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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:48 PM
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The Status of Kerry And Nader? Quo.
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Nader exited a ground-floor elevator at 3:30. The media throng -- which had grown to three dozen -- clustered outside the door. Zeese, Nader's spokesman, approached the microphone. Sorry, he said. Mr. Nader is not "comfortable" meeting the media outside. He cited security concerns.

Several reporters and cameramen bull-rushed the lobby, where Nader had just stood, but he'd left through an auxiliary exit.

"What kind of operation are you running here?" one cameraman, who said he'd been waiting four hours, yelled after Zeese.

Kerry spokesman David Wade emphasized to another reporter that the operation the cameraman was referring to had nothing to do with the Kerry for President campaign.

more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41186-2004May19.html
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 11:54 PM
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1. Nader is trying to suck the oxygen out of Kerry's campaign!
Don't even give him the time of day!

:kick:
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 12:12 AM
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2. Actually, Kerry is sucking just fine by himself.(n/t)
Dems
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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:12 AM
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9. ....but we were pure of heart
i am really starting to get disgusted with the moralizing intellectual purists - so what if nader stands for many things we might approve of as liberal/populists ? - duh? - did you not notice what a switch of 600 nader votes in florida could have meant ? - we would not even be having these conversations now ! - just look at the horrible damage the bushiviks have done to OUR country, and just think what they can do with 4 more years and no restraints of another upcoming election - but, be proud you naderites - after you blow another election on principle and lack of common sense, you can stand around in ever dwindling circles of the true believers, smile at each other, and sing "we shall overcome(someday)" -- VOTE FOR JOHN KERRY AND LET US TOGETHER START THE LONG PROCESS OF TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE MESS SHRUB HAS LEFT US IN
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AntiLempa Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:28 AM
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10. Exactly
Gore would have won if it wasn't for any of the left wing parties. The 2000 election was so important that it should have been left to the major parties.

Gore wasn't perfect and ran a very dull campaign. He wasn't ideologically perfect. He lost states that he should have. He failed to enlist a liberal as vice president. But at least he wasn't Bush.

So when exactly is it safe for a real party of the left to form?
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 01:50 AM
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3. Good on ya, Ralph!
Here we see the usefulness of Ralph Nader's candidacy: the corporatist candidate is given a lessen in the needs of the people, from a man of the people, a far cry from his instructors in the ranks of lobbyists.

If Kerry shows his willingness to learn from Nader--proof will be in espousal of better positions on the central issues of globalism, corporate taxes, corporate crime, and the immoral Iraq war--then yes, certainly, Nader would have a good case for dropping out and endorsing Kerry. Yes, I know it's unpleasant for you. But that's triangulation, baby. ;-)

Let us look to a spirit of compromise, but be realistic. The left isn't going to come onboard with Kerry advocating such poisonous positions as lower corporate taxes and more troops in Iraq. Many are already considering holding our noses to vote for a non-reformer, but we will not wear gasmasks.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 06:33 AM
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4. Give me a break.
Nader is only in this for himself. If he wants to destroy the Democratic part because of some extremist fantasy he has, the blood of the thousands that will die in a second Bush term is on Nader.
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AntiLempa Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:29 AM
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11. And why is John Kerry in it? n/t
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 07:23 AM
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5. Read Past the Headlines
Lower Corporate Taxes -- targeted tax breaks to companies that create jobs and not for those shipping them overseas. This benefits working families.

More Troops In Iraq -- to be accompanied by troops from the U.N. and the Arab League to stabilize the country, with the U.S. contingent getting out at the earliest possible moment. We've made a god-awful mess in Iraq, and it would be immoral for the U.S. to just walk away from it.

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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 07:25 AM
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6. "What kind of operation are you running here?"
Good question. It seems to be the Bush enabling type of op.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 07:27 AM
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7. And Nader's running for president?
Who ever heard of a presidential candidate avoiding the press?
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 07:51 AM
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8. Am I the only one
who doesn't take this preeming primadonna (Nader) seriously?
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:52 AM
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12. No, you're not
the only one. :-)
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:46 AM
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13. Take Him Seriously!
He makes it sooooo much easier for Bush* to steal the election.

With Nader in the race the machinez can peel off Dem votes from both the left and the right.

That means Bush* can steal twice as many votes.

It does not matter that very few people would actually vote for him.

We need to keep him off the ballot, especially in Diebold states.

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