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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 03:35 PM
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IRAQ: FASSINO, Italy Cannot be Torturers' Accomplice
(AGI) - Rome, Italy, May 11 – The “outrageous severity” of the news on the torture inflicted by Anglo-American troops on Iraqi citizens has completely changed the scenario of the military action: At this point it is “unrealistic to discuss the June 30 expiry, there’s no need to wait for that date… We need an immediate act of discontinuity” said DS party secretary Piero Fassino intervening at a convention on the reform of the secret services promoted by the Quercia. Fassino vehemently attacked the decision to use torture in Iraq and as a consequence the lax attitude of the Italian government. He repeated his request to the Prime Minister to refer to parliament on the Iraqi crisis before his trip to America planned for May 19 ("what the heck is Berlusconi going to tell Bush when he’s his most faithful ally”). Fassino is convinced that the use of torture “removes any credibility remaining for the military action and casts a sinister shadow not only on the US but on the whole of the West with images which will be impressed in the memory of future Arab generations. The most serious thing,” he underlined, “was that torture was chosen as a method, applied after training and instruction based on texts which defy an UN principle”. Fassino asked the government to be “less superficial and less reticent ” on the tortures”. In other words, he can’t get away with saying that he didn’t know anything about it because “It we are such Cinderellas it would have been better not to go to Iraq in the first place". Therefore for Fassino the government has to say whether or not it knew of the “detention conditions”. Also because “the only thing which Italy cannot afford is to be an accomplice to countries which practice torture... We want to be allied to a great democracy". (AGI) .
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http://www.agi.it/english/news.pl?doc=200405111949-1258-RT1-CRO-0-NF11&page=0&id=agionline-eng.oggitalia

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 03:38 PM
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1. Great. About time. n/t
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Shadder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 03:45 PM
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2. Freepers should love this...
Just think of all the new product names that can come up with.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:22 PM
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10. Freepers Are... Well, How Can I Put This?
DUMB. They don't think we need allies for anything. They believe that the US would win a conventional war against the rest of the world. They will get us all killed, or worse interned, at the rate they are going.

Jay
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:26 PM
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11. You don't see them
hauling ass down to the recruiting station, do you?! They're scumbags pure and simple! When are they going to wake up!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 03:45 PM
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3. You'd think they would like to break the bad spell on them
since July, 2001, when the Genoa police chose to shoot and kill a protester at the G-8 Summit Bush attended on his remarkable trip in which he was protested EVERYWHERE he went in Europe.

(You may recall the only people who harassed Bill Clinton on his trips abroad were our own "lib'rul" media guys.)

So glad to hear they are thinking of making a clean break. Very decent.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 03:46 PM
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4. Spaghetti = freedom noodles.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 03:48 PM
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5. They remember what happened to Mussolini and his crew
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 03:54 PM
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6. Pardon my ignorance, but who is Fassino?
Is his party in power, or is he in the opposition party?

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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:08 PM
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8. member of opposition party
known as DEMOCRATICI SINISTRA (democratics of the left) One of the reincarnations of the former Italian Communist Party. Fassino was former leader of the young communists (I think).

One of the good guys.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:12 PM
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9. Thanks for the info!
NT!

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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:06 PM
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7. Freedom Greyhounds!
EVILDOER!

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 06:16 PM
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13. oh god is that cute!
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 04:27 PM
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12. berlusconi doesn't care what you think.
he IS the media in italy, so this has the impact of fluffy bunnies.
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