Brutal interrogation in Iraq (5 deaths)

[TacticalPeek]

Brutal interrogation in Iraq

By Miles Moffeit
Denver Post Staff Writer

'VERY TROUBLING'

Pentagon records provide the clearest view yet of the U.S. tactics used at Anu Ghraib and elsewhere to coax secrets from Iraqis.

Brutal interrogation techniques by U.S. military personnel are being investigated in connection with the deaths of at least five Iraqi prisoners in war-zone detention camps, Pentagon documents obtained by The Denver Post show.

The deaths include the killing in November of a high-level Iraqi general who was shoved into a sleeping bag and suffocated, according to the Pentagon report. The documents contradict an earlier Defense Department statement that said the general died "of natural causes" during an interrogation. Pentagon officials declined to comment on the new disclosure.

Another Iraqi military officer, records show, was asphyxiated after being gagged, his hands tied to the top of his cell door. Another detainee died "while undergoing stress technique interrogation," involving smothering and "chest compressions," according to the documents.


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http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~11676~2157003,00.html


Found at http://talkleft.com/new_archives/006560.html#006560, thanks to Eschaton.

[Wickerman]

1. Just admitted that the abuse was not just limited to high value target

Lyndsey G. calls the whole jail the most dysfunctional he has seen, gets the Gen to agree.

Common criminals in with high value targets.

Does not tie back to just 7 bad apples.

[CulturalNomad]

2. Its worth the price of freedom right?

those ugly sub-humans they must understand that the 'civilized' world is fighting for them - democracy is untidy!!

[TacticalPeek]

3. This article is huge. More:

"Internal records obtained by The Post point to wider problems beyond the Abu Ghraib prison and demonstrate that some coercive tactics used at Abu Ghraib have shown up in interrogations elsewhere in the war effort. The documents also show more than twice as many allegations of detainee abuse - 75 - are being investigated by the military than previously known. Twenty-seven of the abuse cases involve deaths; at least eight are believed to be homicides. No criminal punishments have been announced in the interrogation deaths, even though three deaths occurred last year."

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

18. 27?

Hmmm.

[jayfish]

4. I Love How They Put The Qualifier "War-Zone"...

before "detention camps". Nothing to see here folks it's all just casualties of war.

Jay

[UpInArms]

5. tell me how this is supposed to work

Mowhoush, considered a "high-priority target," turned himself in for questioning in November, according to documents. After two weeks in custody at an Al Qaim detention facility, northwest of Baghdad, two soldiers with the 66th Military Intelligence Company, slid a sleeping bag over his body, except for his feet, and began questioning him as they rolled him repeatedly from his back to his stomach, the documents show.

Then, one of the soldiers, an interrogator, sat on Mowhoush's chest and placed his hands over the prisoner's mouth, according to the report: "During this interrogation, the (general) became non-responsive, medics were called and he was later pronounced dead." According to the documents, "The preliminary report lists the cause of death as asphyxia due to smothering and chest compressions."

How in the world would a person even be allowed to speak during such treatment?

And this guy turned himself in!

[daleo]

21. Maybe they wanted to get rid of this guy

A high ranking ex-Iraqi army officer might know a few things about Bush and Rummy that they would prefer to keep secret.

[Lou_C]

6. Why do I think that they are practicing on the Iraqis

So that they can use the techniques in our prison system someday.

What our men and women have done makes me so sick.

When will the Chimp be brought up on war crimes?

[NNN0LHI]

15. Don't know why you think that? Its been going on here for decades

http://www.nodeathpenalty.org/factsheets/deathRow10.html


Governor George Ryan pardoned four members of the Death Row 10 -- Aaron Patterson, Leroy Orange, Madison Hobley and Stanley Howard. That four of the Death Row 10, African American men tortured by Jon Burge and his officers, have been pardoned is a testament to the struggle that the Campaign initiated and has been a major part of locally and nationally for more than four years. Now the dirty secret of what went on at Area 2 and 3 interrogation rooms in Chicago is national and international news. Here is their story. The struggle continues.

Jon Burge, former Lieutenant of Chicago's Area II Violent Crimes Detective Unit, was fired from the Chicago police department on February 10, 1993, for torture. Burge was responsible for torturing more than 40 Black men during interrogations.

Methods of torture included electric shocks, suffocation hoods, Russian roulette, burns, beatings, and threats of death. The 1989 decision in Wilson vs. City of Chicago brought these facts to light. Burge's reign began in 1973. For twenty years, he received advances, promotions and support from political figures such as former police Superintendent Leroy Martin and Mayor Richard Daley. Through the organizing efforts of committed activists, Jon Burge was dismissed from the Chicago police force.

"The Death Row 10" are men convicted and sentenced to death as a result of the use of torture to obtain "confessions" by the Area II commander and fellow officers.

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[Lou_C]

27. I am sorry I didn't think about that

Sometimes I am not proud to be an American.

[Ms. Clio]

7. 17th century "interrogation" techniques

"Another detainee died "while undergoing stress technique interrogation," involving smothering and "chest compressions," according to the documents."


"Monday, September 19, 1692. About noon at Salem, Giles Corey was pressed to death for standing Mute; much pains was used with him two days, one after another, by the court and Capt. Gardner of Nantucket who had been of his acquaintance, but all in vain."

http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/Salem%20Witches/martha_corey.htm

[notadmblnd]

9. did anyone here about the

dunking? I think this story was regarding the Afghans. thye tied the prisoner to a board and dunked and held him under water repeatedly?

this crap is so sick, employing mid evil torture methods in the present day.

[teryang]

8. Torture, murder, war crimes

...all swept under the rug today in Congress.

Bellsouth had an informal/unscientific poll today in which 60 percent of the respondents answered that the Geneva Conventions were "outdated." This country is in deep shit.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Nobody is connecting this

If the Geneva Conventions are outdated, it works both ways

It will be our parents, our husbands and our children who will
be subjected to this treament as well

This is what is not being connected to the people of this country

[teryang]

16. "The problem has been corrected"

CNN is reporting that Abazaid said this.

25 deaths, no trials yet. Problem solved!

[sui generis]

11. it just goes to show

I guess they weren't "humiliated" to death. This is a cancer we have growing alive and well in America...just log onto any freeper site and vomit. One of the things that used to set us apart from third world tin pot dictatorships was that we didn't torture people, much less torture them to death. Rumsfeld must be fired and delivered to an international war crimes court, along with every evil bastard that had a hand in this in or believes it is acceptable, from the top down.

It is the only way we will regain even a tiny measure of credibility with the rest of the world.

[dai]

12. "Stress techniques"

The euphemisms are really too much.

And what's with the use of passive voice: "Detainee died during interrogation..." Nobody killed him, he just passed away?

[Sparky McGruff]

28. Not just passive... It's his fault!

The idiots just up and died. We didn't kill any of them, they just passed away on their own. A REAL man (or woman or child) he would have lived through (insert torture here). What a wimp.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. And it keeps growng

[saigon68]

14. THUGGISH MILITARY WAR CRIMINALS DID THIS

Another Iraqi military officer, records show, was asphyxiated after being gagged, his hands tied to the top of his cell door. Another detainee died "while undergoing stress technique interrogation," involving smothering and "chest compressions," according to the documents.

"Just Frat Pranks" Rush-- I've got a "BOIL ON MY ASS", LIMPBAUGH

[ElementaryPenguin]

17. Still more blood on the hands of the Bush Crime Administration!

Positively revolting!! If the American public actually validates these blood-thirsty monsters with a majority vote - I'M FUCKING OUTTA HERE!!

:puke:

[daleo]

19. These sound like murder, plain and simple

- Asphyxiated after being gagged
- died from "smothering and "chest compressions""
- shoved into a sleeping bag and suffocated

It sounds like the Boston Strangler has come back from the dead and joined the U.S. army.

[Chicago Democrat]

20. GOD BLESS Miles Moffeit!!

What a hero journalist! Three Cheers for the truth!!

[yellowcanine]

22. 'the general died "of natural causes" during an interrogation'

People die while in sleeping bags head first all of the time, don't they? Isn't that why sleeping bags come with warning labels not to climb into them head first? Maybe the Iraqi general didn't read English.

[Disturbed]

23. Now we know.

This is the reason some Senators and Congress persons are screaming to
halt the investigations. It has been a Cover-up. The humilitation photos were supposed to be the end of the show. They are all afraid that the real story will short cut the profiteering of the colonization of the ME.

[David Zephyr]

24. Kick

n/t

[nagbacalan]

26. What are the chances of the release of more of the pictures?

Momentum must be maintained against the assholes. Proof of systemic abuse must rip apart the pathetic "few bad apples" defense. Most of the "good little Germans" I encounter would just as soon put this entire prison episode behind them. We can't let this happen!

[struggle4progress]

25. kick

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