Obama Walks Out of Tense Debt Meeting: Aide

[Hissyspit]

Source: Reuters

Obama walks out of tense debt meeting: aide
Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:12pm EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama abruptly ended a tense budget meeting on Wednesday with Republican leaders by walking out of the room, a Republican aide familiar with the talks said.

The aide said the session, the fourth in a row, was the most tense of the week as House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner, the top Republican in Congress, dismissed spending cuts offered by the White House as "gimmicks and accounting tricks."

(Reporting by Andy Sullivan; Editing by Will Dunham)

Read more: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE7646S620110713?irpc=932

[Booster]

1. Good for him. Now, just stand your ground, Mr. Obama.

[hedgehog]

2. Good!

[EVDebs]

3. Walk out of the next meeting too, and get on a plane to WI ! nt

[PuffedMica]

14. No next meeting until the Republicans put a fair tax increase for the rich on the table

The free ride the rich have enjoyed because of the Bush tax cuts have to come to an end.

[russspeakeasy]

49. Where did he find his walking shoes ???

Now, quit posing and get to work. Election time is fast approaching.

[Yon_Yonson]

52. We can sure use your help Prez Obama right here in Wisconsin

Good now tell those NEOCONS to fuck off ... don't want to talk untill your ready to speak for the American common folk.

[Plucketeer]

90. He's been too busy

to shop for comfortable shoes.... :sarcasm:

[Evasporque]

85. WIsconsin and Minnesota....these are examples of your Government on Republican...

They are messed up. In chaos...it is what the extreme GOP does now...

[Zenlitened]

4. Very encouraging. He's got to be tough as nails here in the final stages..

[EVDebs]

5. He's got the people on his side...does he know it ?

See this link
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x709969

and if BHO caves on SS/medicare he's toast in '12

[certainot]

19. not really. what counts is who is louder at getting the screams on the phones

and 1000 radio stations are the best at that day in and day out (they're called teabaggers/dittoheads).

they've already convinced tens of millions that obama is trying to destroy the economy and that not raising the debt ceiling is no big deal.

limbaugh beats boner and cantor and mcconnell any day. very few republican politicians can last if they cross economist limbaugh, and he's made it clear there is no danger and they'd be traitors.

the GOP is hostage to team limbaugh and whatever radical republicans that think tanking the economy will benefit them. hell, in a national emergency those same 1000 radio stations will still be the loudest single megaphone.

[wordpix]

41. "Congress may be dumb enough to actually default on the debt" It's now just occurring to Wall St.

:banghead: We're talking about the House here, led by repugs

[Kurmudgeon]

42. Don't care what the radio heads say, I barely turn on the tv!

[certainot]

89. RW radio gets a free speech free ride and that's why left has been getting it's ass kicked

the last 20 years.

i'm not saying individuals have to listen, although i think it's good to know when there's an asshole on the corner screaming that i'm a liar and thief and traitor all day long. but it's truly stupid for the collective left and it's orgs to have NO response to it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x613220

[Kurmudgeon]

92. They've tried, unfortuntely the mind set that kind of radio appeals to is conservative.

Scary, isn't it...

[mvd]

6. Boy, it is nice to see a real standoff for a change

Even if it is to the most radical of Repuke ideas. Now raise the debt limit yourself and say the Repukes gave permission, plus saying they aren't willing to compromise at all.

[jtrockville]

7. C'mon Obama. Go all 14th on their asses!!

[Gregorian]

8. Things are looking up.

And I have not given up on Obama. Maybe what he lacks in fire he excels in brains. Actually, this shows some fire.

[Name removed]

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[Hotler]

10. He should have pulled a Cheney and...

told Boner to fuck himself and then walk out. Showing some spine is better than no spine. Good job Mr. Obama.:applause:

[Oceansaway]

11. k & r...nt

[Liberalynn]

12. Mr President

with all due respect, the Republicans are not my friends, they are not the nation's friends, and they are not most certainly your friends. As many have said before you can't negotiate with hostage takers.

Its time to withdraw any and all offers made to them, like a distict attorney would a plea bargain, when the defendant fails to cooperate as promised. If they won't agree to close the tax loopholes for the rich then you should withdraw anything you previously may have offered them as well.

Put the 14th ammendment back into play, period. Raise the debt ceiling period and declare all budget deficit talks over until they PUKES are willing to give and not just get. They can squawk and moan all they like, it is YOUR RIGHT and YOUR DUTY.

I am sincerely sorry this is taking a toll on you but you have to end the madness once and for all, and take the country out of limbo.

JMHO

[ejbr]

13. +1 n/t

[JDPriestly]

61. I agree, Liberalynn

Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress the authority to tax and spend -- in other words to pass budgets. If Congress passes budgets that authorize spending exceeding revenue, then it seems to me nothing more should be necessary. Seems to me the authorization to spend should automatically raise the debt ceiling.

[kenfrequed]

86. Agreed

The president needs to treat these children as just that. Not 'continuing resolutions' which are just ways to take the political sting out of the republicans desire to be obstinate and hold hostage the entire budget. Think about it. A continuing resolution just makes the problem seem to go away while they can still maintain the political capital with their base by "standing up to the president."

Enough!

[Divernan]

15. Politico has quotes from Cantor & Stenny Hoyer

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/58937.html

President Barack Obama abruptly walked out of a debt-limit meeting with congressional leaders Wednesday, throwing into serious doubt the already shaky debt limit negotiations, according to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and a second GOP source.

Cantor said the president became “agitated” and warned the Virginia Republican not to “call my bluff” when Cantor said he would consider a short-term debt-limit hike. The meeting “ended with the president abruptly walking out of the meeting,” Cantor told reporters in the Capitol. “I know why he lost his temper. He’s frustrated. We’re all frustrated.”


Asked if they’d made progress in the lasted of negotiations, House Minority Leader Steny Hoyer said “No.”

“The president is putting a lot of time and energy into getting an agreement, and it’s tough,” Hoyer said.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/58937.html#ixzz1S237ZVvw

[certainot]

21. there are places in every state that progressives can go to protest and send repubs a message

the local right wing radio stations which are doing 24/7 "don't raise the debt ceiling" messaging from team lmbaugh.

according to team limbaugh anyone who caves is a traitor. and it won't be god for them.

[riderinthestorm]

26. I actually went and met with Randy Hultgren's rep today at a "town hall style mtg".

It's time to speak up. Even if they are Tea Party Rethug freshman like my rep....

[rosesaylavee]

36. He's mine too...

curious as to if he said anything useful? I haven't had much positive feedback other than someone in his office agreed that NPR and PBS should remain funded. Ok, that was a straw but I was grateful just the same.

[riderinthestorm]

46. I posted about my experience here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1482555

Of course it dropped like a stone on DU but at least I went and tried.

Another Kane Co Dem? :bounce: :hi:

Feel free to PM me. We could go to the next one together and be a double whammy!

[Paka]

65. Thanks for the link.

And thanks for the report. I just recced it. Good job. :thumbsup:

[whathehell]

79. Uh oh....Since the re-distrincting..

It seems that I'm in your district...Prior to that, we had Joe Walsh (a total asshat, IMO)

and before that, Melissa Bean, who was defeated by Walsh by less than 300 votes.

[Historic NY]

27. I'd answer the asshats over there I'd say...the POTUS should go 14th...

and then watch them...lots of idiots on the site.

[No Elephants]

76. Erm, doesn't saying "Don't call my bluff" telegraph that you are bluffing?

Isn't the whole point of bluffing that you want the other side unaware that you are bluffing, or at least unsure?

"I bet twenty dollars."

"I'll see your twenty."

"Don't call my bluff."

How does that poker game come out?

[keopeli]

80. No, it sends the message that you know they think you are bluffing.

And he's saying, don't go there, because if you're wrong and i'm not bluffing, this could be very bad for you.

That's what it says, literally.

[Fla Dem]

83. Of the 1st 20 comments to that article 19 were negative to the President. The wackos are

out in force.

[FailureToCommunicate]

16. The Repubs better have stood when he left the room! (The West Wing

episode here is one of the great ones:

go to about 32:00 mins in for some of the best writing on television of that era.

http://www.videobb.com/video/fnkOY6lNplob

(Thanks for posting this, Hissyspit)

[Tunkamerica]

20. sending people to a quasi-legal site streaming copyrighted material is in poor taste

[FailureToCommunicate]

24. That was not my intent as you well know. Fine, go to the library

and get Season Two Episode 3 "the Midterms"



I was suggesting only a reference to underscore a comment on the OP, NOT to suggest that anyone actually watch something (that was aired on broadcast TV to millions) without credit or compensation to Warner Bros Entertainment.

Poor taste my ass.

[TeaBagsAreForCups]

28. Touche' ....

... +100.

Thanks for the link; I remember that episode well and always get chills when Barlett gets fully into his rant. There's a lot of good content on that site and I, for one, will be engaging in mucho "poor taste" there. And IMO, Nannies are best found in the nursery, not on political boards.

[Tunkamerica]

32. Look if you know it's illegal and do it's one thing.

Sending others to break US law is in poor taste without some sort of warning.

[FailureToCommunicate]

45. Do you really think Warner Bros Entertainment isn't getting every penny

they deserve and have rights to? Really? I worked for years for an in-die record label, so I know a thing or two about intellectual property rights and compensation. WBE is doing just fine with or without the revenue from a dozen or so DUers who might have been duped -by little ol me, - into being 'forced' to click on something from the internet.

The axe you need to grind will sharpen no more on me.
(Bless your heart)

"But we digress..."

[kenfrequed]

88. An interesting method

Of thread hijacking.

[FailureToCommunicate]

91. Again, not my intent. Okay, let's get back to the OP.

(I promise to do better in the future)

[kenfrequed]

95. Actually

I was more objecting to someone elses "concerns."

[elleng]

48. ...

:thumbsdown:

[ret5hd]

94. twit alert

[elleng]

22. Thanks so much, Failure; I watch The West Wing OFTEN, for sanity!

P.S., listening to Lawrence O'D now!
And I wonder how much new Chief of Staff Daley has had to do with the strategy/tactics. I suspect a lot.

[bluestateguy]

31. I know what scene you are talking about

When the president stands, NOBODY sits!

[elleng]

47. "Toby, thats how I beat him."

Bravo, and thanks again, Failure.

[PuffedMica]

17. Keep the pressure on Mr. President, we are all depending on you

We need a victory over the Republicans to keep them in their place. Letting the Pukes win will only encourage them to come back for more.

[PuffedMica]

18. K&R

[cyberpj]

23. Re: A spokesman for Boehner said the move proved the need for cutting spending.

snip
"As Speaker Boehner has warned for months, if the White House does not take action soon to address our nation's debt crisis by reining in spending, the markets may do it for us. This action by Moody's today reinforces the speaker's warning," the spokesman said.


I thought we were going to reframe the tax breaks for the wealthy AS "spending" - to reign in "spending" is also to reign in the tax breaks that HAVE NOT PROVIDED THE JOBS PROMISED.

START CALLING IT TAX SPENDING!

[Beartracks]

25. Extending unwarranted/unaffordable corp welfare is a gimmick. n/t

[bluestateguy]

29. I don't like anonymous sources

Having said that, Obama should start readying the 14th Amendment option, and if need be, even disregarding the Supreme Court.

It didn't damage Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln.

[Marthe48]

30. I emailed the Congressman in my district

Lot a good it'll do, he's a Republican

[Harriety]

33. I don't blame him a bit. I'm amazed he's kept his cool this long.....

While using anger is never a way to solve things, they have pushed him since day one of his presidency. I'm sure they'll call him out on Fox and friends for being uncooperative and un-presidential and sling all that nutso bs they usually do. But the man is human and I think it's OK now to just tell them to just shove it. How could anyone work with a bunch of butt holes like that all the time and try to be nice?

[Amonester]

74. Newsflash: they will call him out on Faux and fiends whatever he does.

It's been like that from day one. Even when he got bin forgotten they called him out saying it was bush's merit. :puke:

[deacon]

77. Well, with murdocks troubles Fox "news" is limping around as a home of corrrupt losers. I'm not too

much worried about them.

[Hubert Flottz]

34. "gimmicks and accounting tricks."

Like the GOP used to help Wall Street destroy the country? The ENRON MO?

[rasputin1952]

35. I wonder if Boehner and Cantor understand that the president...

any president, has more to do than sit around and watch a couple of tap-dancing morons that do little more than trot out the same dumb crap?

Boehner and Cantor are worthless cretins that need instructions printed on toilet paper to figure out how to use the stuff.

One good thing about all of this...it's showing the population how trivial they really are...;)

[butterfly77]

38. And how they have been trying to run out the clock during ..

his first term in office by stalling and playing games like they did with the healthcare bill and other nonsense..

WHERE ARE THE JOBS REPUBLICONS!!!

There so called teabaggers leaders who think that they are the majority of the population aren't,and they are all about trying to get as much money as possible,especially that fat ass women leader who looks like she has gained about 50 to 75 pounds since she started her fake chapter of the teabaggers..

[lovuian]

39. Republicans have to produce a budget

not Obama

Its time and it must pass

then it will be up to Obama

but it will be the Republicans fault if we default

because that is what they want

their pay checks stop ...and they don't have jobs

[Yupster]

53. The House already passed the budget

The senate hasn't passed one yet.

Then they go to conference committee and then each pass one agreed to by both houses.

Then the President signs or vetoes.

None of that has anything to do with the debt limit though.

[newspeak]

57. I'd say that there is a chasm between the repugs

McConnell has been in office for quite a while, but weasels like Rand and Cantor, are like the old nutty John Birchers. They've created a true monster, the tea party. A party for and by the corporations from privatizing social programs to deregulation. Because after all, those honest, moral corporations wouldn't harm the people, especially over any form of profit. Those honest corporations wouldn't bilk the public, would they? Let's face it we got some true sociopaths now in Congress who have egos as wide as the Grand Canyon. And, because their ideology is so Ayn Randian, there is no room for caring about the health and well being of America or its' citizens. They'd sell the whole country out in a heartbeat to any international corporation.

When a democratic president cuts four trillion dollars, some of it on the backs of social programs that are needed more than ever today and the crybabies won't take the deal, you've got some seriously disturbed individuals. There is such a disparity of wealth in this country today and the rich are getting even richer while mega corporations are seeing record profits, and yet, they are not to sacrifice, even though the wars we pay for and fight have made many of them even richer. We have our forefather's warning:Jefferson, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Eisenhower, about the power of corporations and MIC. Corporate power over the citizenry will be the end of the republic and the beginning of a fascistic state. Of course if the corporations have more power than the government, I guess it would then be a corporatocracy-no need for no stinkin government.

[wordpix]

37. GOOD! Let them know YOU're the boss (at least of the exec. branch)

[madrchsod]

40. praise jesus!.... i think obama is finally seeing the light...

fuck boner and his bunch of anti-american zealots

[wordpix]

43. looks like boner won't get another golf game with the pres anytime soon

[grahamhgreen]

44. What does that mean?

[still_one]

50. just exercise the 14th ammendment Mr. President. Enough is enough. I would hope you have gotten

the message that the people you are dealing with not only do not like you, but do not like the American people

[woolldog]

51. I'm ok with a default.

if it means Obama is standing firm on Democratic principles.

Bring it on.

[Swampguana]

54. finally!

Giving me a little more faith

[Kablooie]

55. Once again he's sounding like the guy I thought I voted for.

Keep it up Mr. President!

[Corruption Winz]

56. Good. I don't see how this can be considered anything but good..

Hopefully, this is the start of things. Tax 'em, tax 'em all.

[crim son]

58. Interesting. He appears to be feeling the pressure. n/t

[cliffordu]

59. MISLEADING HEADLINE!

IT'S A REPUBLICAN AIDE THAT CLAIMS THE PREZ WALKED OUT.

I wonder who put that staffer up to this????

Let's review - about a week ago......

Cantor walks out, but gets no traction, and comes back to the table - then gets petulant ane then spanked by the Prez just yesterday.

Now, magically, the Prez walks out, and NO ONE ELSE BUT THIS REPUBLICAN AIDE (to whom??) reporting the same???

Hmmm.......

[The River]

60. ALL WH Meetings END

when the president gets up and leaves the room.
The only "drama" is created through / in the media.

[cliffordu]

66. Yeppers, I think you're right.

[Randomthought]

87. Exactly!

The meeting was over and he didn't stand around and chit chat

[Bluesbreaker]

62. The president's education on being bi-partisan continues

He should just send Congress a clean bill to raise the debt ceiling and call the GOP bluff. If they vote it down and put the country into default, he can invoke the 14th Amendment and raise it by executive order, preserving the solvency and credit of the nation, while exposing the Republicans for the hacks they are.

[creeksneakers2]

63. Obama should call the GOP bluff

The House Republicans don't want anything specific, except for Obama to take all the heat for their dirty work. Cantor and Boehner both admit they don't have the votes to pass their plans through the House. Its all a big bluff. I wish Obama would start to rub it in their faces. The GOP is willing to cause a national disaster for an idea even they don't support. Obama should demand that the GOP pass a bill and start the legislative process rolling before its too late. If the Republicans can't, then Obama should demand that they should vote for a clean bill and quit threating America.

[Flatulo]

64. Time to take to the bully pulpit and take your case directly to the people.

With your eloquence you can win this!

Do a Ross Perot and break out the charts and graphs showing the rise in income inequality. Show exactly what the rich did with the Bush tax cuts.

[Chisox08]

67. Good! I want to see more backbone from Obama.

Now he can tell the Republicons if they don't put a proposal on the table that raises taxes on the top 2%, they can go fuck themselves. Stand your ground and don't let those piece of shit Republicons hold this country hostage in order to get their will.

[craigmatic]

68. OK so Obama has some balls and it actually looks like he's winning this thing. I'm pleasantly

surprised.

[dogmoma56]

70. probably just had to pee..

[dogmoma56]

69. under Bu$h43 the debt limit was raised 19 times, increasing the debt $1 Trillion dollars

[PatrynXX]

71. gimicks and accounting tricks???

oh like those Republicans did in Texas so their $2 billion in debit is now a balanced budget... I'm guessing unlike Obama, those really were accounting tricks in Texas.

[DallasNE]

72. Need To Take This With A Grain Of Salt

The "walked out" comment came from a Republican source. Another source said the agreed to time limit expired and Obama excused himself meaning he didn't walk out early like Cantor had with the Biden talks or Boehner had earlier with Obama. It is all just talking points designed to change perceptions like, see they all do it. For shame.

[Iliyah]

78. Acutally the Dem source said

which I believe more so than the gopers is that the meeting was over and Prez O got up and left and Cantor hurrily went out to the media and starting overblowing (which means lying). These gopers seem like they never tell the truth. So there you have it, Cantor acted like a little boy who got punked and ran to mommy to tell his version of what happened, and of course corporate media lapped it up.

Anywho, anyway it put, Prez O stood tall and the gopers look like children who got their ball taken away from them. Plus, we all know gopers are bullies and when you confront bullies one on one they tend to run like a little puppy.

[Firebrand Gary]

73. Good for you Mr President!

I'm going to donate to your campaign tonight! That's, my word! We have done the right thing time and time again and it's always getting hung around our neck. At least with the stimulus and auto loan. So this time if the GOP wants to continue to play games, let's hang it around their neck.

Get every bit of that 4 Trillion you want, if they refuse to give it to you (I hope) that you walk away, brace us for a financial collapse and let it all be done.

Defending ourselves by saying: "It could have been worse" is a losing argument. Sometimes you have to let the cards fall where they may.

[Aviation Pro]

75. I hope he pulls a line from "The Social Network"...

..."I'm the CEO, bitch."

[rdking647]

81. come august 2nd

if there is no debt increase Obama should cut off all payment to every GOP district after all they are the ones demanding spending cuts so cut spending in their districts to zero.

[liberation]

82. OMG, I will be damned if Obama is not folding this time around

I am willing to start warming up the crow and eat it, if he does indeed stand his ground finally.

[Myrina]

84. ... he shoulda done this about 18 months ago.

... before they started to think they could pwn him at every turn.

[and-justice-for-all]

93. I would walk out to....

If I had to listen to 'no solution boner' do nothing other than say shit like "spending cuts offered by the White House as "gimmicks and accounting tricks." How exactly is that beneficial and helpful??!! but that is pukes for ya.