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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 09:55 AM
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Apple Is Tech's 'Least Clean' Company: Greenpeace
Source: Huffington Post

04/21/11 09:35 AM ET

Moving to the cloud could be making acid rain.

While U.S. companies are not required to disclose energy information, such as carbon emissions, a report by Greenpeace revealed the high cost of the data centers tech companies rely upon to deliver their services. Apple was the least green of all, with its data centers at 54.5 percent reliance on coal, followed by Facebook at 53.2 percent and IBM with 51.6 percent. Yahoo, Google and Amazon were highlighted for their clean energy use.

As cloud computing becomes more widely adopted, companies will need to support a rising number of data centers in order to process and store the information that's generated. While Greenpeace was able to produce its report based on publicly accessible data, tech companies also display major problems with transparency regarding their energy practices, the report showed. Despite Google and Amazon's clean energy commitments, both scored an F for transparency.

As the report notes, the expansion of the Internet will require a growing amount of energy to continue. But a tendency towards secrecy across the IT industry prevents it from being possible to fully gauge the extent of IT's potential effect on the worldwide energy picture. According to Greenpeace, data centers may be consuming energy at a rate 70 percent higher than predicted, with the combined electricity demand of the web estimated to reach a figure greater than the combined total demands of France, Germany, Canada and Brazil combined.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/21/apple-green-ranking-greenpeace_n_851939.html
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:02 AM
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1. And today's BS title award goes to Amy Lee
Apple's data centers are least clean = "Apple is Tech's 'Least Green' Company".

Got it. :eyes:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:19 AM
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3. Have you taken into account how much damage production of the iShit creates
Lead, Mercury, Sulfides, Hydrochloric Acid - all are dumped into local rivers when the iShit is made (that is iPods, iTouch and iPads)

Oh - it's not Apple Corporation that's doing the pollution! It's those nasty contractors.

Well if they made those things in the US with a Union Workforce and enforced EPA standards, that wouldn't be a problem

Hell, they used to make EVERYTHING in the US. Elk Grove, CA for one such site. Totally clean, totally environmentally friendly. Re-used all water from production even, rather than dumping into the Sac River.

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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:44 AM
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9. Conflict metals.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:15 AM
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10. Just so I'm clear on this...
Which, if any, of the current "iShit" products
have *ANY* lead, mercury, or cadmium in them?

Are you familiar with a little detail of modern
electronic product development called "RoHS"
(pronounced "Rohas")?

Tesha
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:38 AM
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13. Are you aware of how much information is now distributed digitally
instead of chopping down trees - thanks (in large part) to the iPad?

How many less miles are driven because of products which make working at home feasible?

How many millions of CDs are not being produced, and the resultant waste not being "dumped into rivers" because of the iPod?

Perspective matters.

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:18 AM
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2. Wow... there seems to be a hit out for Apple
lot's of negative news stories about the company.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:21 AM
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4. Are you aware of how much junk is dumped due to iPod production?
China - and they just dump EVERYTHING in the rivers

Oh, but that's not Apple you say - that's a contractor. Apple can't be held liable for what every contractor does. Well, yes they can - and they can move production back to the US (Did you know up until very recently, Apple's production was almost entirely US based?)
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:26 AM
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6. That is ALL Consumer Electronics These Days
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:27 AM
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7. Yes it is
But that doesn't make them any more green
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:31 AM
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11. I don't, but I don't think you do either.
Can you give me some numbers? I didn't think so.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:38 AM
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8. Just because their competitors are leaking this shit doesn't mean it's not true. nt
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 11:33 AM
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12. And all of them true.
Apple's fanboys have had a BAD week.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 10:26 AM
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5. Apple Crushes Earnings Again, With 95 Percent Profit Growth
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-11 12:08 PM
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14. Meanwhile
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