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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 08:49 AM
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BREAKING NEWS: U.S. Rep. Weiner tells friends he is resigning, NYT reports. Developing..
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 08:50 AM by Lochloosa
Source: NY Times

Breaking

Read more: http://www.msn.com/
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 08:50 AM
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1. And now, our national nightmare is finally over
:eyes:
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savannah43 Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:16 PM
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105. Look out a window. Rainbows and butterflies
all over the place!
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #105
115. Maybe in your happy world ...
but for the rest of us, it's weiners.
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savannah43 Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:31 PM
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121. Burgers too?
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:26 PM
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113. yes...
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 12:26 PM by MrMickeysMom
... the "horror".... :eyes:
:eyes:
:eyes:
:eyes:
:eyes:
:eyes:
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blkmusclmachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:40 PM
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124. Strain a gnat, but swallow a camel.
:(
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 08:51 AM
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2. F**k ... eom
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 08:57 AM
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3. When is Boehner going to follow his own demand.
His little scandal which is a much bigger deal in the eyes of the Lord should be headline news. But the media is fixated on pictures of a weiner.

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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 08:57 AM
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4. And they win ... again
Dammit. What a big mess. I'm sure Breitbart is celebrating in style.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #4
95. They won with LOTS of help
from our Democratic leadership. Now I'll be holding my breath for Leader Pelosi, President Obama,and others to go after Vitter with the same tenacity and voraciousness as they had with Anthony Weiner.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 08:59 AM
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5. We lose a tough progressive on domestic issues. n/t
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savannah43 Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:00 PM
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90. I am done forever with the Dems and the GOP.
The lousy Dems do nothing about numerous GOP war criminals, perverts, thieves, and murderers, and they cannibalize one of their own. But he isn't really one of their own, because he fought for real people and was not motivated by his own greed like most of the others are. He never pretended to be a Dem while actually being a closeted member of the Greedy Old Party. That's why this happened to him. Same thing happened to Scott Ritter. I think Weiner should run for president just to fuck with them. If a senile old idiot and a plain garden variety idiot can become president, then someone as smart and aggressive as Weiner just might pull it off, regardless of this trumped up "outrage."
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #5
100. Yes, this sucks.
Our democratic leadership is truly stupid.

:thumbsdown:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:00 AM
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6. Vitter, Craig, Thomas, to name a few ....
Can't we just institutionalize witch hunting now, burn everyone at the stake that gets naked, or something like that? :rofl:
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:01 AM
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7. DETAILS...
Weiner Tells Friends He Will Step Down

WASHINGTON — Representative Anthony D. Weiner has told friends that he plans to resign his seat after coming under growing pressure from his Democratic colleagues to leave the House, said a person told of Mr.

His decision follows of revelations of his lewd online exchanges with women, said a person told of Mr. Weiner’s plans.

The news comes as Democratic leaders prepared to hold a meeting on Thursday to discuss whether to strip the 46-year-old Congressman of his committee assignments, a blow which would severely damage his effectiveness.

Mr. Weiner, a Democrat, came to the conclusion that he could no longer serve after having long discussions with his wife, Huma Abedin, when she returned home on Tuesday after traveling abroad with her boss, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/17/nyregion/anthony-d-weiner-tells-friends-he-will-resign.html?_r=1&hp
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larkrake Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:05 AM
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11. maybe MSNBC will hire him to debate serious issues with repugs
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:44 AM
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32. He can sit across from Luke Russert,,
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savannah43 Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:01 PM
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93. He can sit with Spitzer.
The two of them, let loose, can bring down every single weasel in government.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:01 PM
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92. But torture, eavesdropping, ignoring habeas corpus, starting a war for oil
and not for defense, those crimes go unrecognized. Weiner's misbehavior gets him ousted from Congress.

Our Democratic members of Congress don't know how to prioritize their values. No wonder we can't get anywhere.

I hope that the liberals of San Francisco show Pelosi where she can put her values.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #92
108. I love you list but
Are you talking about Bush or Obama or both?

Sure Weiner is a cut above the main stream Democrats so it really is a shame that his bright future is being extinguished over some B.S. personal social networking faux pas, when there is so much more important issues that he championed to resolve.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #108
143. Both.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #92
147. Thank you for stating the obvious
It's almost as if the Democratic Party wanted to lose a trouble-maker....

Hypocrites all of them.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #25
107. No kidding. Can I still be a member of DU if I become an
Independant? I'm actully embarrassed to say I'm a Democrat these days. What a bunch of good-for-nothing wimps.

Honestly, can anyone tell me what they have done for us lately?
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:02 AM
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8. Sorry this is happening, but.....
He did it to himself! Stupid doesn't even begin to describe what he did and we really needed his voice. Oh well...
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:04 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. This is loser thinking...every time Weiner is mentioned the answer should be Vitter...
or another Republican who has brazened out a similar scandal. Attack is the best defense, and until Dems learn that, they will be losers.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:14 AM
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17. Oh well, I guess I'm a loser then
I feel so bad for his wife that I have a hard time trying to conjure up any amount of thought for how we could have saved his position.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:04 AM
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45. His wife had forgiven him
And generally she had no problem with it. It is hard to figure out who had the real problem with all of this. It has been the quietest and least sexy sex scandal that I have ever heard of. What amazes me is how little sex there actually was in this stupid thing. Other polticians have done far more and far worse and have gotten slapped with a wet noodle.


Hmm... I wonder what the difference in treatment could be?
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #45
71. How do you know what his wife thought?
She has made no statement since this began.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #71
98. I believe it was implied
I suppose thought to satisfy your requirements of the couple she would have to stage a public press conference where she forgives him to sate your desire for his denigration.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #98
150. If anything a lack of statement implies she did not support him.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #150
154. Apparantly your mind reading powers are better than mine
Hats off! Are you planning on opening a school for the gifted in Salem Center New York?
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #154
155. You were the one who made the original statement.
I never pretended to know what his wife thought.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #45
120. How would you know?
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #45
159. I'm not sure what his wife forgiving him or not has to do with how I feel for her
She didn't deserve this and forgiveness or no, I'm sure she was hurt by what he did.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #17
54. It's none of your business. You want him to resign because YOU feel sorry
for his wife?? This isn't about YOU.

We've just lost a strong progressive voice because of the prim pearl-clutchers in this fucked-up country. Happy now?
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:05 PM
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140. I'm not happy. In fact, I said that I am sorry that this happened
And we need his voice. However, it's not my fault or the fault of anyone else except him!
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:08 PM
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142. What does my husband have to do with this?
And why am I being attacked? This makes no sense. I honestly don't give two flying figs about what he did and if you read my original post I said that I'm sorry this is happening but if attacking me makes you feel better then help yourself.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:15 AM
Response to Reply #10
19. that suggests a false equivalency
Any time this Weiner thing is brought up, the response should be that he did nothing illegal, and that a politician's private life is no one else's fucking business. Vitter used prostitutes, which is very illegal. There is nothing at all similar between the two cases. One is bullshit media hype in a country too caught up in fairy tails about puritan superiority, and the other is a case of a legislator repeatedly, and knowingly, breaking the law.
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RainFromAbove Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:30 AM
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29. He lied
He lied. He lied to the public. He lied to his constituents. He lied to his colleagues. He lied to the president. He lied to his supporters. He lied until the lies didn't work. Good bye, and good riddance.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #29
47. Feh
Were you one of the puritans that would have preferred Clinton to resign as well?

After all, he lied about sex under oath. Oddly there was a massive defence of his actions whereas Weiner is left out to roast. Even more odd are the number of Clintonoid DLC people that have found their damned petticoats now that it is an outspoken and loud progressive that is under fire.
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #47
152. there is a HUGE difference between the President resigning
And a Congressman resigning. A President resigning would jeopardize the state of the union so his resignation should only happen in extreme circumstances.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #152
157. And that is what you are going with?
That it would harm the nation?

Didn't Nixon use arguments like that when he was defending himself from accusations made against him?

So because the president is more important we have to expect less from him?

Really I'm totally confused here. A president lies under oath and he stays (by the way I defended him tooth and nail for the assaults on him as well if you want to know). But a congressman does it and we all dive at him with swords drawn? Bullshit. This was political.
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #157
161. I think you misunderstand what I'm saying..
I'm saying that the President resigning would be a threat to the state of the union so he should only resign when staying in office itself jeopardizes the state of the union.

Nixon would fit that definition because if he stayed in office it would've severely harmed the political system.

Clinton could've been punished without resigning.

Of course this is political(Weiner) and he is resigning for political reasons. But I think one duty of a Congressman is to represent their party's interests and Weiner's actions did the opposite.

The President represents broader interests and is the foundation of the entire system.

We shouldn't expect less from the President but we should expect him to be human and do stupid things. So we shouldn't have to worry about the President resigning based on minor matters.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #161
163. A few things


1) That is a BS argument. The definition of harming the nation is vauge and has no actual meaning in the real world. Bush did more harm than anyone did to this nation in the last hundred years or so and the DLC/blue dog end of the Democratic party barely whined.

2) This country can survive resignations even if they are the president. The president is not a king and there is a succession of power and a lot of laws that assure the transition be peaceful. To suggest somehow that a resignation would do some kind of mystically vauge damage to the country is absurd.

3) Again, I defended Clinton to everyone I knew because going after someone for sex is BS. Anyone that suggests otherwise is monumentally full of it.
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #163
164. well the framers of the Constitution seemed to think removal of
The President should be much more difficult than removing Congressman so resignation of a President should require something more than the resignation of a Congressman.

It's more absurd you can't recognize the difference between having to replace a Congressman.

This is why the President gets Secret Service protection and Congressman don't.

This isn't just a private sex issue...Twitter isn't private so Weiner knowingly opened himself up to this. Other Congressmen have resigned for similar circumstances so why shouldn't Weiner?

Clinton should've been punished as I said but removing a President has specific Constitutional requirements.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #164
165. feh
Well I would like to thank you for your words first. They tasted particularly good, even as you were having me say them.

Seriously, yes I know the difference between a congressman and a president. The fact that we are having a discussion about this would seem to indicate that. But the real facts are that at no time, during the entire impeachment circus led by the Scaife funded scam artist known as Starr, did anyone credibly suggest that we could not impeach Clinton or remove him for national security reasons, or because it would disrupt our country.

The reasons that were given were that this was a farce and it was no ones business. To revise or twist and spin on that now is the height of disengenous BS. I defended Clinton. I will defend Weiner. We are not the party of scolds and morally bullshit artists.

Neither should have been punished, neither should have been pressured to resign. One of them was protected by his party and the other wasn't.
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #165
166. I'm admittingly saying this is political and not about ethics per se...
Weiner had to resign because of him making the Dems look bad. Comparing this to '98 is apples to oranges as far as public opinion and politics.

If Obama did what Clinton did he probably would be removed.

Weiner is an idiot and deserves what he's getting. Why would he ever think putting shit on Twitter wouldn't come back on him?

Maybe we need to require politicians to be neutered.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 03:54 AM
Response to Reply #166
170. I think it's 90% of Democrats in congress making the party look bad.
If those voted along the same lines as Weiner, the party would be much stronger, and something worth making sacrifices for. What makes the party look worse: non-puritanical sexual thought-crimes, or condoning wars of aggression, wire-tapping, torture, and illegal prisons? I'll go with option II.
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #170
171. oh So politicians can harass women on Twitter as long as they support
The agenda you like?

Weiner is either a sexual deviant or a moron...I'm sure we will survive without him.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #171
173. I don't think anyone was harassed.
You do know that there's a difference between flirtation and harassment, right? As far as being "a sexual deviant" goes... I'm just sorry for your sexual partners.
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #173
174. well it sure bordered on sexual harassment to send pictures of his
Cock to women. I'm not opposed to nudity but showing your erect dick to women you aren't in a sexual relationship with is pretty menacing.

I don't know if he is deviant or just stupid to do this and think it is private. Or is he just an a-hole?
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #174
175. Don't you think this is why it's private?
If the women didn't mind, it's completely ok. Nothing even remotely illegal went on. There is no reason you or I should know about it. The a-holes are the ones who would make it a public matter.
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #175
176. but it's not private..putting it on Twitter makes it no longer private...
I know a lot of DU progressives are defending Weiner on privacy grounds but I know if this was say Rick Santorum I doubt you'd be defending his privacy.

Why would Weiner do this and not think it'd get out?

Also if there's nothing wrong with what he did and it is private then why did he lie about it and not just say it was a private matter?

Are you saying it is ok for politicians to lie and expect to be trusted to do what they say they will?
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #176
177. Yes, I'm saying that it's ok for anyone to lie to the public about their sex life...
I would defend any politician's privacy, so long as it didn't involve illegal or hypocritical acts.

I do very much trust Anthony Weiner. I don't know that he's ever lied about how he would vote in congress, which is far more than I can say about almost every other congressman. He is one of the most honest, and instead of being ridiculed, should be held up as a model.
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #177
178. that still doesn't answer the question..
If there is nothing wrong with what he did and it is just a private matter then why didn't he say it was a private matter and instead crete an elaborate lie?

Why should he not resign as Republicans who did the same thing did?

I really don't want liberalism to be the ideology that allows politicians to do anything they want as long as they buy our votes with social spending.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #178
180. Just speculation here:
He lied about it because he didn't want a media circus to get people like you so riled up that you can't stop posting stuff on message boards about how it's so terrible that he flirts with women online. He did nothing illegal. If you don't think you'd like him personally, I don't think that matters. If you wouldn't want him to represent you, don't vote for him if he lives in your district. He did nothing illegal, and is incredibly good at doing HIS JOB, which is all we should know about him. What does he like for lunch? I don't give a shit. What sports does he like? I don't give a shit. What sexual fetishes does he have? I don't give a shit, just like people I work with or for shouldn't give a shit about my standing on such things.
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #180
181. exactly...you don't care what politicians do as long as they
Satisfy the wants and needs you deem to be the greatest good. Spoken like a true utilitarian. Government is not "just a job" it is a method of force and necessary evil. I don't want it run by psychopathic and egotistical liars. You may not care but someone should.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 03:46 AM
Response to Reply #181
182. sorry... is this the only congressman you've ever heard anything about?
He is about the most sane, least egotistical, of the entire lot. Have you seen these other people? They are fucking nuts. I wouldn't even know where to begin.... just pick almost any one of them to look at, and you'll find shit that's a million times worse than Weiner. He is one of the few who actually votes in the interest of his constituents, and doesn't lie about how he will vote for the purpose of getting elected.

Why should someone care about government not being just a job? Because you deem it so? Elected officials are just doing jobs that we need to have done in our society. One day they will go back to being ordinary people again. I know that they're not magic. This is why we have a democracy and overthrew a monarchy. Some people understand that a king (or a president, or congressmen) aren't magical things with divine powers from god, but just people doing jobs.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #29
55. Unless you are one of his constituents
WTF do you care?

He did nothing illegal! Get it!
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #55
72. Are you one of his constituents?
According to your profile you are not. Why is it that people who are not his constituents and oppose his actions are not supposed to "care" about them or even give an opinion but those who support him are not held to that standard?
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:19 PM
Response to Reply #72
109. Because I would love to
have a person who actually represented me. I work my ass off every two year to get rid of 'dinosaur flatulence', 'Iraq should pay US' dana rohrabacher. It would be a dream come true. Weiner was/is a passionate, progressive voice that NOT ONE of us can afford to lose w/ the current tea baggin' congress.
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 04:51 PM
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179. Weiner is pretty damn egotistical if he thinks we can't survive without him..
You're over blowing how much power a single Congressman has.

Weiner is a freaking moron.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:45 AM
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64. there wouldn't be a soul left in DC if lying was a reason to quit
lying about getting caught having text sex is hardly in the same ballpark as the lies we get fed every fucking day by those same sanctimonious assholes in power and their enablers in the media
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #64
138. I feel the same way it seems
the only ones who quit are the ones who get caught lying. And only the dems...the repubs for as moral as they say they are encourage members to repent go to church and stay in office!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:04 PM
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97. Bush lied about war, about killing people, about Valerie Plame, about
eavesdropping, about just about everything in his life or his government. But Weiner goes because he lied about a personal matter.

Nancy Pelosi refused to impeach Bush. Now she shows Weiner the exit door.

Where are Nancy Pelosi's priorities?

What a prig she is. How can San Francisco put up with her?
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #29
144. hello &
goodbye :hi:
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #29
151. You've never lied about your sex life?
You'd happily openly discuss your sex life with all of your colleagues? You'd report it to the media? What he said is covered under freedom of speech - he didn't lie under oath. If you can name me more than 5 congressmen who haven't lied while in office, or while campaigning, I'd be amazed. Most congressmen lie about why they want the job, and go on to lie about what they'll do when they have that job. Weiner never lied about those things. We see politicians on tv every week, and almost every single time, we know they're lying. Why is that ok? Why should you care what he lied about if it was part of his personal life? If he said that he screwed his wife 5 times a week, but really he only screwed her twice a month, would you want him to resign?
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:39 AM
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79. Another difference is notoriety
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 11:42 AM by loyalsister
The entire country was not familiar with Vitter - Weiner has served as a national spokesman. That increases partisan damage. Vitter owned up and the story went away. Weiner finally owned up and the story keeps getting worse. He is a liability. He is finally considering the greater good as far as re-election and getting a Democratic message out without distraction.
He is NOT being censured or punished. He screwed up in his job he's moving on.
It's up to republicans to decide if they want to keep Vitter. He's their idiot.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:42 PM
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125. Uhm... no
Vitter did not "own up" right away. He stalled and hoped it would go away and when the evidence was about to come out he preempted with a stupid mea culpa and the media let it die because he was a republican. Considering the wild kinkiness of his particular involvements and the illegality I am surprised he wasn't knocked out.

Weiner was crucified by his own party because we was a strong voice for the left. The Blue dogs are minus a bunch of seats in the house and they need an easy seat they can take. My advise to democrats from Weiner's district, show these bastards up and find someone to the left of Weiner.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:21 PM
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167. Seconded.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:06 AM
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46. No loser thinking is excusing your bad behavior or choices because somebody else did the same.
I told my kid to own her brilliance and her stupidity. Good choices and behavior should be rewarded while consequences should be expected for stupidity. It's juvenile thinking to try and avoid consequences for stupidity and the arrogance of power just because somebody else does it.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:50 PM
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128. consequences
are very relative. Your kid will learn that the hard way. :shrug:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:02 PM
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94. It is a matter of prioritizing values.
Bush should have been impeached. Nancy Pelosi and others in Congress were too frightened to do that. Now they pick on Weiner. What cowards they are.
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:21 PM
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111. To which 95% of people will say "Who is David Vitter?"
Two or three sentences into your explanation of the Vitter scandal their eyes will glaze over as they regret asking the question. Weiner shot himself in the ass with his own dick. Another Democrat will represent his district.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:51 PM
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153. So doing what is right makes you a "loser." I see.
I for one am a Democrat who does not want to roll around in the gutter with the Rethugs. That's one reason why I am a Democrat. Democrats are better than that.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:11 AM
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13. really?
You know, it's not something I especially want to advertise, but I've sent numerous lewd messages over the internet with other consenting adults. If anyone ever brought that up to me at work, or insinuated that doing so would have an effect on my job performance, I wouldn't think that it was I who had the problem, but them.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:47 AM
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35. Did you find those women using an official twitter account from work? Did you offer to help cover up
evidence using office resources?
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SylviaD Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #35
40. You're right...
and he did have to go. But it's sad and the gloating coming from the right is offensive.

Weiner...why, why, WHY??????

I am beyond sad.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:11 AM
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48. He did not have to go
Other politicians have done far worse and kept their seats and offices with NO punishment and miniscule political backlash. Had we an ounce of courage we would have stated this is a consenting relation between adults and it is no ones damned business!
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:35 AM
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59. Bullshit
He does not have to go. The gloating from the rong is over the top hypocrisy, which should surprise NO one! It is the constant drum beat from the whorporate media, which seems to delight in dogging ANY strong progressive voice, that completely galls me.

IOKIRDI!
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:32 PM
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148. "official twitter account" - El-Oh-El!!!
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neoralme Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:01 AM
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43. Then you would be wrong, imo.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:33 PM
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149. is your private life (especially your sex life) part of your job description? nt.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:31 AM
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58. consenting
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #13
62. You don't want to advertise it, but you just bragged about it.
Feh!
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:02 AM
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9. Fuck
One of the best representative we had pushing for us.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:06 AM
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12. What about Vitter? n/t
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:13 AM
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14. If this is true...I hope he runs again.
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mikeyDE Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:13 AM
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15. forget breitbart
It's the Democratic leadership who are celebrating, another vocal progressive they don't have to worry about. Who will they go after next? Kucinich?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:13 AM
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16. I can't see a good alternative to this.
Was it blown out of proportion? Probably.

Was it completely avoidable? Certainly.

Is Weiner replaceable? Sure.
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:15 AM
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50. "Is Weiner replaceable? Sure."
That has been my point since this crap started.

Yes - he was a good Congressman. Yes - he was a strong progressive voice.

And YES - he is a fucking idiot that sent out nude\provocative pics (that were taken in official offices\gyms of Congress) to multiple people (not hiding identity at all) AND then lied and accused others of perpetrating the action in order to bring him down.


There will be dozens of people that can replace him in his district - I guarantee there are a few people in NY State House that would like a chance to move up to the Majors.


Wiener is not a bad person, but he fucked up PUBLICLY and tried to cover it up with false accusations. It is not a bad thing that he go - Personally, I think that it shows that our side holds our elected reps to a higher standard and that is not a bad thing.


Defending the Congressman at this stage is JUST LIKE when Bush 41 stated, 'right or wrong, I will never apologize for the United States'. It was stupid when he said it - it is just as stupid to defend Wiener at this stage.

Let someone else get in and get to work.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:35 AM
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60. The same people who elected Weiner will be voting
for his replacement. All that's needed is a good, progressive candidate with a clean nose. Surely there are some of those in his district.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:13 AM
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74. His district is being eliminated because of redistricting anyway.
It doesn't really matter who gets elected because they will be out of job very soon.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:28 PM
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116. so he was expendable
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #74
126. Awesome (sarchasm)
So now the moderate corporate friendly candidate that the Democrats will field will have no competition from angry liberal upstarts looking to chake up the system.

Great.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:14 AM
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18. Damn! So much for the democrates protecting their own...
So why don't they start calling for Vitter's resignation? What the hell?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:16 AM
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20. BFEE Wins
Again.

FUCK!
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:16 AM
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21. So will Boehner, Vitter, and the rest of the rethug slime be resigning too?
Oh right, they aren't Democrats, so they get a free pass from their own party and the press.

This will continue to happen until the Democratic party grows a fucking spine.
Disgusting.
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Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:16 AM
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22. So what about Vitter?
So what about Vitter and other Republican horn dogs who actually (allegedly) committed a crime, not simply a moral failing? When do they resign? What about Boehner who is now answering to the media about his multiple extra-marital affairs? When is the press and morons in Washington gonna have some guts and demand consistency? They are swallowing their own Kool Aid by believing in the moral superiority of Republicans.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:17 AM
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23. It's about time. Lies and false accusations have consequences.
n/t
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Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:20 AM
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27. consequences?
If you believe that, then you must believe in the same consequences for the same acts committed by others. It is not about judgement, it is about consistency. Those who demand to be judges and judge others turn a blind eye when it comes to judging others. That is the issue, that Weiner is subject to "consequences" while others get a free pass.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:26 AM
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28. Of course i believe in the same consequences for the same acts.
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 09:26 AM by robcon
It's not the sexting, or any sex acts: it's the coverup - lies and especially false accusations.
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AlanAdam Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:49 AM
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38. Especially the false accusations
I truly believe that this would have blown over if the Congressman wouldn't have made the false accusations. That was completely unacceptable, regardless of what anyone thinks of Breitbart. At that point he had to go.
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Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:35 AM
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61. I'm with ya
The lies and deception was deplorable. WTF was he thinking?
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:46 AM
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34. Mushroom clouds & anthrax ?
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:19 AM
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24. Indict Clarence Thomas. n/t
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:52 AM
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66. Thomas has LIED?????
:sarcasm:
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:19 AM
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26. I think we knew this day was coming...
and what a sad state of affairs it is..too.
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think Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:32 AM
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30. Suggestion for the Dem leadership in DC: NO MORE PASSES FOR REPUBLICANS nt
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 09:34 AM by think
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Yon_Yonson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:48 AM
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36. I am always flabbergasted at what the DEMS allow the REPUBs to get away it
I can only attribute it to a lack of gonads! Stand up an fight back, go on the offensive!
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 02:09 PM
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156. it's almost like they'd rather deal with the GOP than with liberal Dems and their demands
but if that were true, Pelosi would've taken Bush's impeachment off the table while blasting Cynthia McKinney, and Obama would've said we need to look forward and not back if you were a war criminal, but reverse himself if you were a whistleblower
good thing those things didn't happen, huh?!
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bongbong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:39 AM
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31. Conspiracy
It's just the results of a conspiracy to get rid of anybody pro-Middle Class and pro-America.

They gerrymandered Kuchinich's district out of existence. They targetted Grayson & Feingold. They wellstoned Wellstone & possibly JFK Jr (a pre-emptive strike).

We are not approaching a Corporate State - we're in the middle of one.
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miyazaki Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:46 AM
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33. if you tweet your meat, you lose your seat.
lol, saw that somewhere.
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Yon_Yonson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:50 AM
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39. It's poetic!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:28 AM
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56. Turns out to be true.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:49 AM
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37. In response, Sen. David Vitter issued a statment..."It's about time!"
"Say 'GoodNites,' Tony! We can't continue to Pampers those in Congress who do this kind of thing! He'll just have to Pull-Ups himself and work to win back the Luvs and respect of his fellow Americans!"
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:59 AM
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41. Very unhappy with this news.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:59 AM
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:01 AM
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44. I'm Sure the conservative Dems are so happy to see him go
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 10:02 AM by fascisthunter
we know whose side you are on... you eliminated another progressive/liberal, and when shit gets really bad, YOU WILL BE BLAMED.... so will your BS centrist ideology.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:15 AM
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52. That's their plan. He's too progressive for their traditional Republican agenda. nt
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:14 AM
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49. I guess that bullet-to-the-head threat wasn't worth it for him. nt
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:15 AM
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51. I wish I wasn't LOL'ing at your sig video....
this is shitty news.

but not unexpected.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:18 AM
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53. He shouldn't resign, but....
....he is one dumb ass for posting his penis on line and sending such nonsense to strangers. What a clown. Wait....maybe he should resign?
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:45 AM
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63. So sad...
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:49 AM
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65. The real blame lays at the feet of Democrats and DUers who have
once again helped to push out another progressive. I have watched this happen for over 48 years and we have no one to blame but ourselves that our ideals get no where. We are letting the rethugs pull the strings. Playing their game.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:53 AM
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68. Yep, honestly I am sick of it. I wish those Dems would just join the GOP.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:01 AM
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:21 AM
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75. Yes. Because the real blame couldn't be on that idiot Weiner. Tweeting your dick
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 11:22 AM by cottonseed
to the world is very very dumb -- career ending dumb. Oh by the way, Weiner was the one that resigned. DU didn't do it for him.
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Taft_Bathtub Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:31 AM
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78. Enjoy the corporate wall street democrat that takes his place
Also a sex scandal, in politics?!? MY GOODNESS. He didn't even sleep with anyone. He did nothing illegal.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:31 PM
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118. Am I the ONLY one concerned with blackmail?
Clearly, he demonstrated he was willing to lie to the entire world until he HAD to admit the truth. I have NO reason to think someone willing to do that would not also be susceptible to being blackmailed. Had he come out and fessed up right away, I would have been cool. His lying blatant lying changed all that.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:27 PM
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146. really? that's where you think the REAL blame lies?
:rofl:
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:52 AM
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67. Sad. Hope the stupid puritans are happy. But hey, republicans that do worse stay in office!
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 10:52 AM by krabigirl
But that's ok! /s of course
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FreeBillClinton Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:00 AM
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69. I do not support Weiner's resignation.
He should have stayed.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:11 AM
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73. Vitter, Vitter, Vitter...RushThugs, why is he STILL there??????
Hypocrites.

And AW...man, I loved ya. And I would have loved ya if you had sent me some pics of the Weiner.

But my fiery friend, you were ELECTED to a position in our country, that had POWER and CONTROL over our lives...to be relevant and believable, you simply cannot do this kind of sh*t.

So it's good bye...You've got a lot of work to do for your family.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:25 AM
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76. How many nails left...
...clinging to that rock ledge? We're hanging over the abyss - hoping for a miracle (and I don't BELEIVE in Miracles).
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:29 AM
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77. He didn't play nice with........
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 11:30 AM by JJW
He didn't play nice with war criminals and corporate shills.

And then he revealed his penis to willing women in private, necessitating a resignation. Our society is ashamed of the body part called the penis.

Bill Clinton actually had sex, lied in court about it, obstructed justice but his penis wasn't revealed to the public, so he got to remain President.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:50 AM
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80. Because losing a progressive vote isn't worth the...wait, what isn't it worth again? nt
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 11:50 AM by valerief
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:54 AM
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81. Rep. Weiner To Resign Today
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 11:04 AM by Botany
Source: NPR

Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) plans to resign from Congress today.

The news broke a short time ago when The New York Times sent out an alert that Weiner "has told friends that
he plans to resign his seat." It cited "a person told of Mr. Weiner's plans" as its source.

CNN followed with confirmation from its own sources. And The Associated Press reports it has been told by sources
that "Weiner is telling associates he will resign." ABC News says it has been told that Weiner informed House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of his decision last night.

news conference that she would not be taking any questions about Weiner. "My understanding is that later in the day he
will be having a press conference," she said, "and after that I will have a statement available." She said on Monday that it
was in Weiner's best interest "to leave Congress."]

Read more: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/06/16/137204529/reports-rep-weiner-to-resign-today



dog gone?

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Agent William Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:54 AM
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82. Looks like the Democrats finally stood for something...
And got it... Wow, one of the true firebrand liberals is gone, and all so house democrats can be sanctimonious...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:54 AM
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83. And lean more right of center.
That's what they want. Down with Weiner and now they will double their efforts on Kucinich.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:54 AM
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84. Kucinich is losing his district due to redistricting anyway.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:54 AM
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86. Yes, in Ohio, but he's probably going to move someplace
he can win and run in that district. The last I heard he was thinking of Washington state.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:26 PM
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169. Man, I sure hope so! We need Dennis around.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:54 AM
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85. He should retweet his underwear photo...
And add 'suck it'!!!

Dems are such wimps.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:54 AM
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88. Or a big middle finder! n/t
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:54 AM
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87. I've had to re read the DU rules several times today
I don't think I've ever been more tempted to post things that might violate the rules and I want to avoid doing that.

So I just won't post what I'm thinking about our congressional party leader and our DNC chairman and a few others who must be very proud of themselves today.

And I'm sure their opponents across the aisle respect them more for shit canning Rep Weiner.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:59 AM
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89. Nancy Pelosi is a loser.
She dared not impeach Bush for glaring war crimes, but is ready to shed Weiner over his dirty jokes.

She is the joke.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:03 PM
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96. I'm inclined to agree.
I just don't see any other aspect to it. I was among those who celebrated her as the new speaker of the House. I don't know what she did and did not accomplish. So my opinion is weak. But to not even attempt to impeach Bush alone was, and always will be, one of the worst things.

Now with this, I can imagine the country swinging a bit more to the conservative side.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:00 PM
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91. Good.
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Bladian Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:07 PM
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99. Oh for the love of...
What a load of horse shit. Maybe if our "liberal" leaders weren't afraid of a true progressive this wouldn't be happening. I can't believe this, I thought he was going to stick it out. Although I guess when the president, a man who you thought was pretty liberal himself, essentially tells you to step down, there's not much you can do. I hope the Dems are happy. Really, I hope they are. Bastards.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:10 PM
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101. BREAKING: Justice Thomas to resign over allegations of conflict of interest
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 12:10 PM by RufusTFirefly
Oops! Wrong universe.

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savannah43 Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:13 PM
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104. You got me all excited for a few seconds.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:22 PM
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112. Sorry about my phony headline.
We all know that stuff like that rarely -- if ever -- happens, alas.

I find solace in the multi-verse theory of the universe because it means that somewhere Justice Thomas has resigned and George W. Bush is being tried for war crimes.
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savannah43 Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:33 PM
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122. Please don't apologize. I'm twisted, too.
I love a good snark.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:10 PM
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102. HAPPY DOUBLE STANDARD DAY, everyone!
n/t
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:13 PM
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103. Shameful
I am so sorry that this had to happen. Anthony Weiner was an outspoken friend of the downtrodden. I loved to listen to his comments because he was one of the few Congressmen with the guts to stand up for what he believed. Another was Alan Grayson, and he's gone, too. I'm still waiting for David Vitter to resign, but I guess that's hoping for too much.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:17 PM
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106. Pelosi should be the one resigning.
War crimes and WMD lies can be swept under the rug but some guy putting a picture of his dick on the internet? He must go now!

Fucking useless nitwit. The day she finally leaves public life will be a wonderful day.
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The Nexus Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:20 PM
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110. The Winner: Andrew Breitbart. NT
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 02:28 PM
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158. Even bigger winners: Clarence and Ginni Thomas
Conflict of interest? What conflict of interest?

Tax fraud? What tax fraud?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:26 PM
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114. yaya for the Conservative Democrats.... yay!!!!
the ones fucking our country and our party... yay!
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libmom74 Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:29 PM
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117. Score one for the Corporate Money Party.
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Scottybeamer70 Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:31 PM
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119. Pelosi, et.al, have shown their true colors.........
Now when they take down Boehner, guess who is waiting in the wings to replace him...........Kantor?..........nahhhhhhh....couldn't be.
I'm am so sorry they have sacrificed Mr. Weiner for their own gain. I wish he would have stayed. Hopefully his life will be a bit
simpler now that he doesn't have to put up with all the nonsense in DC. I wish him well.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:59 PM
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137. There's plenty there for the Coporations. For the rest of us, not so much.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:46 PM
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127. well i knew this was gonna happen, it's really hard to defend weiner


since he was going to be worthless because he'd be booted from committee and consistently rebuked by his fellow house members and even the democratic leadership was too embarrassed to stand with him. honestly do you think that it'd be wise for pelosi, hoyer, etc. to defend Weiner's presence when Republicans would use this incident to talk trash about the Democrats all the way to the next presidential election?
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:50 PM
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129. Weiner to resign after 'sexting' scandal, source says
Source: cnn

Rep. Anthony Weiner of New York will heed calls from across the political spectrum and resign over a "sexting" scandal that he lied about before admitting his involvement, a Democratic source with knowledge of the congressman's plans said Thursday.

Weiner has scheduled a 2 p.m. news conference in his home district, and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said she planned to issue a statement on her Democratic colleague after that.

"He is going to make an announcement," Pelosi said. "I am not going to predicate any remarks on a decision that we haven't heard yet."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/16/weiner.scandal/index.html
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:50 PM
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130. This is probably the best thing he can do if he wants to continue his career in Politics
I highly doubt this is the last we'll see of Weiner. He's only 47 and in 5 years he could be primed to run for office again - better and stronger than before.

He stays in office he's a liability to be used against us in the election. I'd rather be the party that holds their members acountable than the one that turns their heads the other way. But that's just me.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:50 PM
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131. The only thing
scandalous is the way the whorporate media kept it in the 'news'.
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:50 PM
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132. You got it, watch this for proof:
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:50 PM
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135. Thanks. That underscores the bullshit that this story really is.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:06 PM
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141. That is eye-opening. It shows how low the media has become
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 01:06 PM by mvd
They would NOT drop this for a second because he's a progressive Democrat. The mainstream media is primarily right wing info-tainment. Now Weiner isn't blameless and I can see the distraction he was becoming, but our party needs to go after Repukes like this.
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:50 PM
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133. Now will Pelosi et al be going after the other other
dirtbags in congress about their lying?

Nope, didn't think so.
Fucking hypocrites.
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LadyHawkAZ Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:50 PM
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134. Sad
Very sad.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:58 PM
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136. A waste of great political talent
I certainly excuse him for being human but he fucked it up.
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:03 PM
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139. More to this than we are allowed to know...
I've seen this act played before.
It's an old pattern... criminals in action:
bribery, extortion, blackmail, racketeering, assassination...
Pick one.
Think you live in the land of the free and the home of the brave?
Keep on dreaming the dream... while the oligarchs dance on our bones.
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Jon Ace Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:26 PM
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145. I can't believe those hecklers...
Sickening to know some of those people are my neighbors.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 11:53 AM
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183. Amerika has fallen to a new low, along with Faux, which was flogging the story to death Fri. night
Weiner resigned, so give it a rest, you Faux news anchors.
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Nossida Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 02:56 PM
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160. Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish.
It didn't need to go this way Congressman.
Had you told the truth from day 1, the
American People would have supported you
for being an Honest Man. You strung every
one out like going thru Drug Withdraw.

See Congressman,
That 'All Seeing Eye' you Bastards have given
the American People works both ways. Enough of
you, now just go away.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 03:00 PM
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162. The man finally did something right.
finally this bizarre circus is over.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:24 PM
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168. The circus is far from over.
Not until we have a majority of legislators batting for the middle class.

If Medicare were a person, Medicare wouldn't give a tinker's dam about anyone's genitalia. Maybe in a few centuries, we'll evolve. Until then, I send good mojo to my peeps in District 9 - I hope they find a heavy hitter like Anthony to run for his seat.
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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 10:22 AM
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172. I think you're inflating Weiner's importance.
Weiner was lying and deceitful, he could've just said "It's none of your business" but he lied so easily and without regret.Yet you're basically saying the middle class and Medicare solvency requires that be overlooked.

As Hamilton said "power over a man's sustenance is power over his will."
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 02:20 AM
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184. ^ Not that Medicare solvency 'requires' that be overlooked.
But that it's trivial. But this milk is already spilled and mopped. Regardless of the scandal, we need to undo the bad 2010 turnout and take the House.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:50 AM
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185. How would you know how easy it was for him to lie, or that he had no regret?
And, yes, Weiner was important. For one thing, he was one of few outspoken classic Democrats left in federal government. For another, he was challenging freakin' Clarence Thomas.


BTW, did you agree with Bubba's impeachment?
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