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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:41 AM
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Bush declares end of Iraq rift at EU summit
I think he should have said end of "major rift operations," just in case...

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5521090&pageNumber=0

NEWMARKET-ON-FERGUS, Ireland (Reuters) - President Bush declared an end on Saturday to Western rifts over Iraq but won little in his search for European military help and took heat over prisoner abuse.

"The bitter differences of the war are over," Bush told a news conference, which was delayed by anti-American protests staged around the lightning U.S.-EU summit in Ireland.

Fenced off from his detractors by 2,000 soldiers and 4,000 police -- a third of the Irish security forces -- Bush holed up in a picturesque western Irish castle with European Union leaders before flying to Turkey ahead of a NATO summit.

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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:43 AM
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1. HUH?
...so he just walks in and "delcares" its over? Thats arrogant. If they aren't sending military help what is his marker for that statement? Because he said so? Oh Brother.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:52 AM
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3. The E-uinion is helping forgive Iraqi debt.
At what cost to us ?
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DoktorGreg Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:54 AM
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5. Why would anyone disagree with him?
Every time someone disagree's they get hit with reprisals and what not...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:37 PM
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32. Me me me
Can I declare Bush over? Can I, can I, can I, please, please, please lemme just declare Bush over!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:46 AM
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2. Protesters are waiting for him in Turkey
Made to stand far away as usual. The most dispised man on earth is creating protest-pens everywhere he goes. Why doesn't he just stay home. Nobody can afford all the security the bastard needs.
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:56 AM
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6. He seems to revel in it
You make a very good point, Joanne98. He is a pariah. What is so weird is that not only does he not seem to mind, I think he believes the extra security is a compliment to him.

I saw that interview with the Irish journalist yesterday. Not only was Bush arrogant beyond belief, but but he seemed delusional in his "correctness." I am really starting to think the man is psychotic.

When most of the planet seems to understand he is a menace and worse, why is it that nearly half the U.S. population thinks he walks on water?

s_m

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:01 PM
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8. I have known he is psychotic for a good year now...
he scares the crap outa me and can't be evicted from the WH too soon. :scared:
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hel Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:26 PM
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11. Protests are under way even now
Bush will be arriving in Ankara in a few hours, and there are 5000 people protesting there right now.

People are coming to Istanbul to protest Bush and NATO on Monday from all over the country. I think it will be quite something.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:53 AM
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4. Hand me the STUPID STICK!
I've got work to do.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 11:58 AM
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7. The rift is over... because I declare it so...
what a bafoon. Still believing that God has sanctioned him as president, thus absolving him of any responsibility for his behavior (because, God being all-knowing, would know in advance exactly everything that he would do, and thus obviously has approved of it... according the simpleton's thinking (and his truest followers).)

Thus - all he has to do is declare it - and it is so...

Think he would start getting the clue that he has been declaring all sorts of things that haven't been true ... and that his presidency really doesn't follow the "Divine Right of Kings"...

Wonder how many people in the room, as he declared this, either choked down laughter or outrage? One of those moments were a panning camera would have been interesting.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:12 PM
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9. I declare the end of the Bush presidency.
"The bitter era of the Bush presidency is over."



...



...


Did it work?

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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:15 PM
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10. If things go as well as last time * declared something over, we can expect
the EU to invade the US sometime in the next few months.

"Bring it on"
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 04:02 PM
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28. ROTFL. So true. n/t
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:29 PM
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12. How diplomatic.
:puke::argh:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:31 PM
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13. rut roh
major rift program activites..........
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:05 PM
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18. Oh CatWoman... pfhttdltlpphhdt!!
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:34 PM
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14. I love it when Shrub declare the end of things. Makes me think back to
his BS on the carrier. :evilgrin:
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 02:18 PM
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23. Or the June 30 end of the occupation
We Won.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:36 PM
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15. On behalf of American allies, I forgive myself completely. n/t
Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 12:36 PM by gulliver
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 12:54 PM
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16. The idiot!
Just like when he says the economy is booming he thinks everyone will believe him.
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Hortex Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:05 PM
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17. A Little Late.....
Dipshit. I have never even run an oil country and I could have figured that one out years agao.
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:06 PM
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19. I'll believe him,
like hell I will. the last time he declared an end its been hell to pay since. Bring um on
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:06 PM
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20. Bush surrenders?

He's not going to ask for any NATO money or troops to help in Iraq?

What a dumbass.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:10 PM
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21. Amazing, no??
HE starts all the shit, and then decides that HE can call an "end" to it??

Reminds me of the guy who beats the hell out of his wife, and then says .."Honey, let's not fight anymore...lets go to bed "..
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 01:20 PM
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22. He may have declared it's over, but I don't think they saw it that way:
<snip
"NATO has the capability and I believe the responsibility to help the Iraqi people defeat the terrorist threat that's facing their country," Bush said.
<snip
So, did he get the troops? NOPE.

<snip>
In their private talks and a joint U.S.-EU statement, European leaders made clear their disquiet over both the detention of terror suspects in Guantanamo Bay in Cuba and the U.S. military abuse of prisoners at Iraq's Abu Ghraib jail.
<snip>
So did he get a pass on the prisoner/torture issue? NOPE.

<snip>
The statement pointedly stressed "the need for full respect of the Geneva Conventions."
<snip>
So did he get to give himself immunity from war crimes? NOPE.

So, what did the little thug get? Actually NOTHING. Countries saying that they're willing to forgive Iraq some of its indebtedness aren't giving up anything, they'll never see the money anyway.

This is just like his statement that most of Europe (except France) agreed with his decision to attack Iraq. Just pathetic delusional thinking.

At any other time in the history of this country someone who was as irrational and looney as bush* is would have been hauled out of our White House in a straight jacket. Instead the basket case just prances all around the globe ensuring the the rest of the world understands just exactly what kind of thugs are running our government. I don't believe for one second that the Europeans or anyone else has 'gotten over' any of this.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 02:31 PM
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24. If oxygen ever gets to that mans brain
he will explode from the pressure change..
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dw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 02:38 PM
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25. I love the irony in this sentence...
"The bitter differences of the war are over," Bush told a news conference, which was delayed by anti-American protests staged around the lightning U.S.-EU summit in Ireland.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 02:45 PM
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26. LOL! Someone better tell the masses that it's "over"
One reporter said that a 10 minute ride to the site of the press conference which should take 10 minutes, took almost an hour and a half because of the protests.

Yeah, the rift is "over".:eyes:
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 02:53 PM
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27. The pinnacle of arrogance.
Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 03:26 PM by Buzzz
It's over because Georgie says it's over. Who cares what anybody else thinks?

Apparently he thinks those "differences" amount to a little feud that can be resolved with a few manipulative phrases. Shallow, George, very shallow.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 04:09 PM
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29. Yep, that's our narcissist in chief for ya
But I think many people here are missing what the real truth behind some of his most blatant, um, exaggerations is, and that is: he says what he wants people to believe -- not the folks he's addressing, but the people at home. The soundbytes get reported, people here who DON'T pay attention believe it, etc. IOW: Pure, purposeful PROPAGANDA.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:23 PM
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30. Tell the 'uniter, not a divider' to trot right out in the middle of Iraqi
cities and tell them it's all over.

And remind him to take his inedible turkey sidekick with him.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 05:25 PM
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31. Let's make sure we understand this
it is NOT "anti - american"..

it is ANTI-BUSH.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 06:04 PM
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33. I laughed when I read this
Edited on Sat Jun-26-04 06:08 PM by Marianne
He actually thinks that because he says so, something is true . He actually believes that if he says it is over, it is over.

I don't think so.

I think it is just another propagandist ploy to convince the dumbheads who support him that he ended it, and we, of course won, and anything that happens now is not his fault.


And, as usual and what I have come to expect, no one challenges him. He may get away with it and we may be watching another Moore documemtary about how the American people blandly stood by and let it all happen.

Except, Preseident Bush in 2004, will not allow any of it to be shown to the American people. His daddy's Carlylse group did not buy Loew's without any sort of plan in mind.

If he is elected for another four years, we will not recognize our country as the country we knew any longer. Moore will not be able to ask: "Dude Where's My Country?" He will be as impotent as the rest of us under the fascism of Bush, a Bush enabled and supported by more than half the citizens, as a killer and murderer who lied to his own people and who indeed killed his own people by sending them, to tjheir deaths in Iraq, on lies, and NOT to defend our country, which the uneducated troops beleive, but to get for him and his buddies what Iraq had that he wanted. Oil and a stragtegic occpation to control thje rest of the Muslim world.

I would not be surprised if Moore falls prey to a plane crash.

Bush has got to be defeated and he has got to be exposed as the ignorant tyrant that he is. We must oust him and kick his sorry ass, and the big ass of his Stepford frump, out of our house.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-26-04 06:12 PM
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34. He's just rift-raff; the "because I said so administration" strikes again
Idiot.
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