Harold Camping 'flabbergasted'; rapture a no-show

[Zephie]

Source: SFgate

The man who said the world was going to end appeared at his front door in Alameda a day later, very much alive but not so well.

"It has been a really tough weekend," said Harold Camping, the 89-year-old fundamentalist radio preacher who convinced hundreds of his followers that the rapture would occur on Saturday at 6 p.m.

Massive earthquakes would strike, he said. Believers would ascend to heaven and the rest would be left to wander a godforsaken planet until Oct. 21, when Camping promised a fiery end to the world.

But on Sunday, almost 18 hours after he thought he'd be in heaven, there was Camping, "flabbergasted" in Alameda, wearing tan slacks, a tucked-in polo shirt and a light jacket.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/22/BAKO1JJIK7.DTL&tsp=1

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I was wondering when he was going to show his face again. No excuses from him yet, looks like we'll have to wait until Monday for that.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

1. God must be on the fritz.

[gtar100]

25. He's very disappointed about what? That all us non-believers aren't going to roast?

Amusing that he considers his weekend to have been "really rough".

[L. Coyote]

73. It would have been better if he had gotten hit on the arse by a cloud, I guess.

in the sense: Don't let a cloud hit you in the arse on your way out :rofl:

[Warpy]

70. He's certainly LATE.

After all, Jesus told his Apostles that it would happen before the last of them had died. The only conclusions are that either it happened 2000 years ago and we're all the offspring of the damned many generations later, or even Jesus found out that death is a one way trip.

[spin]

2. I'm glad he didn't commit suicide...

I'm not really sure why.

[Lasher]

3. He should have hidden under his bed.

That way we'd think he got raptured.

[Ikonoklast]

10. I wondered where I had seen Mr. Camping before...

He was real creepy in that movie, but I didn't know he was playing himself.

[RaleighNCDUer]

20. You're dead on -

this was the first pic I'd seen of him, and that was my first thought, too.

[Lasher]

22. I hate it when milk comes out of my nose.

You owe me a keyboard.

:spray:

[Turborama]

41. And I've found his long-lost brother...

_____________ __________

[Eugenian]

31. What's the deal

with the question mark on that sign? I thought he said it was a 100% sure thing.

[badgerpup]

69. This is not nice of me...

...but that guy looks like something out of Night of the Living Dead!:scared::yoiks:

And not just because of his age either...I know (and have cared for) plenty of older folks who were NOT dried-up, poisonous sticks.

Even those who were in extremely poor health (read: terminally ill).

[sakabatou]

4. "I have no idea why it was a no-show, but at least I got your money!"

[guruoo]

5. Cheer up, Harold, you've still got the end of the world to fall back on. nt

[gtar100]

6. Now he's got to figure out what to do with all that money he raised.

What a bummer for the guy.

[Orrex]

9. Out of curiosity, how much money did he raise?

I've listened to a few dozen of his Open Forum programs from start to finish and have never heard him ask for a dime.

That's not to say that people haven't been sending him donations, but do we have facts-n-figures on this?

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

15. Wondering the same thing myself

From all the footage I've seen of his home, it looks like he lives rather averagely.

Did all of the funds go into the billboard campaign, or is he just hoarding a huge pile of cash? Or is his wealth exaggerated?

[gtar100]

17. Here are some reports

According to MinistryWatch.com, which grades Christians organizations on financial transparency, Family Stations, Inc. (dba Family Radio), which Camping founded, has a transparency grade of "C."

The organization relies mainly on contributions, MinistryWatch.com reports.

Its total assets as of 2007 – which was the most recent year MinistryWatch.com had financial statements for – was $152 million. Contributions in 2007 totaled nearly $16 million. In the period between 2003 and 2006, the organization received around $13 million to $15 million in contributions each of those years.

IRS filings indicate that in 2009, contributions totaled around $18 million. Total assets were also recorded for that year as $72 million.

Though Camping does not receive a salary or other financial compensation, according to Family Radio, he and his ministry have been accused of running a scam.

Harold Camping's Rapture Doomsday a Scam?

Also:

Does Harold Camping’s Ministry Have Money?

Harold Camping "Rapture man"... Follow the money internet roundup...

(edit: title, since I found more than one report)

[thelordofhell]

36. Well, I'm obviously in the wrong business, time to create a religion

I think that's how L. Ron Hubbart started

[Orrex]

49. Thanks!

I had heard that his organization was a "multimillion dollar empire" but wasn't sure on the specifics.


This would be an easy life if I had no scruples. There are certainly enough people out there eager to give away their money to hucksters.

[theHandpuppet]

35. I read somewhere it was around 18 million

But there should be other sources... with an accurate figure. And to think, it's all tax-free.

[The Second Stone]

7. Tough weekend? Really?

Not compared to what he had predicted.

[bjobotts]

8. But the rapture did happen only all 144k were unknown to him or his followers.He was left behind

[Tesha]

44. That's the theory I'll be promoting!

I mean, among 7,000,000,000 of us (+/-), who'd
notice 144,000 gone missing? Especially if the
Elect were from Earth's less-advantaged people
(as seems likely).

Tesha

[bvar22]

62. The USA killed way more Iraqis, and nobody here seems to care much.

Maddy Albright confirmed that The Sanctions under Bill Clinton killed over 500,000 Iraqi Children during the 90s,
but she said she thought it "was worth it".

If The Rapture Selections strictly followed the teachings of Jesus,
very, very few Americans would be eligible.

[RKP5637]

11. Now that's what you call a major F-Up. There's no way wiggling out of

this one.

[geomon666]

12. Gotta love the other sharks picking off the doubters.

"Well he was wrong but I'm right. Give your money to me instead." Sickening.

[BREMPRO]

13. "flatu-gassted" more like it... big farting fizzle

[Turbineguy]

14. "It has been a really tough weekend,"

OK. Let's give him a few points for understatement.

[doublethink]

16. Oh boy .....

"But now I have nothing else to say," he said, closing the door to his home. "I'll be back to work Monday and will say more then." -snip-

A Charlatans work is never done. Back to work Monday .... :eyes:

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

18. that's going to be the highest-rated Open Forum ever

easily.

[jberryhill]

19. The Bible predicts that the rapture comes two weeks after the flabbergasting

Hold on, kids...

[SoapBox]

21. What a maroon......

[mackerel]

23. A rich maroon who is always willing to take donations

even on the day of reckoning.

[DeSwiss]

24. K&R

- He needs one of these......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0">

[Citizen Worker]

26. Not to worry. Camping will go back to the drawing board and in the meantime double up on the number

of collection plates. I'm reminded of a line from the documentary film, Margoe, when Marjoe is safely back in his hotel room with sacks full of money laughing and giggling with glee as he throws the money up in the air and saying, "...and a young child shall fleece them..." Where else but America, eh?

[Bluesbreaker]

27. Who cares?

How many important issues didn't receive coverage (again) so that this looney prediction by a crackpot could get wall-to-wall coverage for four days and counting. No wonder we're in trouble. Are we supposed to rely on our infotainment media as the watchdog of Democracy?

[queerart]

50. I Am So With You On This.....

It's the same thing I said to a cashier at Walmart when shopping on rapture day as she brought it up......


Something broke when I wasn't paying attention......


.... and it appears it will never be fixed again... and with the amount of money this guy controls.... he's no "lone nut in the wilderness....


That's for damn sure.......

[Blue_Tires]

55. +1000

[Zhade]

64. But surely we must all be vigilant enough to never forget this flabbergastastrophe!

I'd have liked to see some stuff in the news about how religion is child abuse, but mine is not a popular view.

[Blacksheep214]

28. How many nut jobs hurt their children?

We had the one woman in So. Cal who knifed her kids.

This crap is dangerous!

[behrstar]

54. Darwin

[RebelOne]

71. Darwin was a not a nut job.

That is if you do not believe in evolution. Or maybe you are a proponent of intelligent design.

[pepperbear]

29. don't worry, harry. in another week, you'll realize that you simply forgot to carry the "2."

[Golden Raisin]

Is he refunding all the money

he bilked from his gullible and fearful followers? Haven't heard that announcement yet.

[Golden Raisin]

30. Is he refunding all the money

he bilked from his gullible and fearful followers? Haven't heard that announcement yet.

[6000eliot]

32. It didn't occur to him that maybe it happened and he got "left behind?"

[Sky Masterson]

33. Maybe there just isn't a god and he is a fool

who has wasted his entire life believing in a fairy tale like countless millions of others..I'm going with that.

[customerserviceguy]

42. He didn't just believe it

He made a good living selling it.

Maybe if he had dropped dead at 6 PM his local time, I might have believed there was a god.

[JAnthony]

48. I'm going with that explanation, too. I suppose..

there's not a chance in "hell" that he would try the sciences instead of mythology and superstition to explain the world around him.

Nah...not a "ghost" of a chance of that!

[Sky Masterson]

34. Harold Camping dies after a life of devout belief and he see's whats next

Camping..I'm flabbergasted.I thought for sure that there was an afterlife

[thelordofhell]

38. I totally believe in the afterlife

I'm coming back as wormfood and fertilizer

[chillspike]

37. Wanna get away?

Now you can! Fly to your favorite vacation destinations on South West airlines for as little as $59!!!

[thelordofhell]

39. Not goin' anywhere for a while?

Grab a Snickers

[Frank Cannon]

45. Life not very exciting?

Snap into a Slim Jim!

[d_r]

40. "sorry man":

"I know you've got to be disappointed, but hey, it's not the end of the world."


OR maybe the rapture really did happen on May 21, God just didn't have anybody worth taking.

[SemperEadem]

43. pride goes before destruction and the haughty spirit before the fall

next time, don't puff yourself up thinking you know the mind of god. You don't.

[Champion Jack]

46. please try again later

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[rasputin1952]

47. Years ago, I was channel surfing and these two 20 twenty somethings were

sitting on metal folding chairs talking about religion. Generally, I pass by these these things rapidly, but maybe it wast the folding chairs, or the polo shirts and jeans, or the sheet that hung behind them, in any case, there was nothing about cash considering these two.

The message was clear and straight to the point, neither of these individuals wanted any money, in fact, they never mentioned a denomination, website or anything else, other than they were "Christians". The production lasted about an hour, and after about 20 seconds I am sick to death of such things, but these two had me riveted to to tube.

They discussed Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Jainism, Shinto and a host of other theologies as well as agnosticism and atheism....not one word was negative toward any of these religions, philosophies, belief, (or lack of belief), systems. The message was about as simple as could be, if an individual was hungry, do what you could to feed him or her, especially a child. If it was cold, do not be afraid to provide a blanket or coat, warm socks or anything else to ease the pain of the cold. If a person was dirty, offer them a chance to get get cleaned up. If they were injured, do what you could to help immediately, then seek definitive care for the individual.

When they did mention money, it was not for them, or for a church, synagogue, mosque, etc...if one felt they should give money, or purchase something for someone in need, it was a personal decision made by the individual at the time and according to a circumstance that had been encountered. All of this, and much more, found it's way into my psyche and a little niche where I would occasionally pull it out and think about how well these two fared in life. If they had done a small percentage of what they were talking to me about, (and I did feel as if they were talking directly to me), then a small part of the earth was doing a little better.

Several years after seeing this presentation, I headed off to Target to buy a new winter coat that had gone on sale. I was happy to pass through the double doors and feel the warmth surround me, it was about 10F and a brisk breeze outside, snow had started to fall...it was good to be inside. I found nice down coat, plenty of pockets, nice lining...even came with a pair of gloves as a bonus! So I happily went to the checkout with my new purchase...then something happened I can't quite explain. I had $111 on me, that was it, the coat, on sale, (w/gloves!) was supposed to be $58 + tax, bringing it to $62.35, but there was a "special" beyond the sale price, so the coat cost $41.99+tax total $45.14; needless to say, I was happy. With said jacket in a large Target bag, I left the store ready for the winter.

What happened next, I can't be sure of, as I entered the store, I did not see anyone on the bench outside the entrance, but I wasn't looking for anyone either, I was cold and wanted to get into the store. When I left, there was a man, perhaps in his 60s sitting on the bench in a sweater shivering. I sat down next to him, and asked when he had eaten last, (it was the day before). I took out my new coat, removed all of the tags and helped the man put it on, he found the gloves and his eyes twinkled. There was a food court so we went in, and I told him to get anything he wanted, he was going for a hot dog and a Pepsi, but I asked if he could use something more substantial, he got a pretty good meal. I took him to the local shelter where he could stay warm that night and they had assets I didn't as well as contacts that could help.

I never saw the man again, but, as now, I think of those two twenty somethings, and how they gave me a spark to help another, never asking for anything, except that we treat our fellow human beings with respect and dignity. If there is a heaven, sometimes, we get a little glimpse.

[queerart]

53. What A Stellar Story.....

There is quite a good chance you changed someone's life path...... "kindness"... that is the true meaning of all religions...


Just think.... (with the massive funds all of Organized Religion collects)... what they really could do.....


It boggles the mind....

[bemildred]

51. Let me know when he sends all the donations back. nt

[yellowcanine]

52. "I'm looking for answers," Camping said, So are we Harold.

For starters, how about a big apology and returning the donations you raised based on this "prediction".

A simple "mea culpa" ain't going to cut it. Not that I would expect even that.

[Nossida]

56. There should be a Law

Anyone going to Investigate the useless old Reprobate?
How many Morons sent him their Life Savings? I mean
think about it People. No doubt there isn't 1 Law that
protects the Terminally Stupid from these Religious
Predators. Some poor dupes out there no doubt went too
far with this obvious scam, and caused many people sheer
pain. A clear case of yelling Fire in a Crowded Theater.
All these Religious Wankers do is prey on people's fear.
And all that money he racked in is Tax Free. Thanks to
his Friends in the republican Party, he no doubt gets
Faith Based handouts from the Fed, and all the glorious
cash he can rake in from the simple minded, and never
once be challenged for it. These Fundamentalist are the
Untergang of the Republic. After Rome made them Legal,
Rome never won another battle. Now they Own the US Air
Force, and dominate the US Government. There is NO
separation of Church and State in the US. The Holy Rollers
are the State Religion. Bloody Vampire.

[rocktivity]

57. I'm surprised he's not taking credit for Joplin MO tornado

If he miscalculated the date, maybe also miscalculated God's weapon of choice.

:eyes:
rocktivity

[Snoutport]

58. he's probably shopping with the millions he made over this...

[Posteritatis]

59. Aw, I liked my mental image of him flopping futilely against his living room ceiling. (nt)

[Javaman]

60. There are several possible outcomes...

1)Camping will state that he and or his followers didn't pray hard enough.

2)Camping will state that he was wrong on the date and forgot to carry the 1.

3)Camping and his followers will continue to believe that the world did in fact come to an end, but a spiritual one.

4)Campings followers will start their own religion with their own end of times date. Claiming he was wrong all along

5)Campings followers will continue to send Camping donations so he can go back to school and retake remedial math.

6)Camping will appeal to the small minority hold outs that still believe his BS to "keep the faith".

Or more than likely...

6)Camping will retire to some remote area with the millions he made off of his sucker followers and basically give them the old FU.

[robertpaulsen]

61. That was awkward.

[crim son]

63. I don't believe that for a second.

I'm curious if he gave away his worldly possessions in anticipation of his leave taking. No? What a surprise.

[thereismore]

65. There would be a massive earthquake rolling around the globe at 6PM in every time zone?

What a fucking self-centered asshole.

[Ratty]

66. This is their excuse

I was wondering what their excuse would be when (or if - hey, I try to keep an open mind) the rapture failed to occur and I finally found a quote someplace. One of the followers they interviewed said God answered their prayers. He delayed the rapture so more people could be saved. Watch for Camping to adopt this in the coming days.

[LetTimmySmoke]

67. Flabbergasted all the way to the bank.

Time to prosecute his sorry ass for the scam he ran.

[Akoto]

68. "Maybe the constant is love, and the rest you can let go of."

Smart man, that Mr. Hicok.

[L. Coyote]

72. So, he now believes his own arse will be fried on October 21?

Somehow, I would not be surprised if he thinks heaven will end up completely empty! :rofl:

[CreekDog]

74. Well I'm sure the millions he raised off his false prediction will mitigate his pain and regret

:eyes:

[Blacksheep214]

75. Rapture?

Isn't that some made up crap which was never actually addressed in the bible?

[struggle4progress]

76. What? He still owns a house in Alameda?

[AndyTiedye]

77. I Don't think these Fundies Understand How this Rapture Thing Works

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIRG0QOEkyM&NR=1&feature=fvwp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuTfYoRVl0E

[AndyTiedye]

78. I Don't think these Fundies Understand How this Rapture Thing Works

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIRG0QOEkyM&NR=1&feature=fvwp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuTfYoRVl0E

[brooklynite]

79. Radio host who predicted End of Days to speak

Source: Salon

Harold Camping.The radio host who predicted the world would end last Saturday says he's ready to talk about why the apocalypse didn't arrive.

Harold Camping declined Monday to immediately comment to The Associated Press at his home, but said he'll make a full statement in a radio broadcast later in the day.

The 89-year-old Camping told the San Francisco Chronicle on Sunday he was "flabbergasted" his doomsday prophecy did not come true.

Read more: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2011/05/23/us_apocalypse_saturday_1/index.html

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Place your bets...

[av8rdave]

80. It's simple...the rapture DID occur..

There were just so few people who made the cut that nobody noticed.

[rucky]

85. My theory:

The only person to make it on the shortlist was Randy "Macho Man" Savage, so God decided to move it up a couple of days.

[many a good man]

95. People were raptured at the DMV in Brentwood

http://dcist.com/2011/05/one_place_rapture_did_hit_the_dmv.php

Tells me DMVs in Heaven are gonna be just as bad as down here!

[SCantiGOP]

87. No, I'm up here

There weren't but a few of us that made it. I can't decide what to do next. I can move to the future and watch Dick Cheney begin his eternal waterboarding, or go see Rush Limbaugh being reincarnated as a poor, uneducated inner city kid who gets pimped out by his meth-addicted uncle.
Gotta go. The roaming charges for texting up here are, so to speak, astronomical.

[timtom]

105. Great!

Excellent!

[truthisfreedom]

81. What he's about to announce is competely predictable. "Prayers have been answered. The lord has

delayed rapture in answer to the prayers of millions of his believers to give humanity more time to prepare. God is merciful!"


"Please send your donations to..."

Religion is a closed system. There's no truth getting in, and nobody getting out.

[housewolf]

88. I was about to say something similar

He'll say so many people repented, prayed and changed their ways that the Lord was swayed to give us another chance.

Ditto on the "Please send your donations..."


LOL

[LynneSin]

92. Please don't lump that asshole in with the majority of us Christians

The rapture is not a mainstream idea - most major religious organizations do not buy into this story. It's more along the lines of made up crap perpetuated by people like the guy who wrote the "Left Behind" series.

I am a Christian, I believe one day this world will end but technically according to science all planets do have a time limit. The Sun (or stars) will one day implode and Earth will be a goner. Having said that, when the world will end is a date that is unknown to anyone but God.

Yesterday I joked about the Rapture with a family of devout Catholics. Today, I joked about the Rapture with the Baptists that run my local non-profit coffee shop - they thought it was a joke too. For most Christians - anyone who claims they know when the world will end are arrogant assholes that should not be trusted. Three times Jesus was quoted as saying "Only God knows", so for Camping and his ilk to claim they know the date means either Jesus is lying or they are. Most of us side with Jesus.

The sad thing is this, the Christian faith is a pretty decent faith with alot of bad people giving us a bad rep. Just like someone like Osama Bin Laden makes the Muslim faith look bad, so does someone like Harold Camping. Sure, Camping never ordered planes to be flown into buildings, but he scammed thousands of people to give up their entire savings for his hoax.

[LAGC]

98. Don't you think mainstream Christians might be contributing to the problem though?

I mean, just the fact that most Christians believe that Jesus will come back someday (many in this life-time) and the world, as we know it, will end -- feeds right into these extremists who latch on to such popular ideas and take them to their logical conclusions: Jesus appearing on a certain date.

I just think its kind of hard for mainstream Christians to criticize these freaks, without looking in the mirror some and asking themselves if they don't subscribe to a similar, if not as predictable, delusion?

[LynneSin]

106. Then you assume alot about us and know nothing

these people make up a very small fraction of the Christians. Do you assume because Osama Bin Laden used his religion to attack this country that all Muslims are horrible hateful people? That's exactly what you are doing when you lump us in with Camping. Do I believe the world might end one day - yes. I believe it because of my faith and also the fact that I have a 4 year science degree that states one day this world will be destroyed, probably from the Sun aging. That doesn't make any of us crazy - if anything we mainstream Christians were the most outspoken against this whole cRapture woo-hoo.

[LAGC]

109. Do you deny that most Christians believe that Christ will personally come back some day?

Presumably some day long before the Sun engulfs the planet? I'm not saying mainstream Christians are as bad as Camping, by any means, just that their more popularly held beliefs ENABLE folks like Camping to attract as many followers as he does. If it wasn't for the widespread belief in the Second Coming of Christ, folks like Camping would never have been able to win over as many converts as he apparently has -- converts, I might add, that will probably stick with him for his latest revised October doomsday prediction, and maybe even after it turns out to be a dud as well.

I just find it odd that so many mainstream Christians write-off Camping as an obvious kook, yet ignore their own far-fetched ideas about end-times prophecy and what not. But to each their own, I guess.

[LynneSin]

112. So what?

That's my faith. How does that enable Camping? Are you saying that Muslims beliefs somehow enable Terrorists to fly planes into buildings? I mean that's where you're going - you are accusing everyday people who follow a faith into causing radicalism.

Jesus told us we will never know when the end of the world will happen (Matthew 24:36). I believe it could happen one day but it may be years, decades or milliniums until that might happen. Personally most of us Christians don't go around worrying about it, we're too busy living our lives.

But heck, if you'd like to continue your religious ignorance please do so. :eyes:

[LAGC]

113. I'm an ex-Christian dear, so believe me, I know the drill.

While you make a good point with your Muslim analogy (in fact, I do kind of blame mainstream Islam for laying the ground-work for its radical off-shoots, especially in Saudi Arabia) I just find it odd that so many mainstream religious folks of ANY stripe can so easily pass judgment on their radical off-shoots while completely exonerating their own complicity in holding very similar beliefs regarding prophecy, end-times, hoped for after-life, etc.

It causes me to sometimes wonder: maybe we have just a wee bit too much religious sentiment in the world, for our own good?

[LynneSin]

115. That doesn't give you the right to be ignorant to those who still believe.

And there isn't anything wrong with faith in this world. You name me any group or sect of people and there will always be radicals that give it a bad name. And that isn't just with religion but with race and nationalities too. You name me a segment of people and there are those out there that take their beliefs to the far extreme.

You need to stop blaming the mainstream for these radical groups - they exist because they can and many times because a government gives them that freedom to express themselves.

[LAGC]

116. How is questioning religious hypocrisy being "ignorant?"

As a formerly believing Christian, I know quite well what Christianity is about, so its not like I'm speaking from lack of knowledge or familiarity with the basic tenets of the Christian faith. I lived it for the first 15 years of my life for Christ sakes. What definition of "ignorance" are you using?

I agree with you that religious freedom allows radical sects to form, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Really, I think we need more religious diversity across the globe, meaning more non-Christians here in the Americas and Europe, more non-Muslims in the Middle East, etc. to break up the hegemony of any one particular faith. It just seems like most of these fringe radicals branch off when there's an excessive amount of one particular faith in a region, all concentrated in one geographical area. I just think if more people saw more options to choose from, interacting with more people of different faiths, they wouldn't get so pigeon-holed into one ideology, and its off-shoots.

I just think it would be good for the sake of promoting religious moderation and tolerance, as well as giving more ammo to those who choose not to believe any of the religious paths, if we took freedom of religion to heart and diversified our portfolio, so to speak.

[rug]

82. When the Jehovah's Witnesses were wrong about 1914, they claimed a spiritual judgment had occurred.

[LAGC]

99. And, if you'll take note...

The JW's are still alive and kicking almost 100 years later, with millions more new followers since.

I don't think Camping's groupies are going away any time soon. They've done everything but drink the Kool-Aid.

[KamaAina]

101. I thought they walked it back by saying "when the generation that witnessed the World War has passed

which, come to think of it, would be pretty soon. :scared:

[rug]

103. You may be fright. There were a couplr of explanations

And Frank Buckles just died!

:wow:

[Hassin Bin Sober]

83. Here's the audio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TuLBa-rgBk

[mike_c]

84. who cares what Camping has to say about anything...?

The man is religiously insane. He needs care, not a microphone.

[Iliyah]

86. Will he

reimburse the people who gave up everything for him?????

NOPE

[JohnnyRingo]

89. I think that he sits on $74mil that he refuses to distribute to the needy says everything

The man is 90 years old and can't possibly spend it but he insists on hoarding his cash though he knows he can't take it with him. It's obvious he's setting up his heirs (and probably his ministry) fo generations to come.

[LynneSin]

90. It's easier for a camel to go thru the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into...

the Kingdom of Heaven.

If there was a Rapture - Camping would have been left behind.

[Mz Pip]

108. This is my OPINION

just to make the "opinion" part of this clear, but I think IMHO that he needs to be investigated by the IRS and whoever else for f*cking fraud.

Yeah, I know, my OPINION isn't law but it seems to me IMHO that this is worth investigating. I have no idea what kind of pressure this guy put on his sheeple to donate. 72 million dollars??? He needs to return some of those "contributions." IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.

And no, this is not directed at you. I know we can't legislate stupidity or prevent people from giving away their life's saving to con men like this. But, geez Louise. This is just wrong.

[JohnnyRingo]

110. I can't think of a better definition of the word fraud.

I'm no lawyer, but I bet more honest men have served time.

[mikeytherat]

93. I don't think he's insane, I think he's just a con man.

Like all grifters, he goes for the easy marks first - those who want to believe his message. Apparently, there are quite a few of them to be fleeced (enough for him to amass a solid eight figures over the years). Sell the message, fail to deliver the product, keep the money, and stay in business. Not too shabby.

mikey_the_rat

[snooper2]

96. Actually, he may be a really smart atheist

:evilgrin:

[mike_c]

97. LOL, you've got a point there....

:rofl:

[LynneSin]

91. Geez, maybe the asshole decided to finally believe that Matthew 24:36 was right

(for those who don't know that was Jesus stating that no one will ever know when the rapture will happen - he was also quoted that same message in Marks and Acts).

[Nossida]

94. Haven't we

heard enough from you already Rev Harold Loser Camping?
Some don't know when to Shut Up.

[lumberingbear]

100. I notice that they have a new more modern updated webpage today.

Evidently someone "planned ahead".

:rofl:

[Overseas]

102. Didn't end because he'd only made 72 million and wanted 100 million.

Or proved that people will forgive and forget since they believed him again, even after his failed 1994 prediction of the Rapture.

Maybe he wants to see if they'd forgive sooner than 7 years after the last failed prediction.

[lib2DaBone]

104. Just send $9.95 and you wil receive your "official" rapture key chain..

[brooklynite]

107. AND WE HAVE A WINNER! Who had...

..."I was right after all!"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1161243

[Ter]

111. Here's why it didn't happen:

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

114. his videographer has posted a post-rapture wrap-up

it's...interesting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LLOuJiVly4&feature=channel_video_title