to destroy all safety nets for the poor and vulnerable.

But I would choose left-wingers over ANY of the people that you mention.

'Ideology is never my first consideration. Honesty is first.'

What if someone *honestly* wishes to kill you? Hitler was honest and consistent; so are many extremists nowadays; so were the laissez-faire capitalists of the 19th century, a time to which the Pauls would like to return - and a time when poor people often starved to death, or worked long hours from childhood onwards, without any regulation of their conditions. Honesty in pursuit of a cruel ideology is not something to be admired!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 09:20 PM
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32. having one Paul around was kind of fun in that in 2008 he highlighted a GOP ideological divide
Having two Pauls around, though, was unnecessary overkill (especially once he actually got elected), and having three is way too many.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 09:36 AM
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43. To quote Shakespeare...
What! will the line stretch out to the crack of doom?

(Macbeth, Act 4)
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:28 AM
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48. A Family Of Libertarians---All Hooking Up With Government Jobs.

Just like Ayn Rand intended, right?
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 11:23 AM
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49. Wow...For a family who claims to hate government so much
Edited on Sat Apr-16-11 11:30 AM by Blue_Tires
They have come to depend on it for their own survival, like moths to a flame...

They are starting to inch toward Palinesque levels of hypocrisy...
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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 08:54 AM
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52. do you know theres a difference btw big govt
and small govt? I dont think the Paul have ever said that they were anti govt. And even if they were anti govt, sometime you have to join what you hate to defeat it (e.g undercover cops). Also do you really think a Medical doctor and an eye doctor needs govt for their survival? I understand not liking a politician, but making things up because you hate them is just silly
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 08:59 AM
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53. A doctor doesn't need government for their survival...
But a patient might!!!

At any rate the point here was that the Pauls all want to be part of government by being senators/representatives.

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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 11:32 AM
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54. True on 1st sentence
I say this all the time, but for us to be successful against the thinking part of the right wing, we have to understand them. Think of it as a parent who is anti school board, he has strong disagreement with the idea of it, the size of it, power it exerts, the decision they make that negatively affect his children. He has too much invested in the school district to move so instead of just abandoning everything, he run for school board in order to achieve this goal. In this case just like running for election in the US govt, he is not being hypocritical, now he would be hypocritical if he supports/votes for policies that would increase the size and power of the govt.

know thy enemy.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 03:54 PM
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56. I'm saying the Paul boys are in this for personal enrichment
And yes; getting fat on the gravy train of being an elected official while pandering to the big government haters is hypocritical...

The Pauls pimp words like "freedom" and "personal liberty", but they would just as soon swap a governmental overlord for a corporate one in a heartbeat...Never forget who is bankrolling them...
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-11 03:06 PM
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55.  We have two Paul nuts
in Washington,three is too many.
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