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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:52 AM
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Bush, Wife to Skip Daughters' Graduations



Bush, Wife to Skip Daughters' Graduations

16 minutes ago Add White House -



NEW HAVEN, Conn. - President Bush (news - web sites) and first lady Laura Bush will skip their twin daughters' college graduations later this month to avoid creating a distraction at the respective schools, the White House said Thursday.



"There are no plans at this time to attend these ceremonies," said Gordon Johndroe, spokesman for Laura Bush. "The Bushes felt the focus should be on the students, and not how long the lines are to go through the metal detectors."


Jenna Bush is slated to graduate May 22 from the University of Texas at Austin with a bachelor's degree in English. Barbara Bush graduates May 24 with a bachelor's in humanities from Yale University.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040506/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_daughters_graduation_1


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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:53 AM
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1. family values indeed
good grief!
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:57 AM
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It might be a bit awkward to put the graduates in free speech zones.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:29 PM
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92. Why should any American citizen "care" about this greedy "family"? n/t
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Zolok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:57 AM
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5. What unadulterated

Bullshit!
I mean, Nixon attended his daughter's graduation from Smith...didn't he?
Clinton went to Chelsea's graduation...
What kind of a father AND mother ditches their little darling's graduation?
What the fuck are they gonna do send that old lecher Cheney in their place???
You just know he sez all sorts of gruesome sexually suggestive things to the twins when Daddy isn't around...

Ghod it's like the friggin' Hell's Angels won the lottery and instead of money they got power.

www.chimesatmidnight.blogspot.com
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:21 PM
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89. Yes and for Nixon that was during all the
upheaval having to do with Viet Nam, No matter what is said about Nixon, he LOVED his daughters and wasn't some chickenshit little coward either.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:55 PM
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102. Wonder if he sends Condi...
you know, they played married couple on turkey day on the plane.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:17 PM
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122. ...as I was telling my husb...
...I mean the President.
Lol. Thanks for reminding me of the plastic turkey double duo.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:28 PM
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30. So much for the "family man" image.
You can't vet the world, Bud!

Does W think this isn't how the rest of his pitiful life will be?

Wherever he goes, a majority of Americans will be there to greet him... and not with flowers and candy. Bush* will have to learn the hard way that free speech will no longer be his to control.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:55 AM
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2. Does not want to be booed?
Edited on Thu May-06-04 12:05 PM by ronnykmarshall
Bill and Hillary went to Chelsea's graduation when he was president.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:51 PM
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39. That and the prospect of listening to speakers who
may not be wing nuts.

Who is giving the commencement address at these universities?
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:56 AM
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3. He is afraid that students might boo him in front of his daughters
Austin is quite a liberal town and he knows that there will be some students who let Bush almighty know what they think about him

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NYBlackCat Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:00 PM
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10. Yippeee!!!
As a current Yale student (not graduating quite yet) I can personally attest to the fact that I'd have booooooed the living hell out of him had he attended, and I am thrilled we won't have to see his ridiculous mug! Thank goodness the class of 2004 can be spared his nonsense.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:18 PM
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123. Hiyas Cat
good on ya kiddo, and welcome
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:57 AM
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4. What the hell is he going to do...
...spend more time at his Crawford ranch instead?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:57 AM
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6. Maybe the girls don't want him there?
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:00 PM
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11. That is a safe bet
They can't be in a comfortable situation. I know for a fact there would be demonstrations at UT if the chimp were to attend. Something for the yearbook.
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:15 PM
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23. Can't remember the source...
But I recall reading a few years back that the twins were not supportive of Dad's bid for the presidency. They don't appear to have been close at all throughout their teenaged years -- when they appear in public at all, it's generally with Laura.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:58 AM
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7. Dude, that's pretty F-ed up right there!
I can't imagine my parents *not* being at my college graduation to see me walk across that stage.

Way to take it out on the kids, W...
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:59 AM
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9. My Thoughts Too
I wouldn't want him there, because he would be booooooooooooed
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:31 PM
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76. 'Ya know how it feels when your parents don't show for a
ceremonious functions, ballgames or a special social functions? I'll tell 'ya, and then again there aren't words that can indeed do the job by this poster.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:21 PM
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124. On the other hand
...(not that this applies to the Bushies) the whole graduation ceremony hype is much overrated. Overrated nonsensical silliness. just a personal view. (I feel the same way about weddings too)
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:59 AM
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8. guess when you can't get
"hand-picked" crowds to surround him, there are no "family values" or "families valued".

:puke:

If he were not such a despicable dictatorship-craving piece of flotsam, this would not be such a problem.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:01 PM
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14. Exactly.
I bet Jimmy Carter would not only be OK but acutally welcomed.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:00 PM
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12. probably has a fundraiser planned... n/t
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drthais Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:01 PM
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13. here too!
he is speaking at the LSU graduation in Baton Rouge
although I live 15 miles north
I will smel the stench emanating from the campus
I wish there was an organized protest

:puke:
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mcar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:04 PM
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15. So they can give commencement addresses
at colleges, but they can't attend their own daughters' graduations? Yeah, that makes sense (sarcasm off).
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:43 PM
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36. The DimSon insists on being the center of attention.
He cannot be an audience; he must be the act. When has anyone seen him anywhere that he didn't get up and wallow in the spotlight like the sicko narcissist hi is ? At the 9-11 memorial service at Washington Cathedral he had to climb into the pulpit himself. At the Olympics, he had to go sit among the people who earned their way to the Olympics.

The asshole is a pathological narcissist. Remember that. Take it to the bank.

(Besidess, Katherine Harris wasn't allowed to scrub the ticket lists.)
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:23 PM
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125. Very good point
These are offspring only. Daughters at that.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 09:03 PM
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130. Not sure of this but I suspect Bush and many other
commencement speakers get PAID for those speeches.

Money over honoring his daughters...TRUE Republican family values.

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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:06 PM
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16. They are worried about the boo birds of paradise
GW can only be in front of a crowd of sycophants.

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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:09 PM
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17. I remember reading how he was copping out
or rearranging dates for a G8(?) summit meeting so he could attend his daughters' graduation ceremonies. Something's up. The metal detector excuse just doesn't wash. They were certainly aware of security a long time ago.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:14 PM
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20. has he tumbled off the wagon again?
Or is he just getting so scared of being out in public? He sure seems to be packing some heavy kevlar under his suit coats these days. Probably figured out the puppet masters aren't pleased with their poster boy's preformance of late and fears they may have new plans for his 'career'.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:29 PM
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31. I Think You're Right
I wouldn't be surprised if he suddenly turns up at the last moment(s). At least, Pickles ought to go.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:44 PM
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37. Yeah, what's her excuse?
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:35 PM
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69. I agree.. that's the weirdest part
Laura can go without much problem. There will be security issues but big deal.. nothing they can't overcome. There wouldn't be much risk of student protests geared towards Laura so she, at least, should be there.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:31 PM
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33. It was one reason given that he wasn't attending the D-Day event
I remember that from a year or so ago. And lately it's been announced that he will be in France for the commemoration of the D-Day landing.

What was he doing when one of them had appendix surgery? He's not a very concerned father.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:09 PM
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96. Will he be representing Germany in the commemoration?
Preston would have.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:25 PM
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127. no, Schröder will do that
First time a German Chancellor got invited to the commemoration.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 08:22 PM
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129. Jenna had emergency appendectomy, "Dad" went fishing.

I don't believe this guy loves his kids. What goes around comes around, George.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:10 PM
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18. what an ego on this fuckwad
metal detectors indeed.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:14 PM
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19. He can't face the truth he's not a popular as the media hirelings..
keep telling everybody he is.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:14 PM
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21. But the NASCAR race was okay to make a spectacle
of.

Mind you, that was a lot harder to keep in line . . .
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:55 PM
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57. I heard he was booed at Daytona. The press didn't report it
but people who were there said there were definitely boos.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:15 PM
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22. Kerry or Clinton (Yale alums) should get on the roster and speak
at the Yale graduation. That would be so sweet!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:15 PM
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24. Maybe he could go disguised....
as President.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:59 PM
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103. ROFLMAO!
:kick:
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:17 PM
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25. PDB: Osama determined to strike at graduation. n/t
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:20 PM
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66. But didn't specify WHICH commencement
Yale or UT - so he better skip both
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:36 PM
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71. good one. or the Exact time. better to kick back w/Condi Crawford. n/t
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:39 PM
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79. Yeah, but it's a mostly historical document... :- )
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:17 PM
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26. What Did You Expect
We're talking about a man who preferred to go golfing with his father and brother Jeb, in Florida, while his daughter had surgery.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:22 PM
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27. He's never been a father to them in the past
why start now. Poor twins. In spite of their antics I do feel sorry for them.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:22 PM
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90. The antics
Edited on Thu May-06-04 07:22 PM by Politicub
were most likely cries for attention from his daughters. Can you imagine being one of the psycho Bush's children? :scared:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:23 PM
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28. You know, their daughters may not want them there.
They probably demanded it. Well maybe, Bush. But I think at least one of them should attend. That's kind of sad.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:30 PM
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32. His wife should go at least
I wouldn't boo her (only the Chimp).

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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:33 PM
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34. I agree
What kind of mother would miss her daughters' graduation ceremonies, regardless of the problems it may cause? I'm sure they could work something out whereby her presence would be less distracting. I don't get that at all.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:27 PM
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98. Well, maybe their grandparents (Pickles' mom and Poppy and Babs) will show
At least, they'd have some 'family' on hand, eh?

:eyes:
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:09 PM
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106. They can dress pickles up
as chimpette.
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:27 PM
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29. How ironic. The twins graduate with degrees in English and Humanities.
Perhaps they can teach their father a thing or two.

:dunce:
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:26 PM
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67. LOL....that jumped out at me too.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:41 PM
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35. Do they give a damn about those girls?
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:48 PM
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38. It is not unusual for people of a certain class to treat their
children as pets. They don't ever develop a close relationship with them because the staff raises them. It wouldn't surprise me a wit if that is the case here.

The folks I've known raised like that were miserable when they were young, always trying to compensate. They grow up just like their parents with a deep sense of entitlement, little empathy and poor relationships.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:06 PM
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42. Didn't both of the Clintons attend Chelsea's graduation from
Stanford, or wherever it was?

I think it was after Bill was out of office, but considering what a vile person he was, so deserving of impeachment, so worthless, such an unrepentant sinner and surely hated by every thinking person on the planet and no doubt a prime target for terrorists of every stripe. . . . .

/sarcasm off/

* is totally worthless. He has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. He is a lousy son, a lousy father, a lousy husband. He is cruel to animals.

Y'know, even assholes have a legitimate function. He's more like a ruptured appendix, or a broken coccyx.

Tansy Gold, who just finished reading the Discover magazine article about useless body parts. . . . .
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:23 PM
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44. Yes. N/T
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:25 PM
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91. BWAHAHAHAH
The broken coccyx president -- because even an asshole has a legitimate function.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 12:54 PM
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40. I bet they go-will be sneaked in incognito
or will be quietly behind the scenes and pictures later. Grandma & Grandpa maybe be there - somebody??
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:05 PM
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41. and let me guess, they both got a "gentleman's C"
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:23 PM
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43. He has a bender scheduled for those weekends
I'll bet
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:25 PM
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45. come on people
the "president" - no matter how fake, showing up at any graduation would steal the thunder from the students and it is THEIR NIGHT.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:29 PM
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47. But it's HIS daughters graduating!
If I was the Tequila Twinns, I wouldn't care that dad's gonna be shooting back beer bongs with us later, I'd want him at the commencment.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:52 PM
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55. his daughters are well aware what it means to be First Daughters
Edited on Thu May-06-04 01:53 PM by Skittles
my mother didn't go to my graduation; they will get over it
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:19 PM
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65. OK, I'll not argue with you.
My parents didn't come to mine either. I went to my daughter's.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:19 PM
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108. They KNOW he's a marked man
forever. They'd probably BOO him themselves w/ the rest of the people. Maybe that's why they're not going.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:37 PM
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50. Yeah, I dont see what the big deal is
My parents didnt hit any of my graduations. After all the flack people gave shrub for the security and motorcade waits at Daytona and opening day at St Louis, I dont blame 'em.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:40 PM
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51. But he has no compunction about "stealing the thunder"
from other people's graduation ceremonies and subjecting their families to metal detectors, etc.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:25 PM
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99. I remember the Clinton's at several big Stanford events
including freshman orientation (while he was president) - the pics were great. I believe I saw pics (was no longer in the area) of both Clinton's in attendance at Chelsea's graduation. So, the Clinton's shouldn't have gone to see their only daughter graduate because it might have been disruptive? Sorry, we simply disagree on this one. There are times that even famous folks are simply parents wanting to share momentous occaisions with their children. Unless, of course, they were already long standing absentee parents, which seems to be the case with W (not nec. Laura - am surprised that she isn't going... maybe not doing so to avoid making hubby look bad in comparison?)
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:21 PM
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109. Maybe she's having
more plastic surgery, liposuction?
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:58 PM
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116. But Bush has given graduation speeches at other universities
the past few years hasn't he?

He gave the graduation speech at West Point last year.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020601-3.html

And at Yale in 2001.
www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=15797

So he didn't really give a shit about the students have to pass through metal detectors before. He's inconvenienced people at sports events all over the country for the past three years.

This is about Bush having better things to do than go to events where he isn't the featured speaker.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:28 PM
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46. Geez, and my friend wants me to fly out to CA for her daughter's
Edited on Thu May-06-04 01:28 PM by Ilsa
HIGH SCHOOL graduation (and I'm poor), and he can't even make to his own and ONLY daughters' college grads? How Fu&^ed up is that? He's probably busy fundraising.
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rebellious woman Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:30 PM
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48. Distraction? What a coward. So much for
families values.....but one can't have them if they
never had them in the first place. Big Momma and
Pappy going in their place?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:48 PM
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52. If Bug Eyes and Poopy go ....
there's is still going to be security.

There's still going to be security because of the girls anyway. So that bullshit that Laura is spewing doesn't fly.

Asshat doesn't want to ge because they will BOO his ass!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:48 PM
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53. If Bug Eyes and Poopy go ....
there's is still going to be security.

There's still going to be security because of the girls anyway. So that bullshit that Laura is spewing doesn't fly.

Asshat doesn't want to ge because they will BOO his ass!
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Warren Stuart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:35 PM
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49. You are all missing the point, it's an election year!
Imagine Bush getting booed and having half of the graduating class turn their backs to him? Imagine students showing up with hoods over their heads? It would be a PR nightmare for the Republicans.



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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:50 PM
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54. Turning their backs ...
Woundn't that be a hoot if the twins joined in?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:59 PM
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58. Bush is afraid of an ass*ssination attempt...
People are really angry because of the latest atrocities and the protesting crowds would spoil everyone's graduation.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:25 PM
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114. Not in the least bit possible --
make that chimp a mart*r in the eyes of the right wing establishment.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:01 PM
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60. Yes, exactly correct!
We know what a hideous government we have on our hands...Civilians are just barely glimpsing what we've known for so long.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:53 PM
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56. * has a contingency plan in place...
Bush and his minions have been bracing for the backlash from Americans for a very long time and have no intention of relinquishing power anytime soon.


If you remember just last week, * on the campaign trail heavily promoting the renewal Of PA1 and approval of PA2.. If you think living with PA1 was bad enough, the tenets in PA2 guarantee Bush himself can designate by virtue of sole decree, your status as an enemy combatant for doing nothing more than peacefully protesting at an anti-Bush political rally.

Included in this broadened power is having you trucked off to N.C. stripped of your right to counsel, incarcerated until you are processed and sent to a designated combatant holding camp, perhaps never to be heard from again.

As bad as these pictures are of the tortured civilians and prisoners and the revulsion we feel at the degradation on both sides of humanity. These pictures are but a window into what may be in store for all of us.

We should think long and hard, using what we have learned about this administration's definition of American; as the impetus of shedding light onto the "dark" side of the Bush Administration, and the Republican Party that supports this unholy fascism.

What may have been uncovered here is more than meets the eye. These photos may serve as an introduction to the cruel and unusual punishment they intend be visited on anyone not of their ideology, including us.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:00 PM
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59. Didn't the Clintons attend Chelsea's graduation? I can see it would be
a problem for the other graduates,though. And, maybe the "girls" just didn't want to go through all that.
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Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:57 PM
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63. They sure did
http://www.21stcentury.com.cn/article.php?sid=43

What's the big deal?? Oh yeah, 9-11 "changed everything". Except Bush and Pickles go to public events all the time, and don't give a fig about inconveniencing the little people.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:38 PM
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61. Well, the girls should have gone to college in swing states
Bush and Cheney and their wives are not concerned about disrupting the graduations of students at Concordia University in Wisconsin, LSU in Louisiana, Florida State University, Miami-Dade College in Florida, and Cedarville University in Ohio.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,115884,00.html
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:39 PM
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62. He doesn't want to meet the young men he will be drafting
seeing that up front an personal may bother him...so he avoids it.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:19 PM
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64. I'm actually going to give him a pass on this.
If either Bush came the campus would be inundated with security, protests, "free speech zones", metal detectors, slack-jawed gawkers and (in Texas) Bush loving sychophants. If he attends then it becomes all about him, and in two cities like New Haven and Austin he could expect a lot of protestors. The daughters probably don't want them there, as it would politicize the commencement for many of the graduates (and remind many of them that they do not have jobs).
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:58 PM
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72. With the greatest reluctance, I agree.
I would be angry if someone spoiled my graduation, or my kids' graduation because of politics. The whole event would turn into a circus.

His handlers probably know that his presence would turn the whole thing into negative publicity for him. That is probably the real, and selfish reason for his non-attendance.

I have attended all my kids' graduations. We are skipping my oldest daughter's graduate school commencement. She told us she preferred to have us there for her senior recital. We went to that, and spent quite a bit of time with her.

Maybe we need to pick our battles. Shrub does enough heinous stuff that we can criticize legitimately. Let's forget about this one.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:27 PM
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68. When Chelsea graduated....pictures
Edited on Thu May-06-04 03:28 PM by SoCalDem
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:35 PM
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70. OK, I've read a number of posts...
...suggesting why George might choose to opt out of the graduation ceremony but why exactly wouldn't Laura go?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:58 PM
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73. I wonder, too.
The extra-heavy security would screw up the ceremonies. Possible protests would surely make him look bad. Besides, I'm not sure the girls really want him there.

But why couldn't poor Laura go? She's not that controversial. If she isn't safe because she's the president's wife, what about the safety of the president's daughters? Their names will be called & they'll walk across a stage to get their diplomas--in plain view of a large crowd of people.
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Harrumph Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:32 PM
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77. Laura can't go ....
she has already worn all the drapes in the WH. She hasn't anything left to wear. Poor woman.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:03 PM
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74. CBS - Bush To Skip Daughter Graduations
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/06/politics/main616016.shtml

He never missed smiling and waving each day our soldiers are murdered in Iraq.

He never missed a fund raiser smiling and waving while reports of our soldiers where murdered in Iraq!
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:18 PM
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75. That's one of the most sensible things he's done in the past 4 years.
graduation should be about the students, not the parents, not the speakers, but the Students.
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Lou_C Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:38 PM
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78. The Bush crime family never seems to amaze me
What a loving Dad....LOL!
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:44 PM
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80. Jackie Kennedy attended her children's graduation...
but Jackie was loved thourghout the world.

smallman bush is hated throughout the world....but isn't he loved at yale and Texas?
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:47 PM
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81. Sadly, they are probably used to this behavior
I imagine both parents have skipped many important events in their lives, especially Daddy.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:47 PM
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82. They could easily go to the second, smaller ceremony.
Edited on Thu May-06-04 04:49 PM by Divernan
Yale has two days of graduation ceremnies,or at least it did back in 1986, when my son graduated (summa cum laude/distinction in the major). The first day was an outdoor, university wide ceremony with the commencement speaker and all graduates for both bachelors and advanced degrees. My son and others wore strips of red cloth tied around their arms to protest apartheid, and Yale's refusal to divest its holdings in South Africa. ( All the students and families were in great spirits, whether wearing a protest symbol or not.) The second day of graduation featured very small ceremonies and receptions held at each of the residential colleges. My son's was Pierson College, and there were only the 100 graduating seniors and their families, gathered in the tree-shaded interior courtyard of the college. This is where the master of the college called each graduate up by name, to the raucous yells and cheers of their classmates. The master said a little about their undergraduate activities and where they were headed after graduation, and then handed them their diploma. Among the Pierson grads was Prescott Bush the IVth, and both his parents were there for the occasion. It would be very easy to have W and Laura at this second day's ceremony and provide security in such a totally enclosed space. The whole weekend was one great party. It takes long years of hard work to raise a child, and watching her or him graduate from college is a terrific joy and highlight of parenthood. I feel very sorry for anyone whose parents don't come to watch them graduate.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:47 PM
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83. He's being consistent - skipped court appearance too
;)
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:03 PM
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104. AND AN AIR FORCE PHYSICAL TOO!
:kick:
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 04:59 PM
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84. This reminds me of Ronald Reagan,
Edited on Thu May-06-04 05:04 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
who was always playing up to the fundamentalists, never attending church.

Just as Reagan talked a good game when it came to religion, the Bushes talk a good game when it comes to family values.

On the other hand, maybe Bushboy resents the girls for getting edumacated and is showing his displeasure by boycotting their graduation. :shrug:
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 05:11 PM
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85. I love that both daughters have earned "liberal" arts degrees! n/t
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 05:52 PM
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86. but ... how about all those times when he showed up at other graduations
Edited on Thu May-06-04 05:58 PM by Lisa
Like the one at his alma mater, where he went on and on about how dumb and lazy he'd been! Or this one at the University of South Carolina. Evidently he didn't worry about "creating a distraction" for other people and their kids. He'll put on that blue Yale doctoral gown and prance around all day! (Or maybe he's lost interest in going to these functions now that he's got that honorary degree?)




Well, if Bush isn't going to congratulate his own daughters, I will. (Their work can't be that much worse than the tons of papers I'm grading right now.)


p.s. if his only reason is that he's afraid of being booed in front of the girls ... I think he should suck it up and just go! Jenna and Barbara are old enough to be able to handle that. They've had to put up with a lot more public disapproval than his handlers have let him face, I bet. And if he doesn't know how to defuse tension by doing an affable I'm-only-Jenna's-dad act, what kind of "war president" is he? If he thinks things have gotten so much worse than even last year, whose fault is that?





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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:48 PM
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101. Aargh, he's wearing a Yale doctoral gown!
(I know because I have an earned one.)

Yale undergraduates do not wear blue, and the Bushboy has no graduate degree from Yale. I suppose he just liked the color or something.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:41 PM
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111. He wouldn't be able to wear
his ear piece that day with all the booing if he was asked anything by a reporter, or anyone else..
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:43 PM
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112. There's something so weird
about that photo...Makes him look like he's some sort of clownish emperor. That sense of arrogance is just so prevalant in that photo.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:13 PM
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87. What scum they are
can't even go to their daughters graduation, the Clintons went to Chelsea's.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:18 PM
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88. It's weird that this is a news story
Edited on Thu May-06-04 07:18 PM by Politicub
If my parents didn't come to my graduation, I would have been disappointed. But then again, my parents aren't Pretzel and Pickles Bush. If they were, I guess I wouldn't want them to come either.

Seriously though, most people only get to claim their undergraduate diploma once. I'm not surprised that Great Leader would miss his kids' graduation, but I don't believe education is of any real importance to Bush.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:29 PM
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93. ok, he can sneak away from the ranch while his own secret service agents
don't know, looking like an "ordinary couple" with sleezy rice, and serve up a plastic turkey to troops in Iraq, but he can't make it to his daughters' graduations.

ahh, just another sensible life-choice in bushcoland.
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salonghorn70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:53 PM
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94. Speaking As A Texas-Ex and A Parent
I would hope that President and Mrs. Bush would not be met with protests in Austin, if they decided to attend graduation. Graduation is so meaningful in Austin. The Tower is lighted and the singing of "The Eyes of Texas" marks the passage of students into that special honor of being a Texas 'Ex. Leave politics aside. Let them enjoy this special time with their child. There is time for politics down the road.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 07:58 PM
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95. Having carefully considered your position...
...nah, fuck 'em. Protest the living hell out of them. It's all a moot point anyway, since they won't be attending. And of course, Bush doesn't get out among the public precisely because his handlers don't want him to mix with the millions who despise him. So if the opportunity presents itself, he'll be protested. They're just going to make sure that opportunity doesn't exist.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 08:16 PM
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97. agreed
these are seriously bad people who break laws and are trying to bring down this country- they deserve nothing- if i were anywhere near i would protest my little heart out
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:06 PM
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:45 PM
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113. There definitely would be protests...
but, I wonder if this is a BS story to throw-off the people so they can't plan a protest and really show up at the graduation?? This puke is a lying sneak and I put nothing past him.
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Longhorn79 Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:30 PM
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118. Go Longhorns
For what it's worth, my friend had Jenna in his class and said she was actually an excellent student.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:10 PM
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120. bet we know whose side of the family she takes after!
Laura's probably the one who did the school stuff with them when they were growing up, because I don't think he's got the patience.

You know, I've never heard Bush bragging about how well his daughters do in school, which subjects they like, etc. -- it seems that all he hopes for is for Jenna to get married in front of the waterfall at the ranch (even though it means she'll have to wear hip waders and a rain slicker). And he's called them "whiners" in public, too!

Personally I hope they have happy lives -- they didn't even want him to run for office.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 09:44 PM
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100. "So, Karl, how many soldiers and sailors we got in the audience?
Corporate CEO's? What? Who's supposed to clap when I show up? What the hell kind of shindig is this anyway?

Aren't these 'graduates' paying $2K a sheepskin to come to this thing anyway?"
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:09 PM
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107. Bush used daughters as a political shield. Possibility causing suicide.
Such short memories the American Shadow Government Press has!

When Bush's drunk driving came up just before the election he used his daughters as an excuse. Is this what a Christian man does to his children? I thought a Christian man was supposed to protect his family, especially his children, no matter the costs? But then, we're talking about Christian Fundimentalists!

I can't imagine a man so sleazy to use his baby twin girls as an exuse. Such shame. Such IMMORALITY!

Bush didn't care if his daughters committed suicide from guilt? If Bush had lost (legally) the election his daughters could have had so much guilt it drove them to suicide. 'For they are the cause of him losing the Presidency.' Maybe not in a few days or weeks but even years later. I'm sure a 1000 psychiatrists could depose that this extreem guilt could cause suicide.

------------------

Was that in Bush's mind? Maybe.

Could that have caused suicide? Sure.

Was that a risk Bush was willing to take with his children? Of course!

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For those of you with short memories, the drunken driving scandal was so serious I watched Karen Hughes more than 50 times in 2 days of every Shadow Gov. Media Outlet pleading with voters not to let this incident prevent Bush from being elected.
(We can see what kind of Christian moral values this woman has too!)

Isn't this this first time in history a future President used his children as a shield? What a dirty aWol Texas Air Gurad COWARD!

Are you surprised he doesn't go the graduation to escaped political embarassment?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 10:31 PM
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110. We had "other priorities."

Ch-Ch-Ch-Chia!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:36 PM
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115. I bet those girls are ashamed of him.
Wouldn't you be? They probably begged him not to show up. They were probably hoping their mother would go, though. Probably Junior wouldn't let her go alone because it would make him look bad.

My scenario.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 12:03 AM
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117. i think they're both very liberal.
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Longhorn79 Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 03:32 PM
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119. No, unfortunately
No Ron Reagan Jr.'s there
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swhisper Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:53 PM
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121. Only sons are supported in the Bush family, obviously
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:24 PM
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126. He will appear unexpectedly bearing
a plastic turkey.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 06:48 PM
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128. Bush no longer appears anywhere before ordinary Americans.
To be granted the privilege of being in his presence requires passing a screening process to confirm the proper level of adoration, worship, and loyalty.
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