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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 05:49 PM Original message |
Dearborn jury: Terry Jones rally would breach the peace |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. What does this mean? nt |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. it means he can't have his protest in Dearborn |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Creepy. I am very uncomfortable with the US government telling people they can't protest. |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. The guy has come into town armed |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I live in Montana, I don't own guns, but I am surrounded by them. |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Well then come to Detroit |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. Violent people existed before the invention of firearms. |
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66 dmhlt (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. Fred Phelps + Barney Fife = Terry Jones |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Wrong on two counts |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
57. When I use the phrase, "US government," I am referring to the three levels of government; |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Agreed. n/t |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:36 AM Response to Reply #15 |
67. You're okay with riotous mobs setting limits on free speech? /nt |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. There are very good reasons why they... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
58. Those are all legitimate concerns, but they not even close to one's right to free protest. |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. He alone would have had the right to protest... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Do you have evidence he is trying to create a violent incident? |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. You act as if there are no limits to reasonable protest... |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Define "completely ignored." I believe I addressed your concerns. |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:04 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. "Xenophobic" |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I understand the outsider comment pails in comparison to Terry Jones' behavior, |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:39 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. The imagined mob ruled the day |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. He will almost certainly be able to get this overturned on appeal |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Inapposite |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Prior restraint of speech |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 02:42 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Time, place and manner |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
70. Agreed |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. No. It means he must post a bond to cover anticipated expenses |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. and I read that he refused to post bond. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Yeah, so? |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. didn't say there was. I said- it means he's not having his protest |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
69. BS. His 1st amendment rights have been trashed by fear of mobs /nt |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. Please update when available. I'm torn on this one. |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. peace bond now - live streaming ... |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. ONE dollar each |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. They refuse to post it. Off to jail they go. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. We know that the hate monger carries a gun. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
12. We have let neo-nazis march in areas predominately settled by holocaust survivors |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. A right to incite a riot? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. If they riot due to his speech then they are to blame |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. It had a lot more to do than just potential rioting... |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. In his defense..... |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
42. If my Marine son |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Yes. And the KKK and the Nazis post bonds when required |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Charging people for the right to speak in public strikes me as un-american |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. That's why we have courts |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 09:52 AM Response to Reply #29 |
54. So if you have a day in court that means justice has prevailed? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #54 |
63. If you are looking for justice, I regret to inform you... |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 06:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
62. Agreed. Violent mobs don't get to set limits on free speech /nt |
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Purveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
14. Judge Jails Pastor Terry Jones For Refusing To Pay $1 Bond |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. They indicated they would still go to the mosque - ON THE RECORD |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Correct, that is clear contempt |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
24. Didn't he want them to protest with Weapons on hand? |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
26. The prosecutor's last name is missing an extra O. |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 10:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. He was going to be on the sidewalk |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. There are no public sidewalks along Altar Street. |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I don't know the MI law |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 01:35 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. The grassy space on the north side of Ford Road is govt owned. |
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hardcover (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
28. My question is, if the courts can stop Jones from prosting mosques, |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Because Phelps complies with all relevant permit regulations |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
33. MSNBC reporting bond has been paid. They're out of jail. |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
34. ...as much as I hate this bastard. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Agreed. n/t |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 10:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. The place he wanted to protest was inconvenient |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Yes, but |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:50 AM Response to Reply #44 |
71. Yes, it is extremely unconstitutional |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. They do, but... |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. I don't think it is any coincidence that he is in MI. Seriously, someone should look into who funded |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 12:14 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. That would be very interesting information to know. |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-22-11 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
39. Michigan ACLU is supporting Jones |
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rapmanej (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
51. why is this a bad thing? |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 06:12 AM Response to Original message |
53. Freep.com & Robert Moran? |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
55. As abhorrent as this POS is, I am against government prior restraint and censorship |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-23-11 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
59. I think this is equalivent to burning a cross on somebodies yard...to |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
73. Finally the standard of "yelling FIRE in a crowded theatre" has been |
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