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Guy_Montag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:32 PM
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Daily Mirror editor has stepped down.
Edited on Fri May-14-04 12:40 PM by Guy_Montag
Just broadcast on BBC Radio4

Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan has stepped down with immediate effect.

Link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3716151.stm
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:33 PM
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1. Poor Piers!
I guess instead of wagging the dog and flogging the bishop, he was caught wagging the bishop and flogging the dog.

--bkl
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:36 PM
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2. Watch the spin begin.
This is an unfortunate development, only in that the debate over the fake Daily Mirror photos may obscure the continuing investigation into the US-Abu Ghraib photos, which are most definitely not fake.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:37 PM
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3. Editor quits over 'hoax' pictures
Edited on Fri May-14-04 12:39 PM by Vladimir
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3716151.stm

Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan has stepped down following pressure to resign over faked photos of soldiers abusing an Iraqi prisoner.

The Queen's Lancashire Regiment earlier told a press conference the Mirror had to apologise for running the pictures and endangering British troops.
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Radioactive Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:45 PM
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4. Editor quits over 'hoax' pictures
There is still no concrete proof they were fake, personally I believe they were real but the photos didnt reveal the faces of the troops commiting the abuses, The Mirror should have waited for more photos to come out before publishing them.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:50 PM
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5. They should definitely have waited
especially post-Hutton, they should have been more careful. But the worst thing about this is that the issue isn't these pictures - the issue are the hundreds of prisoners subjected to daily abuse by both British and American troops. They are the ones who will suffer most from this shift in attention.
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cestmoi Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:55 PM
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6. Is Piers Morgan an unwitting victim of Karl Rove?

Is Piers Morgan an unwitting pawn of Karl Rove?

It is a bizarre coincidence that the British photos which are now proven to be fake miraculously appeared on the heels of the American photos.

I think this coincidence STINKS OF KARL ROVE because the British
photos took the heat off American abuses and smeared British efforts
which up to that point were stellar compared to the American efforts.

American efforts were looking pathetic compared to the British who
were establishing good relations in their sector.

Could it be that Rove has done to the British reputation what he did to McCain's reputation? Has Rove sought to destroy the British reputation so that the America doesn't look so bad in comparison?
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 02:07 PM
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13. He is the victim of Tony Blair and New Labour
Rove is irrelevant here. The Blair regime is vile enough without needing foreign help to cripple its press opponents.

First Greg Dyke, and the BBC taught to crawl; now the Mirror, which courageously opposed this immoral war from the start.

Fascism does not have to come from the right. The center is quite capable, too.
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cestmoi Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 02:51 PM
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14. Blair in no way benefits from fake Brit photos but America does.
I agree about the fascism but what are the chances that British troops were also taking snapshots of abuse. And unlike the American photos which have soldiers mugging for the camera the fake photos don't have soldiers that can be identified.

The benefit that these fakes appeared when they did and thus took heat off the US is to coincidental.

Are you saying that Blair had these photos faked?
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:57 PM
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7. so they're fake. would the mirror have any reason to suspect it?
they say they're the victim of a hoax. who do you think could perpetrate such a hoax? MI5 perhaps? we alll know the CIA is very capable of such deeds. so they published what they thought and no doubt tried to confirm, to be authentic. to say that ALL photos would be fake, would be the ultimate conjob.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:59 PM
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8. I hope, now, the Blair govt will go back to how they received...
the Red Cross report on abuses and did nothing. That is the real issue and, with the Editor stepping down, maybe the British Parliament will keep hammering the Blair govt on the REAL issue.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:05 PM
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10. and what @the WMD


mess? Blair still has not backed down that his info was bogus - right?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:32 PM
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12. Nope, not that I have read anyway....
but it does seem to be part of the reason that his own party now has big doubts about him which is good.
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orthogonal Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:02 PM
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9. Why resign? Rumsfeld hasn't
Why should the editor step down??? I don't understand.

I mean, only a few rogue enlisted employees of the Daily Mirror obtained and printed those pictures.

Piers Morgan spoke to Congress and said he took full responsibility, and then he went on a surprise visit to the printing plant that printed the bad pictures and said he wasn't reading critical accounts of the bad pictures anymore.

What, does "taking full responsibility" mean resigning when your policies allowed your subordinates to be "wrong doers"?

If that's the case, somebody needs to tell Donald Rumsfeld.

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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:09 PM
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11. Per Channel 4 News, he was sacked nt
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JawJaw Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 06:18 PM
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15. Never mind newspaper editors.


Still waiting for Powell to resign over his fake photos.
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