Issa rips Gov. Perry's 'Texas Miracle'

[Zorro]

Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

Count Rep. Darrell Issa as another skeptic of Gov. Rick Perry’s “Texas Miracle” – the catchphrase used to describe how the Lone Star State has added hundreds of thousands more jobs than any other.

In a wide-ranging speech Friday in San Diego, Issa added another salvo in the Texas-California job-creation debate. Perry, who is expected to join the GOP presidential race Saturday, has drawn a mix of scorn and praise for helping to foster a business-friendly environment during his tenure as the nation’s longest-serving governor.

“Rick Perry’s entire claim to fame is that he kicked our ass. You guys can laugh. You can let it out,” Issa, R-Vista, said at a lunchtime fundraiser for the San Diego County Taxpayers Association. “But his entire claim to fame is all the jobs he created. He took almost all of them from us.”

California has been losing jobs to states with more favorable tax policies and less regulation. Issa, chairman of the House Committee on Oversight, went on to praise Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, who is not among the crowded field of GOP presidential hopefuls.

Read more: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/aug/12/issa-rips-gov-perrys-texas-miracle/

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It's going to be interesting to witness Republicant tribal warfare over the next year, and what allegiances are forged between scumbags.

And the nominating process will culminate with the party singing the praises of the Florida governor, since they are holding their national convention in Tampa.

This circus show will be both repellent and fascinating.

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Like the rest of their hopefuls, "Parry" will become a slow-motion train wreck.

:rofl:

[DissedByBush]

25. My family in California says

A lot of business is moving to Texas and Arizona.

So I guess what Issa says is true.

[n2doc]

26. also due to cheaper housing

Texas is not far from a third world country once you get out in the sticks.

[DissedByBush]

32. They live around LA, it's expensive

Going to even a well-built area such as Fort Worth will cost you about HALF in housing, and less on most other things such as transportation, food and health care.

[No Elephants]

52. Texas has very hefty property taxes and probably cuts corners on things Californians enjoy.

One way or another, people have to pay or do without. There is no way around that.

Besides, overall, I'd rather live in California any day.

Fort Worth is not the Texas counterpart of L.A. environs. L.A. and environs, except for the obvious exceptions, are probably THE most expensive places to live in California. Fort Worth and environs are not the most expensive places to live in Texas.

See also, Reply 40.

[DissedByBush]

68. And no income tax

But the point was that not every place in Texas is in the boonies. You can live in a modern city and still have your cost of living far below the LA/San Diego area.

[kentauros]

35. I don't know where you got your impression that

"Texas is not far from a third world country once you get out in the sticks", but you're wrong. And if you got that impression actually living here, then you haven't traveled the whole state (who has, other than Ray Miller and Ron Stone when they did The Eyes of Texas series) ;)

[Bluenorthwest]

40. Colonias...from the State of Texas:

"The colonias has the largest concentration of people living without basic services in the United States. Colonias exist up and down the Texas side of the border."
http://www.seco.cpa.state.tx.us/colonias.htm

Got to understand, Texas, that if your Gov is going to be bragging about the wonders there as part of a GOP roadshow, it will not be possible to play kid gloves with the Lone Star. The facts will be presented.

[kentauros]

47. Take apart Perry all you want.

But one example of bad living conditions is not endemic of the whole state as implied to the poster I called out on it. Can you state that there are no such problems in your own state?

[No Elephants]

54. "Up and down the {huge}Texas border" does not = one example.

[Justyce]

55. That's a gross exaggeration in itself. nt

[No Elephants]

58. Argue that with the source, the Texas State Conservation Office. What was your source?

See the link in Reply 40. And even if the Texas SECO is mistaken, it is still a lot more than "one example" of bad living conditions.

[kentauros]

67. Why not?

The Texas border is simply one area of Texas, and a very skinny area at that. You do realize how big our state is, right? Or do you need to look at a map again? I suggest you do and then compare the area of the border to the rest of the state outside of our cities. The original post about everything outside of the cities being akin to a Third World Country is still, emphatically wrong!

[plumbob]

57. How's that meth epidemic going there in Oregon?

http://www.methaction.org/meth_action_partners

Based on drug activity statistics, Deschutes County is one of eight Oregon counties that were designated in June 1999 as High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas (HIDTA) by the Office of National Drug Control Policy. Despite recent declines in meth activity, over 90 percent of Oregon law enforcement agencies surveyed in 2008 indicated that ice methamphetamine continues to be the greatest drug threat to their jurisdictions. meth was also reported as the drug that contributes most to violent (83%) and property crimes (91%).

[n2doc]

45. I did live there. Corpus Christi.

A little slice of hell. Only the seashore made it bearable.

[kentauros]

48. I've traveled a lot of this state.

And I've seen areas like that, even within the city limits of Houston. But it's not everywhere as you imply. Put down the broad brush and give me examples for all 254 counties and then I'll take you seriously (maybe).

[Justyce]

53. Oh yeah....

It's really like a third world country in the Texas woods...




Generalize much??

[No Elephants]

60. Your example is also misleading, though.

[Justyce]

65. I replied to a post that said

"Texas is not far from a third world country once you get out in the sticks."

As in most states, there are some very rural poor areas, but the post I replied to is a very broad generalization which is largely untrue.

[plumbob]

56. Really? I live in the sticks of Odessa, Texas, far west of the I35 corridor.

Here's what is being built as part of our 28 year old local university of 5,000 enrollment:

http://www.wagnernoel.com/history.php

It's just an $89 million performing arts center, that's all.

[blogslut]

70. forget it.

just forget it.

[lsewpershad]

44. Issa the ass

probably feels that he deserves to prez.

[No Elephants]

51. No mystery. California is not anti-worker. Arizona and Texas are anti-worker.

[DissedByBush]

69. California is losing workers too

Not good.

[NewJeffCT]

2. but, despite his Texas Miracle

Didn't Texas have a bigger percentage deficit than California? And, Texas has high crime, high pollution, the most uninsured, and among the worst public schools in the nation.

Some miracle.

[iamthebandfanman]

3. it was all 'energy' jobs...

aka oil.

[ashling]

24. oil AND windfarms and

public sector jobs whic we are now losing because of Perry's miracle education slash and burn

[FreakinDJ]

4. Below Poverty Line Food Stamp Collecting Working Poor

but I'm sure its the worker's fault

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

10. It's a miracle he's still Governor. nt

[justabob]

19. all of that and more

Texas is at the top of all the bad things lists, and at the bottom of all the good things lists..... every measure of quality of life is bad here.

[UTUSN]

5. K&R #8, two a-holes tangling!1 See, it's not just GIRL-fights we want to see!1 n/t

[zonkers]

6. Criticism from a slimey crook like Issa is a badge I would wear with honor.

[Ikonoklast]

14. If Issa calls you a crook, you just may be one.

He ought to know.

[tanyev]

7. Sing it, Darrell!

Best Republican primary evah.

[BlueMTexpat]

8. I personally despise Issa,

but he speaks the truth here.

For once.

[No Elephants]

59. Yes, it's true that Texas is more anti-worker than California. What should be done about that?

[Ship of Fools]

9. 40% of jobs created under Parry were minimum wage or lower.

Heard it from a pundit yesterday (forgot who -- on MSNBC evening lineup ...)

[Orangepeel]

11. That sounds like he's trying to rip California

I think in Issa speak, that was supposed to be a compliment

[on point]

12. hate to Agree with Issa, but he's right. Perry's 'success' is about a race to the bottom.

Perry did not create 'new' jobs, he took existing jobs from other states by a 'race to the bottom' under cutting other states through poor education, lower wages, lower environmental standards etc.

On a national scale, for this trick to work, we would have to under cut India

NO THANKS!!!

I prefer to impose tariffs for those countries that don't have environmental standards (including climate change protections), employ child labor etc. to equalize costs.

[ThoughtCriminal]

13. Mississippification

A flag stop on the crumbling roads to 3rd-World status.

[veganlush]

15. only the governors of California and New York

..have taken more stimulus money than pArry.

edited to make the big "A"

[AlbertCat]

23. only the governors of California and New York

..have taken more stimulus money than pArry.

And, would you rather live in CA? NY?.... or TX?


Quality over quantity I say.

[KansDem]

30. As a native-Californian, I have to concur...

Just last month, I took a driving trip out to southern California and on the return route, I traveled I-40 from Barstow (CA) to Tucumcari (NM). I then took Highway 54 from Tucumcari to Wichita (KS).

Doing so I passed through the tip of Texas. There's a feedlot there that will make a vegetarian out of any red-meat fan. You can smell it for miles. 10s of 1,000s of cattle, crammed into corrals, standing in their own wastes eating who know what. :puke: Not a blade of grass in sight.

Reminded me of the movie, "Fast Food Nation."

[bluesbassman]

34. You have a problem with that?

Considering that California and New York are #1 and #2 in federal tax revenue why shouldn't CA and NY receive more?

[JDPriestly]

41. We are the biggest, most popular states: California, New York and Texas.

California and Texas also have large geographical areas. And California and New York are pretty liberal states right now, so we were more willing to accept stimulus money than some other states.

[itsrobert]

16. When Meg Whitman said she wanted California to be like Texas

she lost the election right then and there. Many Californians do not like Texas.

[otohara]

49. Same in CO

Texans come to ski areas and behave like they own the place - rude, drunk, loud.

[totodeinhere]

17. Well both Issa and Perry are the scum of the earth so I don't know what to say about this. n/t

[Frank Cannon]

22. It's like watching two different forms of colon cancer duke it out. n/t

[sudopod]

33. lol, quotable. nt

[No Elephants]

61. I'd like to know the full context. I suspect Issa may have been making an anti-worker point, not

anti-Perry point. Or both. But Texas is a "right to work" (bad phrase) state; California is not.

[aquart]

18. Is it possible that Issa might be good for something?

[totodeinhere]

27. No, he's not good for anything IMO. We don't need him to put down Perry. Just you

wait. But the time the liberal blogosphere gets through with him he will be running back to Texas with his tail between his legs.

[No Elephants]

62. Doubtful. Reply 61 is my specific suspicion, but, no matter what the deal was, be sure it was

not good.

[SpiralHawk]

20. Republicons SCORN Republicons. Of course.

Who wouldn't?

[No Elephants]

63. Was Issa scorning Republicans or minimum wage or unions or was he making some other point?

Not sure we can tell from the OP.

[Ozymanithrax]

21. Actually, Issa is just saying that Perry lowered taxes more...

He set up a better low taxes lower wages higher profit system for bussiness. Issa wants to do the same for California. If we just lower taxes lower wages and increase profits, California can boom too, for management, owners, and investors.

[No Elephants]

64. Texas is also an anti-worker state, like any "good" trickle down state.

[udbcrzy2]

28. Were some of those jobs because of the oil clean up?

Maybe some of the jobs he is claiming were from the oil spill.


Hundreds clean up Texas oil spill
Crews work overnight after 462,000 gallons went into port waterway
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35033604/ns/us_news-environment/t/hundreds-clean-texas-oil-spill/

[sandyj999]

29. Comparing Bush to Perry they are now calling Bush "the Smart one" n/t

[aggiesal]

31. Perry and Texas balanced their budget ...

using the stimulus money that they claimed they didn't want.

Texas also has the most minimum wage jobs in the country.

Their environmental laws are the most relaxed in the country,
so they end up with Big Brown's pollution, explosions at their
oil refineries near Houston. Oil spills in the Gulf.

They can keep their McJobs, pollution and oil spills.

[discocrisco01]

37. Lower Cost Of Living

The only counterpoint to the arguement about minimum wage jobs is that Texas has lower cost of living than California does.

[on point]

39. Not exactly. Poor accounting makes it seem like lower cost of living.

The costs are elsewhere. In essence they are running down their capital base.

[JDPriestly]

42. Given our strange geography and climate, we in Southern California

cannot import pollution. It just hovers in the air. The ocean air pretty much brings in fog and then it gets stuck in the Los Angeles and San Gabriel mountains. Air quality is especially important here.

[Major Hogwash]

36. The miracle is that they re-elected Perry after his first term.

Offering low-wage jobs and no taxes to the corporations who re-locate there won't last long.
About 2 years.

[Mosaic]

38. Texas is in terrible shape

Perry is a total failure as governor and has ZERO chance of winning Dubya version 2.

[underpants]

43. Haircut v. Haircut

I hate to see Haircut on Haircut violence

[No Elephants]

66. LOL! The battle of the bobs.

[eallen]

46. In the financial crisis, Texas was helped by stricter mortgage laws.

Texas has long had stricter mortgage laws than in most states. HELOCs are almost unheard of here, and second mortgages quite limited. So we were not hurt <i>as much</i> by the financial industry's mortgage shenanigans. We still had a lot of flaky refinancing and ridiculous first loans. Still.

Those laws are old laws, long predating our recent Republican governors.

:hippie:

[No Elephants]

50. Was Issa actually dissing California or Perry?