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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 09:39 PM
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Taliban told US it would give up Osama (in 2000) : report
United States and Taliban officials met secretly in Frankfurt almost a year before the September 11 attacks to discuss terms for the Afghans to hand over Osama bin Laden, according to a German television documentary.

No agreement was reached and no further negotiations took place before the suicide hijackings in 2001, which bin Laden subsequently hailed in a videotape as the work of his Al Qaeda network.

ZDF television quoted Kabir Mohabbat, an Afghan-American businessman, as saying he tried to broker a deal between the Americans and the purist Islamic Taliban rulers of Afghanistan, who were sheltering bin Laden.

He quoted Taliban foreign minister Mullah Wakil Ahmed Mutawakil as saying: "You can have him whenever the Americans are ready. Name us a country and we will extradite him".

A German member of the European Parliament, Elmar Brok, confirmed that he had helped Mr Mohabbat in 1999 to establish initial contact with the Americans.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1125339.htm
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notbush Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 10:00 PM
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1. The date would be 3 months before Bushco selection
Are you blaming this in Clinton?
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 10:36 PM
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3. I wish people wouldn't do that...
it's a post from a news article. It doesn't reflect MY position on anything. So I'm not blaming anyone - I'm just posting a LBN item.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 10:43 PM
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5. I like Clinton. The Taliban rated international recognition extremely -
extremely high on their list of priorities. When Clinton ordered the cruise missiles in '98, I was livid because I thought he could have had Osama if he had just publicly announced some form of recognition negotiations with the Taliban. Even after the cruise missiles, after a cooling off, I have confidence that the same opportunities existed.

It goes without saying that BushCo would never have negotiated recognition with the Taliban.

And by the way, yes, I do have direct experience with the situation. I was in Afghanistan during these times. I met with Talibs on a daily basis. So, yes, I do think that I know a little bit about what they might have been thinking.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 10:31 PM
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2. Nothing new here. Richard Clarke covers this in his book.
The Taliban said their Islamic obligation as a host to take in those who sought shelter forbid them from turning over bin Laden. They said they would convene a court of Islamic scholars to try bin Laden if we would like to provide the evidence and accusations. Of course this was before 9/11 and even before the Cole bombing.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 10:44 PM
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6. Could "Islamic obligation"="republican $"?
I put nothing past them...
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Longhorn79 Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 10:59 PM
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7. But this refutes what you just said
The article said the Taliban was cooperating; was agreeable to handing him over.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 11:03 PM
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8. Not really, it doesn't. The Islamic court may have been the mechanism -
- just a mechanism with a foregone conclusion.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-04 10:41 PM
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4. Correction: which bin laden subsequently denied in several interviews
but which a fake bin Laden subsequently hailed in a videotape as the work of his Al Qaeda network.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html

And even the fake bin laden forgot to claim responsibility for planning the attacks.

I know it's boring repeating this over and over, but if the media keep presenting that tape as real, what am I to do?

Bin Ladin denials:
An aide for Mr Bin Laden quoted him as denying he had planned the attack, but calling it a "punishment from Allah".

"I have no information about the attackers or their aims and I don't have any links with them," the aide quoted Mr Bin Laden as saying.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1543135.stm

October 16, 2001-- An interview with Osama bin Laden was published in a Karachi-based Pakistani daily newspaper, Ummat, on September 28, 2001. In this interview, bin Laden says of the September 11 attacks in the US:

"I have already said that I am not involved in the September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks..."

Source: BBC Monitoring Service

http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?DocumentID=2392&TagID=2

Al qaeda, as it is presented to us, is a HOAX. FAKE. MYTH.
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