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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 06:28 AM
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CIA interrogations 'too brutal'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3709793.stm

Thursday, 13 May, 2004

US officials have said the CIA's methods of interrogating suspected al-Qaeda leaders are too brutal, the New York Times reports.

Unnamed counter-terrorism officials told the paper that CIA methods were so severe, the FBI had directed its agents to stay out of many of the interviews.

The techniques are said to have been authorised by the Bush administration after the 9/11 attacks on the US.

<snip>

"Some people involved in this have been concerned for quite a while that eventually there would be a new president, or the mood in the country would change, and they would be held accountable," one was quoted as saying.

"Now that's happening faster than anybody expected."



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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 06:30 AM
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1. And a shot back at the CIA (from the Bush admin)...
IIRC, the CIA pulled its interrogators out of Abu Ghraib because MI's interrogation methods were... well, we all know what they were now...
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 06:42 AM
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2. This is unacceptable!
From the article:
The whereabouts of high-level al-Qaeda detainees is a closely guarded secret, and human rights groups have been denied access to the prisoners.

Officials say some have been sent abroad.

"There was a debate after 9/11 about how to make people disappear," a former intelligence official told the paper.

The government was advised that if the CIA was considering procedures which violated the Geneva Convention or US laws prohibiting torture and degrading treatment, it would not be held responsible if it could be argued that the detainees were in the custody of another country.
(snip)
This is a GREAT article, DoYouEverWonder. I pray it will be followed by many more in the same vein.



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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 12:46 PM
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6. This sounds like conspiracy to me:

"The government was advised that if the CIA was considering procedures which violated the Geneva Convention or US laws prohibiting torture and degrading treatment, it would not be held responsible if it could be argued that the detainees were in the custody of another country."

I hope that human rights lawyers around the world are paying close attention.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 07:07 AM
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3. the whitehouse is in an all out
war with the cia..what a truly inept president ,he has managed to turn the cia against him.. how much trouble are really we in???
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 07:10 AM
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4. Trouble? This is a national crisis
Look at the talking heads lately? They all look like they are either at a funeral or in shock. The gig is up and they know it. I just hope they don't do to much physical destruction in the process.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 07:34 AM
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5. this has been a question that I have had for Freepers
for a long time:

Would you give these powers to a Democrat? If the answer is no, why the hell are you giving them now?

"Some people involved in this have been concerned for quite a while that eventually there would be a new president, or the mood in the country would change, and they would be held accountable," one was quoted as saying.

"Now that's happening faster than anybody expected."
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 01:29 PM
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7. "Unnamed counter-terrorism officials"...
...perhaps someone associated with the NeoCon, Pentagon-based OSP?

Remember, the CIA pulled out of the interrogations when things got bad in Iraq.
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whitestar Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 02:02 PM
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8. Maybe
Just maybe "Operation Phoenix" has been renamed "Copper Green" as School of the Americas was renamed.

Seems to be the way of doing things now.

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