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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:28 PM
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Donald Trump pledges 'any legal means' fight against windfarm
Source: The Guardian

Donald Trump has pledged to use "any legal means" to block the building of an offshore windfarm near his championship golf course in Aberdeenshire, claiming the development would spoil his view.

The proposed windfarm in Aberdeen Bay, about 1.5 miles from the golf resort, would install the next generation of offshore wind turbine technology.

The £200m energy scheme has just been formally submitted to Marine Scotland for approval. It has been cut back from up to 33 turbines to a maximum of 11 after safety concerns were raised by shipping agencies and Aberdeen heliport, the world's busiest, which serves the North Sea oil industry.

Trump, who hopes to open his first course at the Menie estate, near Balmedie, next July, in a development spanning about 500 hectares (1,235 acres), has renewed his long-standing complaints about the project. He believes the smaller proposal is still unacceptable: some of the turbines could stand up to 195 metres in the water, more than double the height of the Big Ben clock tower.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/05/donald-trump-legal-fight-windfarm
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:31 PM
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1. Of course the wind farms would be unnecessary if we could harness the bluster from Trumpy's piehole.
:shrug:
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AmericaIsGreat Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 02:03 PM
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12. LOL n/t
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:35 PM
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2. Maybe now the "Donald" will realize what he's been doing during his life.
One man's "development" is another man's eyesore or destruction of the environment.

It's funny how he never noticed that before.....
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:39 PM
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3. I'm convinced. Build twice as many, right on the shore, and stick one up his ass. nt
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 02:11 PM
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15. +1
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GaltFreeDiet Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 02:58 PM
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22. +1
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:42 PM
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4. To be fair, the Kennedys were also against the creation of offshore windfarms.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:50 PM
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10. They were as NIMBYish as many of the rich. I was very disappointed
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 03:51 PM
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27. That's your mistaken assumption. They had very valid reasons for opposing in that particular spot.
I oppose it and I don't even own property anywhere near Cape Cod.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:56 PM
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32. Sure they did.
Oh no, not a navigable hazard that can be easily navigated around, like a shoreline.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 10:31 AM
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43. Not the point, the Atlantic Wind connection from Elizibeth NJ to Virginia Beach Virginia
places all it turbines far enough offshore to not be visible, over a backbone of HVDC cables 350 miles long, feeding to the land based grid. Its a smart well thought out project.

This project Cape Wind is not, its smaller, and is sited for connivence to existing underwater cables, and an existing shoal area that makes construction easier in shallow water. In fact its shoe horned into a relatively small area bordered by air and shipping routes.

http://www.capewind.org/article7.htm

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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 10:35 AM
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44. Cape Wind is sited poorly, see my other comment Re Atlantic Wind Connection.
There is plenty of room



Cape Wind is shoe horned into a space surrounded by shipping

http://www.capewind.org/article7.htm
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SpankMe Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 03:32 PM
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24. Both the Kennedys and Trump are wrong. n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 03:52 PM
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28. Nope. Only Trump.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 03:47 PM
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26. Not true. Only off Nantucket.. Cape Cod is a fragile ecosystem.
If you will note Scott Brown also opposed it, as did local First American tribes.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 10:17 AM
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42. How far is the continental shelf off Mass?
Atlantic Wind Connection uses a 350 mile long HVDC offshore trunkline, situating the turbines 18 miles or more. out of sight from shore. the turbines off Cape Cod are only 5 miles offshore.
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:46 PM
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5. Oh yes
and the view of self-centerd multi-millionaires should override any need for the rest of us to get off of fossil fuels and go with renewable resources. The arrogance of the moneyed class in this country knows no bounds they truly believe the country is here for them and we lower and middle class people are here just to serve them and do all the dirty work that they think is below them.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:46 PM
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6. I am for anything that trump is against.
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plumbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 02:09 PM
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14. Yep,
I don't believe you can go wrong with that.

Now, which looks better:

This:



or this:



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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 02:21 PM
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16. That's excellent...................
:toast:
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:40 PM
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30. nice; & says it all. doesn't even need the semi-obligatory pix of the Frump's hairline. n/t
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:47 PM
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7. What a fucking piece of shit!!! really?? spoil the view??!!!
what empty reasoning that is shit is. TOUGH SHIT FUCKER.

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bluevoter4life Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:50 PM
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8. Wonder if he'd feel the same...
...if you replaced "windfarm" with "oil rig".....Just sayin'
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 01:50 PM
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9. Trumpy is a Compleat RepubliCon. A greedy short-sighted totalitarian tiddlebopper
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 01:51 PM by SpiralHawk
Ptooooey on another pathetic Republicon 'hero' with Massive Soul Sickness, D. Trump.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 02:00 PM
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11. All Trump has to do is stand in the middle
of the estate and open his mouth. That would produce enough wind to furnish power to the entire British Isles.
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Permanut Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 02:06 PM
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13. And if they removed that unsightly ocean
He could make the golf course even bigger. What a bunwad.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 02:21 PM
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17. Trump's not in America and doesn't have the leverage and connections
in Scotland or the UK. He lost a lot of good will with his tantrums regarding his golf course.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 02:27 PM
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18. What's wrong with people? Wind farms are so beautiful! I love them. They're moving sculpture
that generates power without pollution... they're the future! God, people are so fucking stupid. If he claimed that they were beautiful instead, and fought for more of them rather than less, he'd really be doing something for the world.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 03:44 PM
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25. Wind farms are so beautiful! I love them. They're moving sculpture
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 03:49 PM by AlbertCat
Yes... they can be awesome.



They certainly look better than a nuclear plant.



And then there's a coal plant....

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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 05:04 PM
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33. DEAR GOD think of the children in the case of a wind spill!!!!
WIND EVERYWHERE!!!!
oh wait..
nevermind... NOTHING HAPPENS if one falls over
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christx30 Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 11:42 PM
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40. To say nothing
of the dangers of solar power. When there is a radiation leak from a solar farm... that could cause catastrophic problems.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 02:29 PM
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19. pretty apparent why he's doing this...
so his toupe' doesn't fly away.

:rofl:
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 02:34 PM
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20. Don Quixote! nt
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 02:55 PM
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21. Aw go break some wind, Chump Trump.
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ChrisBorg Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 03:02 PM
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23. Who does he think he is......a Kennedy?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 05:09 PM
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:16 PM
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29. He bought the golf course, not the view
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 04:20 PM by Uben
Any competent real estate person knows that any views from a certain property are subject to, and probably will, change. So, he can blame his loss on his stupidity. He has a zero chance of stopping the wind farm, short of buying it.

on edit: There is a windfarm 30 miles from me, about 50 turbines. I can see it, if I look for it, but I never look for it, so I don't see it. It is awesome to ride the Harley to see them, as the highway winds through them and they are so.....majestic? One does not realize, from afar, that these things are HUGE!
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 04:51 PM
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31. bankrupt on hair; bankrupt on class; bankrupt on business. & bankrupt in vision as well, i see. n/t
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 05:08 PM
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34. Didn't he install an obnoxiously huge American flag on that lot pissing off his neighbors?
Edited on Fri Aug-05-11 05:09 PM by Chimichurri
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 05:38 PM
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36. An obnoxiously huge American flag raised in Scotland might piss the locals off a bit
Trumps phallic pole was was hoisted in Rancho Palos Verdes, California
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 05:49 PM
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37. Oh I see.Obstructing views is okay for him to do just not anyone else. Of course, makes sense.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 06:06 PM
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38. Well, then there's that
;)
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:48 PM
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39. God Forbid That They Have A Windspill!
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 06:12 AM
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41. It will be difficult to keep his hairpiece on with all those windmills.
Any objection by "The Donald", on almost anything, is based on his own personal vanity.
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