Ashcroft tour to plug terror bill (Victory Act)

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/106872p-96686c.html

Attorney General John Ashcroft is hitting the road to rally support for the Victory Act, which would further expand his powers to go after Al Qaeda and narcoterrorists, the Daily News has learned.

Ashcroft will starting pushing the Vital Interdiction of Criminal Terrorist Organizations Act later this month in a 10-day, 20-state Victory tour that includes a stop in New York.

--snip--

If passed, the feds would be allowed to:

Clamp down on Arab hawala transactions, where cash exchanged in an honor system has been funneled to terrorists.

Get business records without a court order in terrorism probes and delay notification.

Track wireless communications with a roving warrant.

Increase sentences for drug kingpins to 40 years in prison and $4 million in fines.

[arcane1]

1. "Victory Act"??? We've gone totally Orwellian now

and don't even get me started on 'narcoterrorism'


:eyes:

[gWbush is Mabus]

8. .

When are they coming to NY???

EVERYBODY MUST TAKE THE DAY OFF WORK TO PROTEST THIS!

last time, nobody got a chance to read it let alone protest it.
this time we can make a difference.

[_NorCal_D_]

15. LOL 'narcoterrorism'

Sounds like total bull to me. Is that even a word?

[renegade000]

35. victory cigerettes anyone?

we also have victory gin.

[Loonman]

2. Victory act?

You gotta be shitting me! Okay.....this has gone on far enough!

[no_arbusto]

3. Jesus Christ, the Victory Act ?????

Can they make it anymore obvious? Will Budweiser become Victory Gin? Will they rename Fox News "24 Hours Hate"?

"He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."

[htuttle]

18. It seems they think '1984' was a plan, not a warning

Soon we will have victory over Eastasia!

[Kitsune]

24. Hey now

Eastasia is our ally! You must have meant Eurasia! XD

[renegade000]

36. well u see...

we were fighting eastasia...but then inexplicably, we switched sides...i think the governm- *is probably hauled away and vaporized*

[salin]

4. Is Victory Act - the new name for the maligned "PAtriot 2"?

If so - there was such negative reaction to Patriot2 - that this, too, should be defeatable.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

21. Ding ding ding

We have a winner.

[ewagner]

5. Victory Act???

That deserves a :wtf:

[chomskyite2]

6. well put

.

[Guaranteed]

7. Vital huh?

Vital Interdiction of Criminal Terrorist Organizations.....CRIMINALS have RIGHTS, Mr. Ashcroft.
Oh right it's just a convenient word to represent "C."
Man, you're just so transparent. I'm sick of this garbage.

[FlashHarry]

9. Wait 'till he unveils the 'Glory Act'

Whereby anyone not wearing a US flag pin in his/her lapel will have the flesh flogged off his/her back.

[The Stranger]

10. There really should be people in the streets over this.

It is unfathomable.

[Pastiche423]

13. People are already

protesting his every visit.

[salin]

11. Wonder if he is flying commercial or govt charter?

might give us travelers a little bit of a clue about how serious the new "threat" (that did NOT raise the alert level) is considered by the powers-that-be.

[truebrit71]

12. Unfrickin'believable!!!

Holy shit America...It is time to wake up and smell the java kiddies..this guy is outta his tree!!

"Victory Act"? OMIGOD......

TB

[BadGimp]

14. I hope he brings his Freak Show to Los Angeles

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[On the Road]

16. "Clamp Down on" Hawala Transactions?

as if they're an illegal activity?

BTW, I do agree with the roving wireless warrants, but I thought they already had those.

[POAC]

17. I'm ashamed that nimwit is from my state

we elected a corpse rather than him. Who knew fundie Bush would appoint him as Attourney general

[NYC]

19. You were sensible to elect the corpse.

Welcome to DU. :hi:

[POAC]

20. =-)

thankyou very much.

I was posting over at Malloy's forum, but it's been infested with gator (Conservative underground *snicker*) and his sock puppets and the admin isn't doing anything, so I thought I'd check you guys out. I'm impressed. I really like it here

[indictrichardperle]

22. if Congress doesnt stop this

something is horribly horribly wrong.

The electorate is not going to like this crap at all, Dems could make this a major winner, just by raising Holy Hell. Other than Lieberman and Feinstein i cant think of too many Dems who would support this. I just read where Lee Feinstein is an original PNAC signatory. Is this DiFi's hubby ? I know her husbands company is making 600 million in Iraq on a no-bid contract.

"Victory Act" ?........Jesus.......:puke:

[gratuitous]

23. "Victory Act," huh?

What's next? The "If You Oppose this Curtailment of Your Rights You're a Goddam Commie and Will Be Shot in the Streets Act"? Call your representative today to voice your support for the IYOCYRYGCWBSS Act!

[ibegurpard]

25. Is this the Patriot Act II that was being discussed a while ago?

Any Dems who vote for this need to be nailed to the wall.

[salin]

26. Our job is to make sure they and the public

realize this is just renamed - that its pretty package does not make it anyless vile.

[Trek234]

27. No, not at ALL

Unless the article has seriously left out some details.

Apparently this in fact very minor legislation. Nothing like the next Patriot or Homeland security act.

[indictrichardperle]

28. i wouldnt call it "minor"

its not the whole ball of wax, but its piece by piece under a different name.

Once rights are taken, we wont ever get them back.

[Trek234]

32. Agreed

But you must agree it certainly isn't another Patriot act.

[Khephra]

34. I won't agree to that one yet

That may not be all the provisions in the bill and Ashcroft may have his friends push other amendments as well.

Also remember that the Patriot Act was added to the night before the vote, and because of that many Senators never read the whole damn thing.

Just because it doesn't smell like crap now, doesn't mean that it won't get stinky with time.

[mightywurlitzer]

29. Despite all of this

What disturbs me the most is that Asscrak is the one WRITING LEGISLATION. I thought our legislature was better than just a rubber-stamp parliment . Why is the executive branch doing legislation????

:grr: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :grr:

[indictrichardperle]

30. notice Orin Snatch is going to introduce this

in the Senate ?

Orin Snatch is the same cretin who tried to make the patriot act permanent by removing the sundown provision.

This proves Snatch is the junta's pivot man in the senate.

[disgruntella]

31. watch orrin hatch's web site

"Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) is expected to introduce the Victory Act next month. "

http://www.senate.gov/~hatch/

[Cronus Protagonist]

33. Seems he's been drinking too much Victory Gin (eom)

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