James Murdoch claim referred to police (phone hacking investigators)

[denem]

Source: The Independent.

A claim that James Murdoch gave misleading evidence to a Commons committee is to be referred to Scotland Yard, (Tom Watson) a Labour MP said today. ... "I think this is the most significant moment of two years of investigation," he told the BBC....

"It shows that he not only failed to report a crime to the police, but because there was a confidentiality clause involved in the settlement, it means that he bought the silence of Gordon Taylor and that could mean that he is facing investigation for perverting the course of justice," he said....

Prime Minister David Cameron, on a visit to Warwickshire, said that News International - News Corp's UK newspaper publishing arm - needed to clear up the "mess" that had been created.

"Clearly James Murdoch has got questions to answer in Parliament and I am sure that he will do that. And clearly News International has got some big issues to deal with and a mess to clear up," he said.

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/james-murdoch-claim-referred-to-police-2318751.html

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The issue here is not misleading parliament but whether the £700,000 Murdoch paid to Footballers Association chief executive Gordon Taylor was hush money. The claim is based on new information given by former News of the World editor Colin Myler and former legal manager Tom Crone disputing Murdoch's evidence.

[Kingofalldems]

1. Uh oh. As the freepers say---This is HUGH!

Kick and Rec.

[denem]

2. Back to zero recs.

My my ...

[fascisthunter]

17. we are the majority... it is at 18 now

the piss-ant trolls are losing the war on info.

[Kolesar]

3. Police, police, police, police and thieves

oh, yeah

[dipsydoodle]

4. That's a Parliamentary issue : not a police issue.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4929956#4930579

[denem]

5. No. Read the article.

or this The issue here is not misleading parliament but whether the £700,000 Murdoch paid to Footballers Association chief executive Gordon Taylor was hush money. That claim is based on new information given by former News of the World editor Colin Myler and former legal manager Tom Crone disputing Murdoch's evidence.

Headline skimming aint everything.

[dipsydoodle]

6. You may not understand our laws

and I don't care what Tom Watson says in his grandstanding. Muriel's link explained the true situation.

[denem]

7. The issue is the statement by Myler and Crone

in response to James Mordoch's evidence. This is completely new information from two senior (ex) executives.

[eomer]

8. Both allegations can be true.

He may be guilty of both perjury before Parliament and perversion of justice by buying someone's silence in the police investigation.

[dipsydoodle]

10. Gordon Taylor's case was a civil case

which was settled out of court. A confidentiality clause in an out of court settlement isn't necessarily unusual here in the UK - can't speak for the US.

As it wasn't a criminal case there was no police investigation.

There is no such thing as perjury before Parliament here : its termed contempt the penalties for which seem to be a bit nebulous.

[eomer]

12. Just because confidentiality agreements are common doesn't make it legal to agree to silence

about a crime. That is conspiring to pervert justice, whether it was done in a confidentiality agreement of a civil suit or not.

And, yes, I know it's not called perjury in British law, I used the word simply for its meaning.

[dipsydoodle]

13. "conspiring to pervert the course justice"

will of course apply equally to Gordon Taylor, Colin Myler and Tom Crone too. As Crone is lawyer he can maybe expect to be struck off by the Law Society as well.

[eomer]

14. Yes, sounds right.

Is there a problem with that?

[dipsydoodle]

15. Nope

just a bi-product.

Meanwhile the Met Police have said they are considering the subject of the letter from Watson and James Murdoch has been asked to write to the Committee with his comments.

btw in the UK its not the police who decide whether or not charges will be brought on any subject. Not sure what happens in the US.

[thereismore]

18. Who is Muriel. nt

[Uncle Joe]

19. muriel_volestrangler; he kills our rodents here at D.U.

They're cute little buggers, I don't know why he does it?:shrug:

[Hubert Flottz]

9. It's okay for rich people to lie under oath...

happens all the time.

[dipsydoodle]

11. The Murdoch's were not under oath

Nor was Mrs Brooks.

[Hubert Flottz]

16. They would have lied and gotten away with it anyway.

Laws are for the "little people"

[Uncle Joe]

20. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, denem.

[Kingofalldems]

21. Does anyone believe these people didn't employ

the same methods over here?