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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:26 AM
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US reveals Iraq nuclear operation
The US has revealed that it removed more than 1.7 metric tons of radioactive material from Iraq in a secret operation last month.
"This operation was a major achievement," said US Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham in a statement.

He said it would keep "potentially dangerous nuclear materials out of the hands of terrorists".

Along with 1.77 tons of enriched uranium, about 1,000 "highly radioactive sources" were also removed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/middle_east/3872201.stm
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:31 AM
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1. So why were the weapons inspectors oblivious to this
exactly how did the weapons inspectors never find these goodies and why did the US military keep them out of the loop until after it is already removed
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:37 AM
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3. This is KNOWN radioactive material . . .
Edited on Wed Jul-07-04 05:38 AM by ET Awful
you know the stuff that everyone knew was there forever that had been sealed by UN inspectors a decade ago, etc.

Most likely what you're discussing is stuff like iridium sources (used to verify weld integrity in pipeline structures, etc.). This isn't material that could ever be used to make a nuclear device, but could be used in a "dirty" bomb. The "highly radioactive sources" are legitimate items that ANY NATION WITH A LARGE PIPELINE would have, it's the only way to verify integrity of welds. It basically means nothing.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:37 AM
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they weren't
Almost none of the Uranium is Nuke-Grade. Leftovers from the nuclear program.
After the war, many nuclear research facilities were looted. There were quite shocking reports about people using radioactive materials to build shacks.

Apparently the uranium was removed from Iraq just in time for Bremer's escape.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:01 AM
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13. All that uranium was declared and under UN seal prior to the war
Iraqi personnel never tampered with any of these sealed materials.

Some of it, however, was looted after the war because US forces left these facilities completely unguarded.

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Voice_of_Europe Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:58 AM
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5. Not weapons..

because those are not weapons... those are various radiological devices that could be used for socalled dirty bombs but not for actual nuclear weapons.. they don't count as WMD...
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 06:24 AM
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6. None of it was illegal or undisclosed. It was just materials used for
nuclear devices such as power, perhaps radiation for xrays and mris. There is no mention in the article that the materials were used for weaponry. Most of it was just uranium.

Hell, it sounds like the US pilfered it for their own use. Mpre theft of iraqi resources.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 08:11 AM
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9. Well, isn't that special?
Don't the Iraqis need xrays and MRIs?
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:36 AM
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2. Last month?
Just another "time-sensitive" front page above-the-fold headline...

guaranteed to shore up the repuke base

and be soundly debunked on p. D-28 in a week or two.
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Oggy Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 05:37 AM
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4. How much of this
was Depleted Uranium left by the US and UK military? :-)
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bos1 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 06:54 AM
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7. It's not WMD, and was already known about for 4 years
This low enriched stuff has been known about for at least 4 years (see below), and apparently the fact that it hasn't been diverted shows that in effect the Saddam regime was complying with the restrictions on this one, too.

That explains why the administration gave the announcement to the lowly Energy Secretary (instead of having Rumsfeld or Bush crow about it), and the careful wording of his statement (it is not even called a "discovery"), and why FOX etc. isn't ballyhooing it.

It seems that the Bush administration is not even trying to pretend this is "WMD" evidence.

From a Nuclear Control Institure press release of Jan. 2000
http://www.nci.org/pr/pr11200a.htm
IAEA inspectors will attempt to verify that Iraq has not diverted some 1.7 metric tons of uranium enriched to 2.6% U-235 (so-called “low enriched uranium,” or LEU). According to officials involved in the decisions, the IAEA decided in late 1991 or early 1992 to permit Iraq to keep this LEU, as well as some 13 metric tons of natural uranium, for possible future use in a ‘peaceful’ nuclear program.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 08:02 AM
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8. How about revealing Israeli nuclear operations?
Every country in the ME should be armed with nuclear weapons to protect itself from the US and Israel. History proves this.
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section321 Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:09 AM
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10. So I guess they removed all the barium from the hospitals?
eom
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:13 AM
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11. Here's a list of related stories over the last year
Edited on Wed Jul-07-04 10:14 AM by Barrett808
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=668676&mesg_id=668773

I'm somewhat skeptical of this story -- I understood that all this stuff was looted, because the Texecutioner failed to secure and guard the nuclear sites at Tuwaitha (preferring instead to guard the oil fields).
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ItsThePeopleStupid Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:51 AM
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12. which is probably why
they had Spencer Abraham announce this in order to play it down--you never know, someone in our mainstream media might bring up the history of this stuff. For all the talk of WMDs before the invasion, the US military didn't even bother to guard Tuwaitha. If Osama wanted to make a dirty bomb, all he would have had to do is send someone there.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:37 PM
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14. In addition, Greenpeace found that the people of Tuwaitha were exposed...
...to the looted radioactives and had symtpoms of radiation poisoning. The US would not allow IAEA inspectors to check the local population, and allowed inspection of only one of the seven sites.
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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 12:49 PM
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15. So this stuff was so "dangerous"
it could be left in Iraq for over a year after the fall of Saddam?
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ItsThePeopleStupid Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 02:36 PM
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16. IAEA: removing it was illegal
The Energy Department said it seized the materials "consistent with its authorities and relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions," and removed them from Iraq "to ensure the safety and security of the Iraqi people."

But IAEA officials said the United States lacked the legal authority to seize the materials.

"Now that the Americans have taken it, the IAEA has no access to it and no right to account for it or inspect it," said one agency official, speaking on condition of anonymity.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=J5YF3Z1SCDPHMCRBAEKSFEY?type=topNews&storyID=5611283&pageNumber=1
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