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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:26 PM
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Wis. GOPers Could Dodge Court Challenge, Pass Anti-Union Law Again
Source: Talking Points Memo

The saga of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's (R) anti-public employee union legislation is far from over. With the law now blocked and tied up in the courts on procedural grounds, Republicans are publicly mulling the simple step of passing it again.

The Capital Times reports:

Andrew Welhouse, a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, R-Juneau, said Thursday that while the "preferred avenue" for implementing the collective bargaining bill is still the state courts, there is a "possibility" the bill will be inserted into the 2011-2013 state budget.

"There is a possibility, and it has been informally discussed among Republican leadership, including the Joint Finance Committee co-chairs, that if the matter can't be fully decided on by the Supreme Court, then it will be inserted into the full budget," Welhouse told The Capital Times.

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/wis-gopers-could-dodge-court-challenge-pass-anti-union-law-again.php?ref=fpa
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:30 PM
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1. That's because the law is only for traffic court.....
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:30 PM
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2. Can a law like this be repealed or over turned when we
get rid of these people?
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:47 PM
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3. Yes. No legislature can bind a future legislature.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 06:47 PM by former9thward
The problem is that a repeal could be vetoed by Walker. I know there may be a recall attempted on Walker but from the numbers I have seen indicate that is no sure thing.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:52 PM
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4. No, it's no sure thing. And just think, Democrats could have stopped this all last fall
if they had bothered to get out and vote like the Republicans did. Walker got 90% of the vote total that McCain received but his opponent, Bartlett, only received 60% of the votes that went to Obama.

Governments are formed, laws and policies are made as a result of those who choose to participate in the system, not by those who choose to stay at home.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:03 PM
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5. What numbers are you talking about...are you telling me that your
state after all this shit he has done would still vote for him...
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:13 PM
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6. WI is a purple state.
At least it was before all the Walker nonsense. It could be that way still. There are some very hardcore repubbies there.

There are also some Wisconsinites who have made it clear that they are republican no more.

No election is ever a sure thing. The kochroaches and their friends will throw lots of money at any attempt to unseat Walker. And they could always steal it. Would you put it past them?
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:15 PM
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7. I should add to what I said.
I have noticed here, among the trolls, and in other places, a new repubblie talking point. They keep emphasizing that it is a long time before any recall, and the people of Wisconsin will have forgotten all about this little upset by the time Scottie's recall rolls around. I don't believe it.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:50 PM
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8. If that were to happen, and I don't believe it will, then those who let it happen will have the gov
that the deserve. How can anyone forget, one man, trying to destroy their lives? Wisconsinites will do what is necessary and run walkers ass out of town on a rail, of this I am certain. Go Wisconsin brothers and sisters, love you guys and gals
Lou
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:54 PM
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9. "people of Wisconsin will have forgotten all about this little upset"
To be fair that does seem to happen and not just in Wisconsin but rather to humans in general, we do seem to have memory problems which could explain partly some things like how Bush managed to win a 2nd term even after the WMD claims that Iraq had were found to be false.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 07:05 PM
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10. "there is a "possibility" the bill...
...will be inserted into the 2011-2013 state budget."

Ummm... am I missing something or mixing this up with some other state funding process - but wasn't the fact that it WAS originally a part of the budget bill and thus required a quorum of Senators to even vote on it, explains why we are at this point in time (because they didn't have the required quorum)? Thus when the Dems fled the state, they couldn't proceed with the budgetary legislation? So then their FAIL workaround was to strip the provision out of the budget bill and vote on it separately as they could do so without the missing Senators?

So now they're saying that they plan to put the provision BACK into a budget bill and try try again?

Wash (they generate a new budget bill with the fail policy)? Rinse (Senate Dems flee)? Repeat (they can't vote on the budget)?

Is it me? :shrug: :crazy:
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 07:32 PM
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11. Nobody said they were bright
:shrug:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:03 PM
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12. LOL
Okay. I feel better. Thanks! I thought for a minute that I lost my mind. :rofl:
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1adyhawk Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:46 PM
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13. d
No they aren't dumb.
They figure the Dems won't dare leave the state again if they bring it up for a vote in the budget bill.
It'll backfire if the Dems don't stay and fight this time.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:51 PM
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14. The issue before the court is procedural notice of a vote..
They did not provide 48 hours as required. So now they could give the 48 hour notice of a vote and then vote. It would not matter if the Dems leave.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:36 PM
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15. Delete
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 10:43 PM by murielm99
I think everyone else addressed this in a less confusing manner. Nevermind my post.
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