(Friday's) Released Iraqi Prisoners Tell of Abuse (another death reported)

[maddezmom]

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Abdul Salam Hussain Jassim, 18, said U.S. authorities detained him for three months. He said he was rounded up with others after an explosion in a Baqouba street.

"Don't even talk about torture. They destroyed me," Jassim said of his detention. He said a family of five brothers and sisters was detained in the same block and that one of the men was beaten so badly he died two days later.

The other prisoner, Ghazwan, told the same story.

"Three brothers and sisters were detained together and brought to the prison, the two sisters are still in the quarantine and one of the three brothers was killed while the troops were torturing him," he said. "They took him to the quarantine and brought him dying to his brother's (Ali Alizzi) cell and threatened him that if he will not talk or confess, he would face the same fate."

The prisoner died in his brother's arms, he said.

Another former prisoner released on Friday, Maher Saeed, said he was tied to a car and dragged through the sand for several hundred yards.

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more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=535&ncid=535&e=3&u=/ap/20040522/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_prisoners_freed

[mhr]

1. How Much More Before Heads Role? And People Wonder Why The Mercs

were burned to crisps?

[saigon68]

7. you mean the barbecue ??

The one that happened 6 months after Graner's mission to ANALLY SODOMIZE the Pow'S RECTUMS with long large light sticks?

[FreakinDJ]

2. Another Death at the hand's of interrogators

I keep reading about the deaths at the prison but I do not see any official numbers of how many have died while at the prison. Just an occasional investigation.

I think when all is said and done we are going to see "missing prisoners" Prisoners that have died but some contractor has been dumping their bodies on the streets of Baghdad

[maddezmom]

3. here's the "official" numbers

WASHINGTON (AP) The Pentagon said Friday the military has undertaken 33 criminal investigations of deaths of detainees held by U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan eight more cases than it had reported two weeks ago.

Although the number of cases was 33, they included at least 37 people who had been killed, officials said.

Eight pending cases have been classified as homicides involving suspected assaults of detainees before or during interrogation sessions, a senior military official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Of the total number of cases, 30 were inside U.S.-run detention facilities and three were outside. Fifteen of the 30 cases were declared by U.S. authorities to be deaths by natural cause or of undetermined cause, the senior official said.

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more:
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/142/wash/Pentagon_says_33_deaths_being_:.shtml
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But I'm sure as more prisoners are released, more photos are released and more trials are held the number will increase dramatically. :(

[nodictators]

4. Bad Link

chopped off at end

[Tinoire]

5. Try this

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/142/wash/Pentagon_says_33_deaths_being_:.shtml

[maddezmom]

6. thanks Tinoire...

:)

[Tinoire]

8. Lol

Take it as a thank you for all the times you've had my back :)



:hi:

[Judi Lynn]

9. Going home!

From maddezmom's posted article:


Fri May 21, 4:43 AM ET


Detainees wave from a bus as they leave the prison of Abu Ghraib, outside Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Friday, May 21, 2004. Earlier this week, U.S. Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt said the military had planned to release 472 prisoners on Friday. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

Whattdya want to bet they would still be there in Abu Ghraib indefinitely, had it not been for the news getting out about the torturing?

[saigon68]

11. BEING MADE TO EAT THEIR MEALS FROM THE TOILET

While the "TROOPS" are showered with kisses by an adoring PUBLIC thanking them for fighting for "FREEDOM"

[salin]

10. It keeps getting worse, and worse

can't stand to listen to him... but how long can Rush keep refering to this as fraternity pranks?

[mhr]

12. Salin, We Are Way Past Fraternity Pranks

But then again maybe this is what Freepers do in private.

[salin]

13. while it is clear this is WHY the admin is pushing video and pics

from Saddam's reign of terror... the question is... will it work or will folks - when confronted with daily onslaught of new bad news - will it become to be viewed by the broader public as ugly an attempt to do NOTHING to deal with the issue. In short - will the reality be so STRONG that the mere attempts of Limbaugh and the rest will serve to begin to discredit them - even among some of their listeners?

[maddezmom]

14. Is torturing war prisoners a betrayal of U.S. values? must read commentary

Is torturing war prisoners a betrayal of U.S. values?

By DAVID HORSEY
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER EDITORIAL CARTOONIST

James Inhofe, the Oklahoma senator from the Neanderthal wing of the Republican Party, may still believe that the only practitioners of degradation and torture in the U.S. military were seven isolated misfits at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison. However, stories suggesting something much different continue to pile up:


Three Iraqi employees of Reuters and one NBC staffer, also an Iraqi, were detained by U.S. forces in January. They claim they were beaten and humiliated in various ways. After three days, they were released without charges.


The former commander at the Guantanamo prison camp, Brig. Gen. Rick Baccus, says he was relieved of his duties because the Pentagon believed he was too soft on the prisoners. His insistence on humane treatment did not please interrogators who wanted to use harsher methods.


Thursday, NBC News reported allegations that, at several secret detention facilities in Iraq operated by Delta Force commandos, torture of prisoners is routine and robust.


Sgt. Samuel Provance, a member of an intelligence battalion stationed at Abu Ghraib, told ABC News the use of torture was not limited to a few renegade MPs. The Army is trying to cover up the fact that abuses are widespread, he said.


Quite a bit more: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/saturdayspin/174464_bq22.html

[salin]

15. We need more columns like this - that tie the pieces together

and lay bare the claims made by the rw echochamber.

[maddezmom]

16. here's another :Pentagon's Explanations Add to Confusion

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Congress is demanding answers, but some conflicting testimony from top military and defense officials only has added to the uncertainty.


The examples abound:


_ The Pentagon's top spokesman said Defense Department intelligence chief Stephen Cambone was not involved in discussions of interrogation rules for Iraq. But only days earlier, Cambone testified he, in fact, helped push for those new rules.


_ The general in charge of all U.S. troops in Iraq contradicted the general in charge of the Abu Ghraib prison guards — and an Army investigative report — about who was in command at the lockup after mid-November.


_ A top military lawyer contradicted a defense spokesman and an Army general about whether some interrogation techniques used at the terrorist prison in Guantanamo Bay violate the Geneva Conventions on treatment of prisoners of war.


One area of conflict involves the role played by Cambone, the undersecretary of defense for intelligence.


Cambone testified that he urged Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller, then the commander of the Guantanamo Bay prison camp, to travel to Iraq last August and make recommendations on how to better interrogate prisoners. Cambone said he was involved in Pentagon discussions on how to press detainees for information without violating the Geneva Conventions.

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more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&ncid=542&e=2&u=/ap...