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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:55 PM
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Vote canvassing results show Prosser won Supreme Court race
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 02:56 PM by eowyn_of_rohan
Source: Wisconsin State Journal

Results from Wisconsin counties show a conservative state Supreme Court justice has won re-election in a race seen as a referendum on Republican Gov. Scott Walker's divisive union rights law.

County tallies show Justice David Prosser defeated JoAnne Kloppenburg by 7,316 votes out of nearly 1.5 million votes cast.

State election officials must review those numbers before declaring an official winner. They say they won't start that process until Kloppenburg has a chance to request a recount. She has until Wednesday.



Read more: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/article_bdd2d89c-6797-11e0-861d-001cc4c002e0.html



Milwaukee Co. finishes canvass of Supreme Court race. Justice Prosser nets 11 votes, putting his overall lead at 7316.

Now let's see those numbers again, Milwaukee...
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:57 PM
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1. How can we convince her to ask for a full hand recount of every
vote? Ms Waukesha didn't jigger with the numbers for no reason.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:12 PM
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3. She could easily raise the money for the recount from people like us! nt
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 01:55 PM
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45. She has many things to consider
Will she ever run for Supreme Court again? Asking for a recount "at taxpayer expense" hoping to make up more than 7,000 votes would show up in TV ads. The next Supreme Court election is in 2013 against one of the conservatives, and after that two of the liberals, assuming no vacancies (filled by the governor until the following spring election). On the other hand, if significant election fraud is found on recount, she could join the court this year. What are the chances of fraud showing up? How would the recount be done, machine or by hand? Which counties are more likely to have fraud, and by what means? I don't think Waukesha County is one of them. The Brookfield votes were easily found, and Republicans are too clever to create a drama over Waukesha if there were any votes being stolen there.

Aside from all that, this would be a golden opportunity to test whether our election machinery counts the voters' intended votes correctly.
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libmom74 Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:08 PM
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2. I'm feeling very skeptical.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:24 PM
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4. self delete
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 03:55 PM by eowyn_of_rohan

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clayton72 Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:37 PM
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5. I donated!
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:45 PM
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6. That outcome will be met
with the same degree of trust that met the Florida 2000 outcome. It has a familiar stench.


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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:48 PM
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7. I will never believe
he won fairly without a hand recount. This one smells to high Heaven.
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PuffedMica Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:16 PM
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9. I'll never believe Kloppenburg lost, even with a hand recount.
When Republicans win close elections, it always smells.

It smelled in 2000.

It smelled in 2004.

It smells now.

Republicans cheat, and they will continue to do so until they are put in jail for it.

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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 03:59 PM
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8. Looks now like the STATE pays for her recount
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 04:10 PM by eowyn_of_rohan
The state would pay for it because the margin between the candidates is less than a half of a percent of the total 1,497,330 votes cast.

The thugs figured this one out to a T. They can give her all kinds of flak now if she asks for a recount...

I hope she does not let this deter her...
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:03 PM
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10. Any chance any of those will be hand counts or hand-counted audits?
I doubt it. But, I'd like to see Milwaukee get some close scrutiny regarding their unusual red shift.

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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 01:24 PM
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44. This about Barrett
He is a popular mayor of Milwaukee, and was the congressman for half of Milwaukee County before that. He got 74% in the city of Milwaukee. In Milwaukee County he got 62%, the new county executive got only 60% against Walker's clone, while Kloppenburg got 56.5%. It would be tough for anyone to do appreciably better than Barrett in Milwaukee County.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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11. Wait, wasn't the conspiracy theory...
...that the Republicans "found" enough votes to make sure she DID have to pay for a recount?

The Wisconsin Government Accountability Board is not a bunch of stooges. They checked the numbers for days in Waukesha and concluded nothing criminal occurred and the count was accurate. I am hoping for a recount too, but mostly because I am all for recounts pretty much anytime a candidate wants one. The more election officials know their efforts will be checked and double checked, the better. The unfortunate truth is, Kloppenburg appears to have lost by a large enough margin that a recount won't help her.

The lesson here is, even with so much momentum and energy on our side, the opposition is very well funded and will fight hard. We will need to redouble our efforts for the upcoming recalls as it is pretty clear the teabaggers will turn out to vote.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:36 PM
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37. lol - people look at it both ways
I always thought this would be even more wicked than making her pay for it. Imagine how they will blow this out - "wasting taxpayer money" with "little evidence that a recount will turn up enough votes for her to win"...
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:47 PM
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38. Yes, the more I think about it the more I agree with you...
However, honestly, I don't think the public is going to object to Kloppenburg asking for a recount. Considering how close this was and how the final total came to be with Brookfields votes being added in after it appeared Prosser may have lost... Well, I just don't think arguments that claim Kloppenburg is wasting tax payer money will meet with much public sympathy.

Still, you raise a pretty good point - the teabaggers may indeed be thinking about it that way.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:50 PM
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39. I think the vocal majority in this state will be ADAMANT about wanting a recount
Tomorrow's rally is going to be nuts, with Palin there and the bused in teabaggers, countered by however many of "us" show up... it is scarily exciting.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:59 PM
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40. No I think the conspiracy is that Waukesha was investigated...
and the audit suggested there needed to be changes to safe guard the accuracy in the event a problem arose.... Now here is the conspiracy theory..... The former Prosser assistant would not change a thing.... She laughed at at suggestions to do such a thing....
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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12. David Prosser Projected Winner, JoAnne Kloppenburg Defeated In Wisconsin Supreme Court Election
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 03:54 PM by cal04
Source: Huffington Post

A conservative justice has weathered attempts to link him to Wisconsin's governor and a divisive union rights law and won re-election, according to county vote totals finalized Friday.

Tallies from each of the state's 72 counties show Justice David Prosser defeated challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg by 7,316 votes. State election officials said they will wait to declare an official winner until the deadline for Kloppenburg to seek a recount passes. She has until Wednesday to call for one.

If she does, the state would pay for it because the margin between the candidates is less than a half of a percent of the total 1,497,330 votes cast.

Neither campaign had any immediate comment.



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/15/david-prosser-joanne-kloppenburg_n_849863.html



Wis. court challenger weighing recount
Wisconsin Supreme Court hopeful JoAnne Kloppenburg says her campaign is weighing whether to seek a recount.
http://www.wxow.com/Global/story.asp?S=14456060
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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13. Such a miracle
Good thing Prosser's ex-employee discovered all those votes.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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14. Her ex-boss probably will call her to thank her personally.
For finding those missing votes...what a trooper.
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Iliyah Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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16. Re-Count!
Don't trust the gopers. This happen in 2000 and 2004 and probably countless others that we don't know about. There is a bad smell in the air when it comes to this. RE-COUNT.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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18. I have no doubt that now that it is official there will be a recount.
They had to wait and now can take action. Everyone should want a re-count, it is the right thing to do now.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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25. I agree...
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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21. I don't care what they say that was a rigged election...we know she
is a crook and that's all we have too know that she should not be trusted...she has done it before and she really know how to hide it...they were to cock sure when they recounted it come out all right...AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS DONE..
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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15. Again, I bet there are a lot of people who wanted Kloppenburg to win that wished they had voted.
I know the big spin about the election is that is was such a great turnout (for a spring election) even though statewide only 33% of the people voted and that 33% sure was about evenly split. One might have believed that Democrats would have been far more motivated to get out and vote than Republicans. Every single vote mattered and a vote for Kloppenburg in Waukesha meant as much as one from Dane county.

Then the other spin is that Kloppenburg was never really expected to win anyways. Yeah, that's sure comforting. Close don't count except in horseshoes, hand grenades, and drive-in movies (for those of us who still remember what they are). If you didn't win that means you lost.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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17. Looks like the County Clerk's vote got counted - about 7000 times
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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19. Hard To Believe
and if it's true, does that mean the recalls in WI are doomed too?

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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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22. Huh?
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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20. Not until Kloppenburg concedes
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 04:30 PM by golfguru
Recount now! And let the state of Wisconsin pay for it since
they screwed up the vote count.
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think Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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23. I guess it's legal to pull votes out of your ass
if you're a Republican....
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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24. Since 2000, at least.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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26. At best, there was gross incompetency in the vote counting
At worst, outright fraud. A recount would be good, even if just to restore a bit of faith in the electoral process.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:06 PM
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27. If there's a recount before
an investigation of electoral fraud is undertaken, Kloppenburg will lose. The Democrats should be making a national fight over this and refusing to accept the results of the election or the legitimacy of Prosser's victory. Have Democratic voters yet to realize that the status-quo exists to fuck them over while maintaining their status as the loyal opposition?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:07 PM
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28. Vote canvassing results show Prosser won Supreme Court race
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:07 PM
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29. Prosser 'Wins' WI Supreme Court Election by 7,316 Over Kloppenburg, According to Unverified Canvass
Source: BRAD BLOG



Prosser 'Wins' WI Supreme Court Election by 7,316 Over Kloppenburg, According to Unverified Canvass
Computer results of paper ballots remain unverified by humans...

Milwaukee County has finally turned in their official canvass of last week's Supreme Court election in Wisconsin, giving the almost entirely unverified results of the largely paper-ballot election to Justice David Prosser over Asst. Attorney General JoAnne Kloppenburg by 7,316 votes...

FULL STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8475

Read more: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8475
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:07 PM
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30. Vote canvassing results show Prosser won Supreme Court race
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:07 PM
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31. there are 3 posts in LBN on this topic
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 05:29 PM by eowyn_of_rohan
and mine was first :shrug:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:22 PM
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35. Thanks for being on top of this issue from day one
long before others realized there was a story in all this.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:26 PM
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36. wow, thanks
I want revenge for 2000 and 2004...and vowed then to FIGHT if it EVER happened here
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:09 PM
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32. Election fraud.
Just like in Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004.
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:09 PM
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33. I wonder if those extra votes would have mysteriously appeared if it meant a win for Kloppenburg?
Just wondering.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 02:26 PM
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46. from what i've read here from people who follow the process
the answer is yes, the fact that no votes were recorded for Brookfield would have been caught no matter what
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 05:11 PM
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34. Election fraud.
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DumpDavisHogg Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:57 PM
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41. Time for a GENERAL STRIKE
If Prosser is finalized as the winner, then it's time for a GENERAL STRIKE. That's all there is to it.
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Leonardo Da Biker Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 03:43 AM
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42. WTF!!!
This time around we had a bigger voter turnout than we have in years, 33%.
This was thought to be a good thing, a wave of humanity rising up, surely we will win.
Think about that. 33% turnout still means that 2/3 of us couldn't be bothered to get off our backsides and vote.
We have got to do better, people!
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 10:45 AM
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43. There's an easy way to tell if the repukes cheated. They won.
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