White House admits marijuana has ‘some’ medical value

[DreamSmoker]

Source: Raw Story

Just days after the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) insisted that there is no medical value to marijuana, the White House appeared to contradict the position, saying in a report that there may actually be "some" medical value to "individual components of the cannabis plant" after all.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/11/white-house-admits-marijuana-has-some-medical-value/

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Here is just more that backs the real Fact the the DEA is self serving and has no creditability to Schedule any Drugs what so ever..
All its Info and Stats used are purely based on Criminal Sats which are Bogus..

And the insanity just keep going and going..
Meanwhile the Arrests, Confiscations, and Incarcerations Of Americans continues with a new head of steam from the Obama Administration...
They appear to not let facts get in the way....

So this is a War between the Power of the People and Government Policy...
Not a war on Drugs at all...
Always remember Cannabis is a Plant and not a Drug. It cannot be Patented either because this is fact..
The DEA schedule List even allows Coca Leaves, But Cannabis is right with Heroin with no use what so ever..

[JAnthony]

1. Can they use it on Republicans ??? That might help get this

debt deal going!!!

[ZombieHorde]

2. Yes, marijuana has some medical value, as opposed to a magical pancea.

All functional medicine has some medical value.

[defendandprotect]

4. All plants have a medical value -- they are, in fact, our drugs -- !!!

There are no drugs without plants!!

And they are regularly destroyed and the knowledge of them destroyed

before we can even record or understand their value --


Keep in mind Nature is pro-choice -- and provided endless ways for women to

control reproduction -- serving as birth control and ways to create abortion --

even ending pregnacies in still births -- and allowing women to terminate fertilit y

whenever they wished -- among other things!


Like all of our other natural resources, they are under the control of elites/corporations --

and the public has been cut off from them.

[ZombieHorde]

5. Great reply. nt

[defendandprotect]

6. Keep in mind, simply planting HEMP would help the Ozone Layer -- !!!

So when we talk about Marijuana there is no question that it is also

a medicine --

and we probably even don't know at this point all its uses --

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

21. Great post...

... I agree with you. I have from time to time gotten on a google/wikipedia journey of following related links on look ups I do. And just about everything on the pharmacy shelves are a synthesized version of what can be found naturally, ie... valium/valarian root et al

on edit: typo

[felix_numinous]

33. defendandprotect

:yourock:

[Romulox]

12. Lame comment, considering we have an entire Federal agency devoted to persecuting

anyone who would dare use this "medicine".

Perhaps some of your snark should be reserved for the Drug Warriors, hmmm? :hi:

[ZombieHorde]

13. My snark was directed at the "Drug Warriors."

No medicine is a magical panacea, so saying marijuana has "some" medical benefits is using semantic trickery.

I am very much for marijuana. I think marijuana is awesome.

[defendandprotect]

3. White House is playing the "Drug War" game and telling lies to do it --

[meow mix]

7. +rec

[gateley]

8. If, God forbid, one of those who are making the decisions

becomes afflicted with one of the conditions that benefits greatly from marijuana and finds relief, maybe then they would start paying attention to the reports from those who use it.

[No Elephants]

27. If the people responsible for enforcement don't use marijuana, I'd be very surprised.

Medicinal AND recreational uses.

Hypocrisy is no stranger to goverment in general or law enforcement in particular.

[buckrogers1965]

30. Ever watch a marijuana burn by local PD?

They burn huge piles of MJ with the entire PD standing around the bond fires.

[RainDog]

35. that's what happened with the Attn. Gen. of Utah

unfortunately, he had to deal with cancer himself to understand the value to patients undergoing cancer treatment. he says he didn't use it himself but spoke with other patients who went out-of--state to acquire medicine that his own state is too stupid to allow.

[AlbertCat]

9. I don't care if it does or doesn't....

The two legal drugs of alcohol and tobacco have no medical use and they are legal and both cause more problems than pot.

I saw this National Geo program late Sunday night: "Drugged: High on Marijuana". It was lame. They tried so hard to make it dangerous but simply sounded stupid. "The THC hijacks your brain... LIKE A TERRORIST!!!!"
Pu-leeze.

They show people getting stoned and talk about what goes on in your body and brain. "it lowers your blood pressure, so your heart responds by pumping faster IF YOU HAVE HEART PROBLEMS THIS COULD BE DANGEROUS!!!!!" Yeah, well exercising, like running, also increases your heart rate. Should the general public be worried about that?

Then there's this whole perception sequence where some guys walking out in the woods after eating magic cookies are having a kinda amusing stoned moment where they have to jump over a small creek. Of course they do with no injuries.... so what's the problem?

Then they talk to a girl who has smoked about any psycho effects. She says "I feel like I'm in two places at once". Then they come back with "She thought she was in two places at once"..see PSYCHOSIS!!!! But she didn't think she was in 2 places at once, she FELT LIKE she was in 2 places at once, but clearly didn't actually believe it.

Lastly we see a (lame) guy who just couldn't stop smoking: ADDICTION!!!!!! Except, he sure seemed weak willed to me. And the "problem" wasn't he couldn't function or anything. It's just his fiancee wanted him to stop. It turns out the symptoms of WITHDRAWAL!!!! consist of a week or two of irritability and insomnia, which pass, and the only danger here was... relapse.

Boy... I'm all scared now.... :eyes:

[liberation]

10. It helps presidents during their teen years apparently.

[No Elephants]

28. Hillary, is that you?

jk

[liberation]

31. Both Obama and Mr. Clinton did toke a few in their youth

and I am sure Bush Jr did smoke his share (as well as other drugs).

Maybe Hillary would be president right now if she hadn't been an upright College Republican.


If only these individuals had gotten the mellowing,enlightening, and conscious-expanding experiences out of their reefer smoking, rather than the "I will become a major league hypocrite when I grow up" side effect.

[Enthusiast]

11. I think this admission is one of

those "crumbs" we hear of on DU. Well, I'm not voting for Obama if he fucking legalizes marijuana and passes out free joints.

[kenichol]

14. It's time to end the prohibition of cannabis

Too many lives have been ruined...this has become a major passion as I now am 60 years old, worked for years at a cancer treatment center.

[duhneece]

15. Too many young men and women had lives devestated

I know men and women have been raped in prison when they were doing time for cannabis-related 'crimes.' No more.

[defendandprotect]

18. Looks like RAPE is a new prison industry business ... !!!

Notice the sexual pervisons that rise as the rightwing rises -- ALWAYS!!!

[RainDog]

16. gotcha covered in GD, too. :) k&r

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1470846

[oNobodyo]

17. If it wasn't for pot being illegal then the DEA wouldn't need to be

...as large as it is...They're only protecting their jobs...Institutional inertia at it's finest.

[defendandprotect]

19. Rather than goverment of the people, we have authoritarian rule -- body cavity searches next?

Elites rule by hierarchies --

even our colleges and universities have been made corporate and branches of MIC --

In fact, even our highschools now are recruiting centers to ensnare teenagers!!

[krabigirl]

20. Of course! just in time for big pharma to package it in some pill or spray.

[cstanleytech]

22. The government should pull its head out of its

ass imo and just regulate and tax it like liquor or beer rather than fight whats clearly a losing battle both in time and money.

[christx30]

23. two reasons why they won't:

Big pharma needs the money from their version, which will be half as effective, and twice as expensive as pot
And there is more money in jailing people for the cultivation and use of it. The private prison industry wants to get as many people behind bars as possible.

[No Elephants]

29. Third and fourth reasons: MJ possession busts are easier than a lot of other busts.

They boost the statistics of law enforcement, like prostitution busts and, in the old days, raids on gay bars. Easy collars.

And, American has never gotten, and may never get, over the prudishness of the Puritans.

[RainDog]

37. here is a substance with valid claims via the best research

that appears to KILL CANCER CELLS - and this nation is too invested in demonizing this substance to work to benefit the people of this nation.

btw, the way that cannabis seems to kill cancer cells (tho I don't know the entire process) is this: the cancer cells, just like our healthy cells, have cannabinoid receptors (because we naturally produce cannabinoids throughout our bodies.) the cannabis cannabinoids, it seems, attach to the mitochondria - the part of the cell that converts energy into nucleotides that regulate biochemical pathways - and cuts off mitochondrial access to the things they need to allow the cancer cells to do their thing. at the same time, the cannabinoids do not hurt healthy cells (unlike chemo or radiation therapy)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20516734

Cannabinoids inhibit cellular respiration of human oral cancer cells.

BACKGROUND AND PURPOSE:

The primary cannabinoids, Delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (Delta(9)-THC) and Delta(8)-tetrahydrocannabinol (Delta(8)-THC) are known to disturb the mitochondrial function and possess antitumor activities. These observations prompted us to investigate their effects on the mitochondrial O(2) consumption in human oral cancer cells (Tu183). This epithelial cell line overexpresses bcl-2 and is highly resistant to anticancer drugs.

EXPERIMENTAL APPROACH:

A phosphorescence analyzer that measures the time-dependence of O(2) concentration in cellular or mitochondrial suspensions was used for this purpose.

KEY RESULTS:

A rapid decline in the rate of respiration was observed when Delta(9)-THC or Delta(8)-THC was added to the cells. The inhibition was concentration-dependent, and Delta(9)-THC was the more potent of the two compounds. Anandamide (an endocannabinoid) was ineffective; suggesting the effects of Delta(9)-THC and Delta(8)-THC were not mediated by the cannabinoid receptors. Inhibition of O(2) consumption by cyanide confirmed the oxidations occurred in the mitochondrial respiratory chain. Delta(9)-THC inhibited the respiration of isolated mitochondria from beef heart.

CONCLUSIONS AND IMPLICATIONS:

These results show the cannabinoids are potent inhibitors of Tu183 cellular respiration and are toxic to this highly malignant tumor.

[LetTimmySmoke]

24. It's something. He needs to come out strong against the war on drugs, but this is a start.

[Le Taz Hot]

25. President Change's

opposition to MM is what is fueling the local boys into their MM jihad. Yesterday, our oh-so-religious County Board of Supervisors, with the help of our jihadist oh-so-righteous Sheriff, is in the process of essentially shutting down all 13 dispensaries. AND they've put so many restrictions on growing it yourself that a simple homeowner will find it impossible to comply (24/7 live security guards???). This is right-wing religious fundamentalists with a "message from gawda!" who are using Obama's War On Medicine as their way in.

[No Elephants]

26. Here we go again. Trying to have it every which way.

[rayofreason]

32. "medical value" Wine has some too...

...but I prefer the recreational value of both. Yes, there are negative social consequences, but the social consequences of prohibition are worse.

[Uncle Joe]

34. I agree on all counts. n/t

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[sudopod]

38. This is the wrong route to take.

Doesn't matter if it's medicinal, it's dumb to ruin peoples' lives over a harmless plant. Period.

Though if they had a variety that gave people boners, they'd legalize it tomorrow.

[Major Hogwash]

39. Dood, ahm sorry, but there is some medical value, but I forgot because I was really stoked then,

So, like, let me, like, find that one document and I will, like, show you what I mean.
Oh, wow, Cheetos!!