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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 12:58 AM
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Iraq is being run by a bunch of fn Young Republicans. (WaPo)
Edited on Sun May-23-04 01:02 AM by TacticalPeak
Sunday, May 23, 2004

Holy Crap

Iraq is being run by a bunch of fucking Young Republicans. Read the whole thing, but just to give you an idea:


For months they wondered what they had in common, how their names had come to the attention of the Pentagon, until one day they figured it out: They had all posted their resumes at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative-leaning think tank.

-Atrios 12:01 AM

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:03 AM
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1. I just skimmed through that one a few minutes ago
Edited on Sun May-23-04 01:04 AM by Tinoire
What a sorry joke. Glad you posted this here though.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:04 AM
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2. The Washington Post always waffles a bit....
I love that phrase, "conservative-leaning" to describe the Heritage Foundation. Leaning, my ass.... They leaned over and fell into the well of iniquity upon their founding. One need only look at who's funding them to see that "leaning" is the silliest description in the news since Nixon was described as "elder statesman."
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:43 AM
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19. The new Evil Empire
"The people we have detained must be terrorists, or they would not be opposing our occupation. If they are not terrorists, they probably know someone who is. Our intelligence services are not going to fail again to identify the enemy. Because we have detained these people in this special time, they have no rights. Because anything is justified to prevent terrorism, it is our duty to practice the kind of interrogation on them that will yield the desired information.

International law cannot be allowed to put our soldiers and citizens in danger, wherever we have decided to insert them. The logic has come straight from the mouths of President Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and John Ashcroft. The conclusion is clear, and the result has been caught on film for the world to see."

David M. Foster of Edina, Minnesota is a software consultant.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0522-04.htm
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 03:00 AM
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21. gottdamn
these are some scary people! :scared: they sound like...um....nazis.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:08 AM
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25. you said it...
brownshirts for sure. This is scary shit!
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:05 AM
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3. This is huge .....
Edited on Sun May-23-04 01:05 AM by Trajan
Honestly ....

THIS is what happens when professionals are ignored in favor of political operatives and party hacks ....

The GOP has ALWAYS opened the doors of Simon to their own underclass .... a familiar name being of more value than demostrated competence ...

THIS is the GOP, under the helm of George Bush, ruining two nations ...

I swear: the GOP is simply WRONG for america ...

They are wrong in nearly EVERY instance ...

They MUST go ....
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:26 AM
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13. What I find interesting about this is that it's not exactly...
... new news. Some other reporter got a tour of the Imperial Palace a few months ago, and in describing the conversations he heard from cubicle to cubicle, said that he expected to hear discussions of policy about reconstruction, but the single topic of conversation amongst the young policymakers was how they "were going to stomp the Democrats in 2004."

No surprise that the place is full of Young Republicans after that reportage.

With the Bushies, everything is political, including the staffing for Iraqi reconstruction. Old idiots guiding young idiots.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 03:48 AM
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22. Love the
don't change horsemen.
Where can we get it?
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:05 AM
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4. Rich young aristocrats with a big slave country
for their personal amusement.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:12 AM
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5. WaPo always says my cookies aren't turned on
and I have hit every cookie switch I can find

f&*k them
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:14 AM
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8. Are you using Zone Alarm? I just tonight got it to work with WaPo. n/t
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:16 AM
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9. Screw The WP
I don't give information to moonies or GOP brown-nosers. They're both.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:18 AM
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10. Hmm that is the Washington Times
not the Washington Post, two different papers
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:27 AM
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14. Washington Post is a very good paper. Too often confused at DU
with that other rag. You can safely venture there- they have a very good record.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:26 AM
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26. WP has printed more anti-Bush material than the NYT, by far nt
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:22 AM
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12. Buncha Luddites, us.
That's why I pasted Atrios instead of the WaPo direct.

Perhaps it'll get picked up somewhere less clandestine, thesmirkingchimp.com etc.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:14 AM
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6. Damn
now this is what is far scarier....

They were all hired from resumes at Heritage... the Army is behaving like a Latin American Military, no longer like the US Army we all knew

Second note.

Next time I see Ledeen on the teevee, as much as I dislike the man, at least his daughter was over there... that I will give him... even if she was not in uniform.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:14 AM
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7. Damn
now this is what is far scarier....

They were all hired from resumes at Heritage... the Army is behaving like a Latin American Military, no longer like the US Army we all knew

Second note.

Next time I see Ledeen on the teevee, as much as I dislike the man, at least his daughter was over there... that I will give him... even if she was not in uniform.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:21 AM
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11. It was always the plan.
Iraq was to be run as a neoconservative lab experiment. I remember reading the chilling, unselfconscious hubris of it before the war. If it wasn't so late, I'd try digging up some links.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:41 AM
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16. The NEOCONS young GOP IN Charge
I have read many articles where the neocons elitist young rightwingers have taken over the Bush administration and all of its facets.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:39 AM
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15. "It was then that she realized, she said, that 'I was all grown up.'"
Edited on Sun May-23-04 01:40 AM by Eye and Monkey
From the WP article -
I laughed," she said. And then she showed him the door. It was then that she realized, she said, that "I was all grown up."

These people are sick. They have no clue how they have totally screwed up people's lives so that they could have their little self-indulgent personal growth experience.

They think that almost is good enough, just like Junior. They will run this country, and the whole world, straight into the ground.



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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:22 AM
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17. Kerry (if he wins) will need to clean these people out
Obviously the higher up people will leave, but these lower level neo-cons need to be given a one way Metro ticket out of the Pentagon. If not, they could make life real difficult for a Kerry Administration.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:22 AM
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18. delete
Edited on Sun May-23-04 02:23 AM by bluestateguy
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:57 AM
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20. Oh my. What an interesting punishment.
For the rest of their lives they'll be denying they had anything to do with murder and torture.

Gosh, wasn't it wonderful that George and Rummy picked them. What a privilege! What good luck!

A descent into hell before death. A preview as it were.
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 05:06 AM
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23. makes you wonder who are the good guys and who are the bad guys over there
n/t
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 05:17 AM
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24. I actually read the whole article
This bunch were like children let loose in a serious situation, causing havoc with simplistic thinking, even when well intentioned (although I hasten to add, wrongly intentioned). To think that one of the oldest civilizations in the world had a bunch of children who didn't even speak the local language parachuted in to try to run it, it just boggles the mind. Talk about the arrogance of power.
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EdGy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:40 AM
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33. the US does this exact same thing everywhere
In the Balkans, the projects were being run by exactly this type of person.

People I know there said they were insulted by the people the US was sending over. And they were this exact kind of person. Young, fresh out of graduate school, clueless but not even knowing they were clueless, in charge of millions of dollars, making decisions that impacted the fate of local communities but not even thinking about the effects their very presence was having on locals.

This is the face of US imperialism. Exactly the same in Iraq, Kosovo, Bosnia, wherever the US is present on the ground.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:34 AM
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27. "a strong economy with high-paying jobs, functioning factories.."
"they had come seeking to establish a strong economy with high-paying jobs, functioning factories.."

could we have that, too, please?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:39 AM
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28. Isn't Dan Senor part of this program?
I thought Senor came from Heritage, or was it AEI?
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 06:53 AM
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29. 'should have filled those seats with CPA people..'
"I was ashamed for all of us that there were so few people there," Ledeen remembered. "We should have filled those seats with CPA people to thank them for their sacrifice for us. We should have filled those seats."

As if gratitude from the occupier would make it better.

I can understand this sentiment at age 28. But I wonder whether SHE would have attended if she had not gotten to know this woman. Is this part of the "Suffering is real only when it affects you personally" mentality?

"We should have filled those seats with CPA people".. so why didn't we? Because Iraqis are just objects for the neocons to play out their fantasies upon?

Obviously, Hadeel should have had a wedding not a funeral..wish Ledeen gave some indication of wanting to understand why "they hate us so".
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 07:20 AM
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30. Creating the next generation of Nazis.
How sweet.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 08:15 AM
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31. Instead of Peace Corps: Neocon Pillage Corps
It explains why the childrens conditions are worse than before the war. Why the only medicines making it to the hospitals come from NGO's. Now a group of fascists are going to teach the "little brown people" about democracy. Reminds me of China's Cultural Revolution.
God help the Iraqi people.
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ColdWarZoomie Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:22 AM
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32. Now I Understand the Rush to 30 June
Edited on Sun May-23-04 09:25 AM by ColdWarZoomie
From what I understand, 1 July the Embassy takes over and the CPA will be no more.

Now I understand the rush to "sovereignty." We really need to send these CPA knuckleheads home and get the experienced folks at State taking over this disaster.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:43 AM
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34. OMG. What. A. Mess. (nt)
Edited on Sun May-23-04 09:44 AM by w4rma
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