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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:20 PM
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Breaking News: Most of Tripoli Falls into Rebel Hands
Source: The tripoli post

At least 90 percent of the capital city of Tripoli is now under complete rebel control, according to eyewitnesses. There are rumours that Al Qathafi could have fled the country. This based on the fact that a yacht and a ship have left Tripoli harbour this afternoon.

Most of the Libyan capital has now fallen into rebel hands as Al Qathafi makes another speech in less than 24 hours. There are rumours that Al Qathafi could have fled the country based on the fact that a yacht and a ship have left Tripoli harbour this afternoon.

In another dramatic turn of events in Tripoli, Al Qathafi’s right hand man Abdullah Sanussi who is also the head of the Al Qathafi intelligence, held a press conference at 7:40 p.m. local time saAl Qathafi's regime.


Read more: http://tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=1&i=6710



I have no idea who these guys are... but indeed, given other NOOZ sources this seems to be the case.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:27 PM
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1. I hope the Libyans are able to achieve a viable democratic form of government;
that represents the best interests of the Libyan People.

Thanks for the thread, nadinbrzezinski.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:30 PM
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2. You welcome
I am watching CNN and following the Tweeter...

:hi:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:50 PM
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7. There are worries that tribal conflict may happen.
Apparently the Berbers, who were badly treated by other tribes during Daffy's reign, might take some revenge. I hope not. I hope they get some kind of meeting of sheiks and other leaders to work out a peaceful transition.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:03 PM
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10. I hope for the good of the nation, that they can take inspiration from South Africa's transition
away from apartheid.

They will need strong, wise and just leadership to make this happen.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:05 PM
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12. Let's hope it's not another Islamic Republic like we've set up in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:09 PM
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13. I don't believe it will come to that, if the Libyan People are given a fair chance, the
intangibles aren't the same as Iraq and Afghanistan.

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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:26 PM
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15. Keep a close eye on who writes the constitution, and what it says...
Edited on Sun Aug-21-11 07:27 PM by grahamhgreen
Especially about social programs, religion, oil.

And freedom from corporate control.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:36 PM
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16. I hear you and I agree the way that's handled will be critical. n/t
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 08:19 PM
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20. Yep, understood.
Libya would be better with a new leader. But how will the aftermath be handled? Will it having more American control take precedence over the people?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:36 PM
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3. YAY!!!
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:40 PM
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4. A Yacht? How's he gonna get to Cheney's compound in a Yacht?
Isn't Paraguay landlocked?
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RyanPsych Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:45 PM
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5. Well now who are we going to bomb?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:10 PM
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14. Tehre are another four wars at least
right now, and a few potential ones. But bringing down this guy... I ain't gonna shed too many tears. And the ones I shed are for the innocents killed. (Which does not include the Qadaffi family)
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:46 PM
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6. And no bloodbath after all!
(hopefully not spoken too soon)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:51 PM
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8. Maybe. See my post #7 on this thread. n/t
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:56 PM
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9. wooo hooo! al Qa-eda now has captured its first capital city of a nation state!
:thumbsdown:
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Muskypundit Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 10:47 PM
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22. Yeah.... not really.
A lot of the people in the rebel government are strikingly progressive; like a lot of the actual rebels themselves.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 05:30 AM
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23. perhaps,& they shall share the same fate as Gen. Younis, butchered by the CIA thug Hifter or another
or simply dis-empowered to the point of the proverbial door-stop.

The rapacious appetites of the Anglo/American banking cartel, and it's creation( military/petrol/industrial/media/science complex) know no bounds.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 05:41 AM
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25. Huh? eom
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 09:00 AM
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27. background for the US/UK/NATO connection/support of Libyan al-Qaeda, etc
Abdel Fatah Younis assassination creates division among Libya rebels

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/29/abdel-fatah-younis-death-libya
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Libyan rebel General Abdul Fateh Younis murdered after Interrogation; Confirmed NTC

http://www.lhrtimes.com/libyan-rebel-general-abdul-fateh-younis-murdered-after-interrogation-confirmed-ntc.html
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Khalifa Haftar: The CIA trained leader of Libya’s rebels – CNN

http://peripheralrevision.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/khalifa-haftar-the-cia-trained-leader-of-libyas-rebels-cnn/
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Libya chaos 'allows al-Qaida to grab surface-to-air missiles'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/04/libya-conflict-al-qaida-weapons
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Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html

"Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, the Libyan rebel leader, has said jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq are on the front lines of the battle against Muammar Gaddafi's regime.

In an interview with the Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore, Mr al-Hasidi admitted that he had recruited "around 25" men from the Derna area in eastern Libya to fight against coalition troops in Iraq. Some of them, he said, are "today are on the front lines in Adjabiya".

Mr al-Hasidi insisted his fighters "are patriots and good Muslims, not terrorists," but added that the "members of al-Qaeda are also good Muslims and are fighting against the invader".

His revelations came even as Idriss Deby Itno, Chad's president, said al-Qaeda had managed to pillage military arsenals in the Libyan rebel zone and acquired arms, "including surface-to-air missiles, which were then smuggled into their sanctuaries"....................


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flashback 2 years (including Young Turks video) more US support of terrorist groups

Saudis and CIA back Khalid Sheikh Mohammad’s Jundullah in Pakistan and Iran?

http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/saudis-and-cia-back-khalid-sheikh-mohammads-jundullah-in-pakistan-and-iran

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flashhback to 2007 (BBC)

Libyan Islamists 'join al-Qaeda'


Zawahri called for North African leaders to be overthrown
A Libyan Islamist group has joined al-Qaeda, according to an audio message on the internet attributed to the radical network's second-in-command.
Ayman al-Zawahri purportedly said the Fighting Islamic Group in Libya was becoming part of al-Qaeda.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7076604.stm

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flasback to 2002 (Guardian UK) French intelligence experts revealed how western intelligence agencies bankrolled a Libyan Al-Qaeda cell

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/nov/10/uk.davidshayler

MI6 'halted bid to arrest bin Laden'Startling revelations by French intelligence experts back David Shayler's alleged 'fantasy'about Gadaffi plot

British intelligence paid large sums of money to an al-Qaeda cell in Libya in a doomed attempt to assassinate Colonel Gadaffi in 1996 and thwarted early attempts to bring Osama bin Laden to justice.
The latest claims of MI6 involvement with Libya's fearsome Islamic Fighting Group, which is connected to one of bin Laden's trusted lieutenants, will be embarrassing to the Government, which described similar claims by renegade MI5 officer David Shayler as 'pure fantasy'


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al-Qaeda is a West-created/funded insta-war/invasion/liberty crackdown/fear machine, an artificial hydra, utilizing the 150 year-old methods the British practised in the middle east


http://andrewgavinmarshall.com/2011/07/15/the-imperial-anatomy-of-al-qaeda-the-cia%E2%80%99s-drug-running-terrorists-and-the-%E2%80%9Carc-of-crisis%E2%80%9D/



The Power of Nightmares, subtitled The Rise of the Politics of Fear, is a 3 part BBC documentary film series, written and produced by Adam Curtis.


The films compare the rise of the Neo-Conservative movement in the United States and the radical Islamist movement, making comparisons on their origins and claiming similarities between the two. More controversially, it argues that the threat of radical Islamism as a massive, sinister organized force of destruction, specifically in the form of al-Qaeda, is a myth perpetrated by politicians in many countries—and particularly American Neo-Conservatives—in an attempt to unite and inspire their people following the failure of earlier, more utopian ideologies.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lByw7kvS0&feature=related part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai6LhnW4Oa8&feature=related part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HvzR8w1z2g&feature=related part 3

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remember, the USA seeds of al-Qaeda started in 1978 and 1979, under Robert Gates of the Carter regime, now he has been the Sec of Defense under both Bush and Obama
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:04 PM
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11. Can we leave now? And will they pay us back?
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Iliyah Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:42 PM
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17. The US is holding
approx. 6 billion dollars. Hopefully, but will take a lot of time, democracy will take place.

Now back to the jobs and ecomony here in the US. We can do it if the American people come together!
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:51 PM
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18. Leave? We never entered the country. nt
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Iliyah Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:59 PM
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19. I also can see
the gopers taking credit for this.

But back to the JOBS
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 08:26 PM
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21. Though Gaddafi was packing his bags last week -- ? Good for the rebels -- been a long road!!!
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indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 05:38 AM
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24. PNAC win! gO TEAM!
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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 06:11 AM
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26. Someone stop that yacht! n/t
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 09:24 AM
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28. All these Libyan ambassadors defecting today....
opportunists, each and every one of them.
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