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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 02:49 PM
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California officials announce closure of 70 state parks
Source: Sacramento Bee

State parks officials today announced the closure of 70 parks because of the state budget deficit, including the governor's mansion and the Stanford mansion in Sacramento.

Gov. Jerry Brown's January budget plan proposed reducing the state parks budget by $22 million. The Legislature in March approved $11 million in cuts to state parks and $10 million in cuts to off highway vehicle parks in the next fiscal year, with $22 million in cuts to state parks in future years.

The California State Parks System was directed to identify which parks would close based on attendance rates and historical significance. The department operates more than 270 state park units covering more than 1.4 million acres.

... The department said service reductions will begin over the summer and closures will begin in September. All parks on the list are to be padlocked by July 1, 2012.

Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2011/05/california-officials-70-state-parks.html
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 02:51 PM
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1. They always pull this shit when they can't agree on a budget
Old people will die, children will starve, your house will burn to the ground, etc.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 02:51 PM
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2. What a shame.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 02:52 PM
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3. Sad. Here's the list
Here's a full list of the closures from the parks department:

Anderson Marsh SHP
Annadel SP
Antelope Valley Indian Museum
Austin Creek SRA
Bale Grist Mill SHP
Benbow Lake SRA
Benicia Capitol SHP
Benicia SRA
Bidwell Mansion SHP
Bothe-Napa Valley SP
Brannan Island SRA
California Mining & Mineral Museum
Candlestick Point SRA
Castle Crags SP
Castle Rock SP
China Camp SP
Colusa-Sacramento River SRA
Del Norte Coast Redwoods SP
Fort Humboldt SHP
Fort Tejon SHP
Garrapata SP
George J. Hatfield SRA
Governor's Mansion SHP
Gray Whale Cove SB
Greenwood SB
Grizzly Creek Redwoods SP
Hendy Woods SP
Henry W. Coe SP
Jack London SHP
Jug Handle SNR
Leland Stanford Mansion SHP
Limekiln SP
Los Encinos SHP
Malakoff Diggins SHP
Manchester SP
McConnell SRA
McGrath SB
Mono Lake Tufa SNR
Morro Strand SB
Moss Landing SB
Olompali SHP
Palomar Mountain SP
Petaluma Adobe SHP
Picacho SRA
Pio Pico SHP
Plumas-Eureka SP
Point Cabrillo Light Station
Portola Redwoods SP
Providence Mountains SRA
Railtown 1897 SHP
Russian Gulch SP
Saddleback Butte SP
Salton Sea SRA
Samuel P. Taylor SP
San Pasqual Battlefield SHP
Santa Cruz Mission SHP
Santa Susana Pass SHP
Shasta SHP
South Yuba River SP
Standish-Hickey SRA
Sugarloaf Ridge SP
Tomales Bay SP
Tule Elk SNR
Turlock Lake SRA
Twin Lakes SB
Weaverville Joss House SHP
Westport-Union Landing SB
William B. Ide Adobe SHP
Woodson Bridge SRA
Zmudowski SB
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 09:57 PM
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31. Olompali! That's where I stop to go to the bathroom
on the way to San Francisco.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 10:05 PM
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33. Really? That's a killer onramp
I'd never get off the 101 on one of those few places where they don't give you a proper onramp to get back on. The one near the gas station is even worse!

How far off the highway is the bathroom?
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 10:21 PM
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34. It's very close.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 10:57 PM
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35. Well I hope you noticed the list of California parks that are closing
Edited on Fri May-13-11 10:58 PM by Duer 157099
due to budget constraints, because it's on the list.

Do they have trees in the parking lot?

(edit: DOH! this very thread is about that, LOL, I can be pretty thick some times, lol)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 02:58 PM
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4. Oh, no.
:(
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 02:58 PM
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5. Did anyone read the Jerry Brown article in NYTimes Magazine a few weeks back?
Brown stated that if people did not want to fund the government then he was going to show them what a smaller government looks like. It looks like closed state parks.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 09:13 PM
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26. yeah, it sucks mightily
but, don't blame jerry for this. blame the repukes who won't allow the voters to vote on a budget with tax hikes that have been in affect for awhile. jerry warned us that it would happen, i'm taking him at his word!
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:07 PM
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6. This is fucked!
Some of my favorite places are on the list. We're scheduled to do 'Reggae on the River' at Benbow Lake in July.
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aggiesal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 05:23 PM
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12. Not anymore ...
All parks on the list are to be padlocked by July 1, 2012 under the current budget proposal.

Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2011/05/california-officials-70-state-parks.html#ixzz1MH2cMBhH
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 06:41 PM
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16. That's 2012...
...so events for this July should still be on.

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aggiesal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 07:53 PM
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19. Oops, my bad. Sorry about that. Enjoy while you can!!! n/t
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S_B_Jackson Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 07:43 PM
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18. How do you padlock
an area as large as Mono Lake?
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aggiesal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 07:55 PM
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20. Repeat after me; ALIENS!!! ...
As long as we don't have to pay them. :crazy:
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catchnrelease Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 08:30 PM
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22. I was wondering that myself.
Mono Lake is one of my favorite stopping places when I'm up in the Eastern Sierra--at least a couple times a year. The roads down to the Lake are basically unimproved on the South side, what would they do, block off the turnoff at the main highway? You can also walk down a trail from the big visitor center..... We're going up that way in June, will have to ask what will actually happen. Really sad.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:46 PM
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42. Probably rightwing militias will break in and use it for practice as is in some forests now.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 09:15 PM
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27. also
Edited on Fri May-13-11 09:16 PM by shanti
i noticed that hendy woods will be closed too. that is a hugely popular campground for the sierra nevada world music festival crowd. it usually sells out that weekend.

(on edit: just noticed that the park will close in july, so the festival should be ok as it's in june.)
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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:20 PM
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7. This is Pure Bullshit! They do this right as summer
approaches!

Folks, we had better start Not spending on stuff that is not "Made In The USA" and when we do, be careful and mindful of Where our shopping dollars go so we are not supporting those corporations and the politicians who Belong to them.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 04:06 PM
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9. The timing is simply AMAZING, isn't it?
:argh:
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 03:24 PM
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8. McGrath State Beach. :-(
A great camping spot, even if access to the water has been a bitch since the river flooded a few years back.
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Eyerish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 05:10 PM
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10. Damn....I've been to quite a few of those...
So, does this mean they'll just be closed until they can get more money for the state parks budget or will this land eventually be sold off??
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aggiesal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 05:21 PM
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11. Here are the statistics from CA. State Controller John Chiang's Office
There are approximately 16,403,234 workers in California.

So instead of closing 70 parks, we could tax all 16.4M workers an average of $1.34 per year extra,
which is approximately $0.11 per month.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 05:25 PM
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13. Will the next move be to sell them off at pennies on the dollar to private interests? Happening now.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 06:15 PM
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15. They want the beaches
I've been to California once but as I understand it the beachfront if public property -- is that right?

They want the beaches.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 08:52 PM
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24. They don't mind stealing ANY public land for private use; condos, churches, malls, resorts.
I don't know if Califoria is open beach along the entire coast, but I believe some of it is private. Oregon has open beach laws, I think; Washington state sold most of theirs off.

I know Texas has an open beach law, but since they've shut off the ferry from Galveston to Point Bolivar and made restrictions after Ike, they are going to grab it too, I guess. I think some of this was done in the Gulf after Katrina.

By using the word 'they' I mean these corporations, who are intent on taking every inch of decent land. I read of this happening in Japan when they had an economic downturn years ago. It's like it was in the Great Depression.

This is going to be excused because people are hurting, the states will scream that they don't have the money for it. These bandits break everything, scatter people and pick up the pieces for pennies. Always the same thing, from the days of Kings right into our future.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 04:25 AM
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38. Well said
I can't add anything further
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 09:18 PM
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28. no
that was the arnold gropenator's plan, and he's gone. jerry would not sell these off, he's better than that.
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 05:29 PM
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14. next step....privatization?
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:49 PM
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43. Always
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IcyPeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 06:58 PM
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17. How can they exactly close a state park?
it's not like you can put a fence around it -- so what does it mean exactly. :shrug:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 09:20 PM
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29. it means
you can't drive in and park - there are gates. also, the bathrooms will be locked and not maintained.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:50 PM
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44. Eventually, it will be auctioned off as vacant land to the same ones who created this mess.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:53 PM
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46. again
the state parks will NOT be auctioned off by jerry brown! that was schwarzenegger's bag and he's gone gone gone.
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JoeyTrib Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:54 PM
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47. Yep.
,
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 08:04 PM
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21. Would prop 21 have helped
It would have levied a surcharge of $18 on vehicle registration fees to fund the parks; it was rejected by 57% of voters.
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Lordquinton Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 08:32 PM
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23. No, Prop 21 would not help
We wouldn't be able to afford to get to these parks, rendering the whole thing moot. Taxing the rich and business would help, we've got plenty of them here who aren't contributing their fair share.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 08:57 PM
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25. padlocked? I hope people sneak in.
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jb5150 Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 09:30 PM
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30. If there are no employees
...who's gonna stop them?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 09:59 PM
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32. my thought also. Public shouldn't be prevented from enjoying the land just cuz
of budget cuts
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:33 AM
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41. People will still be able to enter and enjoy the land in most cases
They can close parking lots, but they really can't keep foot traffic out of most state parks (and by law they can't exclude people from beaches anywhere in the state, except for military bases and a handful of grandfathered private beaches.)
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 04:02 PM
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50. good to know
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 11:29 PM
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36. Well, if they close the park, but ticket trespassers, it goes from liability to asset.
:(
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 11:48 PM
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37. How to start a lot of fires.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 04:31 AM
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39. Always enough money for wars, though.
Many of these closures are tragic.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 06:56 AM
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40. Why Padlock the Parks?
I really don't give a shit if the visitor center is open -- I just want to hike on trails in beautiful natural areas OWNED BY WE THE PEOPLE.

If you don't have the funds to pay for staff & maintenance, just re-designate its status until the fiscal situation improves.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:52 PM
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45. It's a liability and the fiscal situation will remain poor until the land is taken by private hands.
Edited on Sat May-14-11 12:53 PM by freshwest
Then our kids will grow up in a world less open than ours.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 03:21 PM
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49. Redesignation as a wilderness area would carry the same liabilities
and in a wilderness you're on your own.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:59 PM
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48. Republicans Are Insisting On No Tax Exension, And Salary Reductions...
...across the board, while claiming that such reductions do not "reduce spending to education." I am sorry, if you cut teacher salaries, that is a cut in education. Finally, their proposed budget assumes no reserves in the budget, which is insane, and simply postpones the fiscal crisis for a few months.
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