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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 07:34 PM Original message |
WikiLeaks: Guantanamo Bay Secrets Revealed (1,000s of Pages From Ten Years) |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. Why isn't it closed now? |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. O is controversy-averse. The GOP may call him names. nt |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. I am of the belief he has not |
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marasinghe (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
42. then - i guess, "doing the right thing" has fallen below "political expediency", |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #42 |
94. That's been happening since day one, |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
124. Has it been any other way this current century? |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Don't lose "hope" okay? |
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BetsysGhost (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
96. interesting quote there |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Ban on U.S. trials for Guantanamo prisoners passes House again-Politico 12/17/10 |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. There's a thought |
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orangeapple (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. one thing to keep in mind |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. How many of those WERE innocent, but became terrorists |
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orangeapple (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I don't know, you don't know |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #34 |
44. On what basis do you continue to imprison an innocent person? |
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orangeapple (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
79. POWs can be held for the duration of the conflict |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #79 |
85. These people weren't even combatants. |
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orangeapple (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #85 |
97. What do you do about the ones who are AQ? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. You try them and take the consequences |
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orangeapple (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. try them for what? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. If they can't be charged with a crime, they have to be released. |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #101 |
118. Do you realize that you're using the same excuse that the MIC |
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orangeapple (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Hey, I was against that stupid war too! |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. Oh yes, "I was against XXX before I was for XXX" argument. |
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orangeapple (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. I'm not John Kerry |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. Thanks for proving my point. |
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orangeapple (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. why are you ducking the question? |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Ask a question and you will get an answer |
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orangeapple (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. here's my question |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #119 |
128. First of all... |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #101 |
130. That's bullshit because they HAVEN'T RECEIVED POW STATUS or PROTECTION UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
133. Then you hold public trials so the people know |
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plumbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. So TRY them. If guilty, imprison them, legally. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
62. Well, what a surprise. |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
111. Yes it has, hasn't it? From the time Rummy was comparing |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
63. Dupe |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
64. BBC: Of 779 detainees at Guantanamo, all but 220 were innocent or low-level guerrillas | |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #64 |
132. I didn't have the numbers handy in my post above, Hissy, .. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #26 |
80. HELLO! "according to a new intelligence assessment released by the Director of National Intelligence |
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Oak2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #26 |
95. Is that real terrorism, or speaking out against US policies? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
120. Jesus, the naivete in this post defies description and is maddening |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. He had plenty of time to act before that. |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. The problem is |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I'm sure it's Obama's opinion. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. I voted for Obama to see it closed |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
49. Because the rulers do not know how to govern without using torture. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #49 |
89. W/Cheney/Rumsfeld needed the farce of all this to keep myth of 9/11 going ... |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
70. Why isn't it closed now? |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. So.... |
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't know about this |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
81. There is just no way to paint a happy face on this story, but they sure did their best |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. WaPo Link: |
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cal04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. wikileaks: The Guantanamo Files |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. New York Times Link "Timeline of Gitmo Detainees," More |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
9. wikileaks: If you read Wikileaks' 'Gitmo Files' please do so with extra caution. 'Confessions' made |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
10. These things |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
11. McClatchy gets headline right: "WikiLeaks: Secret Guantanamo files show U.S. disarray" |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
12. Delete - Duplicate |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. Guardian: What are the Guantánamo Bay files? Understanding the prisoner dossiers |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
104. "al-Qaida, the Taliban or other terror groups" |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
14. Guardian gets headline right: "Guantánamo Bay files: Caught in the wrong place at the wrong time" |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. WikLeaks: "This detainee was tortured in 3 different countries, held in CIA site but US gov file... |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. WikiLeaks: "Australia: Guantanamo file for David Hicks released" |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
41. . |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:47 AM Response to Reply #16 |
51. Failure to prosecute is also illegal. |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
19. Does anyone remember when Rumsfeld called them "the worst of the worst"?.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Do you remember the minute by minute media coverage |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Not just him. Rumsfeld: Hides War Crimes - Free. WikiLeaker: Reveals War Crimes - |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
25. "imprisoning more than 150 totally innocent people" = WAR CRIMES! |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
28. This is a fascinating release. |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
29. Raw Story: 7 Shocking Gitmo Revelations |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. All this money all the lies the torture was just a total farce |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #32 |
91. I think most people believed it was a total farce from the beginning. |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Reenacting 9/11 with origami art? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
47. Obviously, we TORTURED these people because we had no evidende against them ... |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-24-11 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
33. And just yesterday I wondered what our leaders had done to shut |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
35. BBC: "Wikileaks: Many at Guantanamo 'not dangerous'" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Seton Hall has been on this for years. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
37. You have to ask yourself: What is it the pugs and neocons are so very, very afraid of, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. It's long past time when we can blame Republicans. |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:17 AM Response to Reply #37 |
58. Exactly what I've been thinking for some time. All that their secrecy does |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
103. +1 |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
100. their own crimes being exposed |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
40. don't worry! Obama will close it ANY DAY now. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
45. K&R |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
46. Evidently, we pulled in something like 140,000 + people ... many were basically "bought" -- |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:52 AM Response to Reply #46 |
57. And many were saying this would happen even before the war start, and certainly while it was |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
48. K&R. nt |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:45 AM Response to Original message |
50. Wikileaks is essential to real national security, IMHO. |
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NuclearDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:47 AM Response to Original message |
52. A bunch of low-level foot soldiers? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #52 |
72. It's worse than that. Most of these people had nothing to do |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #72 |
86. Exactly, in the class of herding goats in the wrong place at the wrong time, then maybe |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:26 AM Response to Original message |
53. Wikileaks: Many at Guantanamo 'not dangerous' |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:26 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. k/r |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:27 AM Response to Original message |
55. WikiLeaks discloses new details on whereabouts of al-Qaeda leaders on 9/11 |
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Scottybeamer70 (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:27 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. ah......"informants" |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:35 AM Response to Original message |
59. 'US knew Guantanamo detainees were innocent' |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
60. Glenn Geenwald: If Bradley Manning did what's accused, he imposed more transparency on the world's |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
61. Glenn Greenwald: WikiLeaks has generated more newsworthy scoops over the last year than all media ou |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
65. I wish I could recommend this thread over and over again. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
66. K & R |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
67. K & R |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
68. K & R |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
69. We have always been at war with Eastasia. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
71. Another kick! |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
73. Does anyone have any idea why the US did this? |
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azul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Maybe the MIC was running out of enemies and was afraid of being defunded? |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. They did it to provide visible evidence to the sheep that there was a real reason to feel fear. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #75 |
93. del. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. BushCo cronies made brazillions off of the War on Terra. |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #73 |
77. All of the above. Plus, they did it because they could. |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #77 |
82. And got away with it scot-free. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Rumsfeld and Cheney are sadists. |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #87 |
105. I'm sure they also viewed it as "opportunity" to experiment |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Marketing. Doing it made it clear to the enemy and the sheeple that the U.S. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #73 |
98. Locked people in Gitmo? |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #98 |
108. "Geneva rules didn't have this kind of conflict in mind" |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. OK, what do you do with captured combatants... |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Maybe you should ask that question to the framers of the US constitution |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. If you're going to excoriate people, I think you need to come up with a better idea |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. It is not about "what I would do with them" but what the US government can't do |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. You can hold POWs until the hostilities cease |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. You need to declare a war first before you can detain people as POWs |
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orangeapple (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 05:40 PM Response to Reply #117 |
127. How does Geneva Convention |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #127 |
131. Gee wiz... everything must be so fuzzy with such lack of reading and comprehension. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #131 |
134. The detainees aren't accused of "crimes" |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
107. Trial balloon. |
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JEB (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
78. Sounds like the perfect place |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
83. CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION NOW!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Pelosi did squat about Sami al Haj or anything else related to Gitmo. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
88. K/R |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
92. On the one hand, it's about time this had light shed on it, |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
106. I remember when the first prisoners were released after several months |
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Corruption Winz (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
109. This is such a tough thing ot handle.... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. Yep. Too bad Congress prevented them from being tried in civilian courts |
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raouldukelives (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-25-11 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
121. K&R |
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