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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:10 AM
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Breaking News...Bush Admin. warns of another terrorist attack
before the election. Trying to change the subject/news/media away from Kerry/Edwards campaign... back to crying wolf again.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:12 AM
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1. I don't even listen to them any more
I read a local newspaper and get the rest of my information online.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:12 AM
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2. But oiley Dick said were safer with Saddam gone.
Have they raised the threat level to red yet?
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:15 AM
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4. That is why it is so suspicious. They are saying they have specific
information are not going to raise the alert status.

So, they have specific information that terrorists are in operational stages to attack the American people again but there isn't a need to raise the alert level?

Kerry/Edwards must be taking to much of the spotlight and the spoiled rotten brat we have for a pResident can't stand it. Screw them all.
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:06 PM
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69. Not according to CNN...
Ridge said U.S. officials have no precise knowledge of the time, place or method of attack

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/07/08/ridge.alqaeda/index.html

The truth is, this is nothing more than to get Ken Lay off the front page.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:13 AM
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3. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Can't wait to get these fearmongers out of town.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:37 PM
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79. Me too.
I sure hope this "color coded alert" shit disappears when Kerry/Edwards take office. It's so contrived - no one pays attention any longer except all the Freepers who love to live every day in a perpetual state of negativity and fear.
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Dork Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 02:08 PM
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82. I agree
Plus shouldn't it go Red Orange Yellow Green Blue instead of Blue Green? That doesn't make sense to me. Not that we will ever get to anything below yellow in my lifetime.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 02:16 PM
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84. To which I would like to add
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 02:17 PM by rocknation
:boring:
rocknation
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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:15 AM
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5. Saw the clue yesterday
When they announced homeland security was meeting with senators. This is sad, my first thought was oh, yes another fake warning to take momentum away from Kerry. They have used this so many times to divert attention that if this is a real threat we don't believe it.
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fdr_hst_fan Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:23 AM
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11. This is true, but I wonder
what kind of spin they'll put on it if it IS true and we (average shlubs) do nothing?
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:46 AM
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37. but what are we avg schlubs supposed to do?
Stock up on duct tape? :shrug:
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 06:01 PM
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94. What are we supposed to do?
Nothing. Because it's bullshit. It's the misadministration's stock response to bad news-Edwards and Kerry on the front pages for the past couple days, Kenny-Boy becoming tomorrow's cover boy, etc. Anything to change the subject, but W should beware-the story is wearing thin. Check out the poll on Lou Dobb's show, when I looked at it, about 10 minutes ago, 88% of the respondents voted that the alert was merely based on politics. Ridge said that it was going to be done to influence the election, which is not until November. No rise in the stupid color system? Big threat. :boring: So we're supposed to be freaked out for three or four months? No trips, no shopping? I think not. This is a diversion, and a stupid one, at that.
The results of the poll on Lou Dobbs was just announced-93% of the folks think it's just playing politics. Someone should tell Rove that the people aren't even listening anymore.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 06:50 PM
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95. I missed the Lou Dobbs poll
But I couldn't agree with you more. It's bullshit. I'm glad that there are signs that people are getting hip to that fact, like the Dobbs poll and the fact that commentators lately seem to be making a connection b/w bad news for bush and sudden random blips on the terror screen.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 06:54 PM
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96. You know it's getting bad for W
when even the usually-compliant newsmodels are questioning the cause of this new terror alert. And that's a good thing. :)
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:15 AM
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6. I have a warning for Bush:
"We're coming, you're going, and don't let the door hit you on the way out" and I didn't say that first.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:18 AM
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7. Coincidence? Ridge news conference schedule for 11AM? Same time
as Kerry/Edwards rally in Ft. Lauderdale?

The GOP is desperately trying to blunt the momentum that John Kerry's campaign for president has received with the selection of John Edwards as his running mate.

CNN terror advisor reports that his intelligence sources tell him that there is nothing new to suggest this level or concern on the part of Homeland Security-- that is, no specific threats.

The only difference, it seems, that Dubya is sending out Tom Ridge instead of John Ashcroft to scare and divert--since Ashcroft has no credibility left.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:19 AM
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8. i'm sure that's what they have planned, after all...
...how else could they justify cancelling the selection?

Hmm?

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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:21 AM
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9. Kenny Boy in handcuffs ... raise things to orange alert ...
I'm trying to figure out the "timing" of Ken Lay's indictment ...

Martha Stewart was FIFO ... first (fast?) in, first out) ...

why has the DOJ waited until now?

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JM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:30 AM
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17. Timing is obvious
1) Close to election so with the short attention span of the public, it looks like Enron is being punished close to the election
2) In the unlikely event Lay actually gets convicted by some liberal/communist/tratorous judge, his stay will be cut short by a pardon right after the election

JM
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:06 AM
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55. Exactly, Bush setback, next day terra alert n/t
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 08:36 PM
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100. Don't count your chickens to fast...* may be serious in attacking the U.S.
He is desparate at all costs!!!

His polls WILL fall either way!!!
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:13 AM
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110. You're right/Bush Regime working out Procedures Cancel Elections
Yea, you're right!

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/TAR407B.html

But I think the new "alert" was intended for
House Patriot Act vote,

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040708/D83MTBT80.html

Still happening on CSPAN.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 02:58 PM
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90. Lay's case is much more complicated
and there are numerous serious crimes that had to be investigated.

All Martha did was listen to her broker and sell off some stock.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:22 AM
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10. you can set your watch by these f***ing assholes
so g.d. predictable
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r_u_stuck2 Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:24 AM
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12. When will we see Duct Tape?
Will they be saying buy Duct Tape and plastic again? Is that the next step?
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:28 AM
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13. Bill Frist on CNN pushing the terror threat and said an official
announcement will be made later by Tom Ridge...Stay tuned...we'll be talking about this all day. The media are all too happy to go with an exciting terror alert that a boring campaign. Say good-by to any more free Kerry/Edwards stories...the news media just lost all interest.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:28 AM
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14. We are still concerned about terrorist attacks
If we are still concerned about terrorist attacks, then it is because Mr. Bush's war on terrorism is a failure. Invading Iraq, which had no associations with al Qaida and was hardly a threat to a high school drill team, could not make Americans safer from the likes of Osama and his fellow thugs. It was a waste of time, resources and most of all human lives. There are 138,000 US troops in Iraq who are on occupation duty and not hunting down Osama.
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DubyaSux Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:28 AM
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15. Bush's War On Terror...
Gee, I feel so much safer now.
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Crachet2004 Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:30 AM
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16. Every time they do this, they lose credibility.
If a terrorist attack hits this country, George Bush is going to be blamed, period.
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No Passaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:51 PM
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104. What're you crazy?
It's gonna be BILL CLINTON'S FAULT!
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theshadow Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:31 AM
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18. Can you say "red herring"?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:31 AM
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19. The usual Totalitarianism 101. The Marketing Geniuses (evil) that work
for the Imperial Family don't usually use such a heavy hand.

They are desperate, cornered animals who would think nothing of allowing thousands of Americans to be killed if it suits their purpose.

9-11 showed us that quite clearly.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:31 AM
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20. But is it really crying wolf, when it's the wolf crying?
They want this, and they need this. And they'll do all they can to make it happen.

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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:39 PM
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76. Good point (n/t)
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:32 AM
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21. BOO!!!
:scared: :scared: :scared:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:32 AM
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22. There were only REPUKES at that "top secret" meeting in the "bunker" room
at the capitol.

HOW COME NO DEMOCRATIC SENATORS WERE INVITED - AGAIN - TO SUCH AN IMPORTANT MEETING?

Oh, I forgot, bunkerboy told us all to "fuck 'em all" at his cabinet meeting when questioned about his dick's recent comments to Leahy.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:35 AM
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23. This is what I'd like to know, too
if it's true about only Republicans being in the meeting. The credibility of the threat warning is lost without providing it in a bi-partisan manner in my book.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:32 PM
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75. any fellow tin foilers think the Repubs got a memo at that meeting
telling them what days NOT to show up at the Capital Building?
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theshadow Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:35 AM
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24. Oh good, another set of....
"super secret" instructions from Homeland Security to all of us law enforcement people, which will then be broadcast on the networks within a couple of hours. Useful info about watching the ports and nuclear powerplants, look out for people wearing long coats in warm weather or muttering to themselves. I mutter to myself everytime I see Bush on television!
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JM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:38 AM
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25. There is another possibility
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 09:39 AM by JM
Not long ago, a non-government group working with DHS made a major score against a terror cell in the US. It was not publicized. I know this because a close personal friend works in this the group. He asked that I not publish the details (where, when and how) even though the info he told me was not yet classified at the time.

Before you flame me...

First, he has integrity and everything he has ever told me that came out later in the news was right on the money.

Second, I have never seen him nervous until recently.

Third, the fact this score was not publicized leads me to believe his group was trying to probe further up the chain. This announcement may be a result of the original action.

The timing stinks to high heaven, but the event behind the announcement *may* be real.

JM
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:43 AM
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31. Okay...
I'll give them that this may be real based on what you've said. But I still want to know why this administration is making a concerted effort to be partisan in sharing the information supposedly to get help with getting it out to the American people.

Wait...I know...I just think it sucks and demonstrates their true nature of a wish to stay in power rather than working for the people of this country. :mad:
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Longhorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:45 AM
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35. But if that's true, why wouldn't they raise the alert status?
Do they have to wait until a press conference to raise the alert level? This sounds political to me and I suspect it -- or something like it -- will happen every time Kerry-Edwards get positive press.
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JM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:52 AM
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40. According to my source
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 09:59 AM by JM
one of the big problems DHS has been wrestling with is why to make an announcement at all much less change the alert level if there is nothing the public can do.

Ashcroft was heavily criticized after the last alert since there was nothing the public could do. His announcement was made based on intelligence agencies losing surveillance on the 9 suspects they posted.

Subsequently, I think the FBI alert about eco-terror was bogus because it coincided with the info I got about the unannounced bust. I am thinking they had to be able to alert the police in specific areas without raising alarms all over the country. I have nothing solid to base this hunch on, however.

Of course with today's announcement, the Repubs and Bush call attention to themselves if no Dems were in the meeting.

JM

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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 11:01 AM
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65. I was with you until........
one of the big problems DHS has been wrestling with is why to make an announcement at all much less change the alert level if there is nothing the public can do.

The color code system activates certain actions, and it has nothing to do with the public. If they go to Orange that would mean that extra security would be required on a federal, state, and local level. It would also mean that airports would have to expand their security.

All this shit would cost MONEY; something that the feds, state, and local govs just don't have. Not to mention the economic impact it would have on the airline industry, which is finally "making a comeback" after 9/11.

Also, I'm aware of only one NGO that provides "intelligence" to our government and they are....looney-tunes. It pisses me off that our government would even entertain the idea of using NGO's for our National Security, but that's just my opinion.
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JM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:29 PM
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74. You are probably right
I should have rephrased it. They are probably using two different alerting systems now, but I am just guessing. I know they have been alerting the police, etc. behind the scenes.

As for the NGOs, I am not sure which one you are referring to, but the one I am aware of has a world-wide reputation of excellence at what they do, and they have been doing it on behalf of the public and private sector years before DHS was ever though of.

JM
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:45 AM
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36. Well, that's always been the problem with crying wolf...
The fact is that we ALL know that another attack could (and likely will) take place. No one here really disputes that.

The issue is that the terror alerts issued by this administration coincide quite closely with good news for their opponents or with bad news for themselves, or both (like today's).

Basically, if you "cry terror" often enough, pretty soon no one believes you anymore and they ignore it (or worse, don't even notice) and go on about their merry little lives and when the worst does happen, we'll all be standing around holding our ****s in our hands, instead of doing the necessary things, because we've become innured to the alerts by their constant threatening position.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:38 AM
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26. How optimistic ........
Isn't Cheney/Bush saying how optimistic they are? Optimistic of what? Optimistic that there is going to be another terrorist attack?
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:39 AM
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27. WWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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TERRA TERRA TERRA TERRA TERRA TERRA TERRA TERRA TERRA TERRA
TERRA TERRA WE ARE SCARED OF KERRY/EDWARDS TERRA TERRA TERRA
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:40 AM
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29. You got that right matcom!
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:39 AM
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28. These guys are too predictable, but you know what is scary
is the fact that there we could be attacked again because of bushies failures to protect the homeland.

Everytime the positive attention is pulled away from them, here comes another warning. Are these guys really just making this up, or is someone playing them and whispering "boo" in amongst the chatter and making them jump? Thanks to bushie and his gang we will never know when to take these threats seriously.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:42 AM
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30. Here is a CNN Link - Official: Ridge to say al Qaeda planning attack
Official: Ridge to say al Qaeda planning attack
Thursday, July 8, 2004 Posted: 10:38 AM EDT (1438 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge is expected to say at a Thursday briefing that the al Qaeda terrorist group may be entering the "operational or planning phase of an attack," an administration official said Thursday.

It's believed, the official said, al Qaeda will attempt to strike before the November presidential election, the official added.

No new specific intelligence exists, and Ridge will not announce that he is raising the national color-coded threat level beyond the yellow, or elevated, level.

It was not immediately clear how the assessment of existing intelligence has led Ridge to his planned remarks.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/07/08/ridge.alqaeda/index.html
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:44 AM
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32. WE AREN'T EVEN GOING TO L'ORANGE?
phony bastards
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:59 AM
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48. weird
the headline is "Official: Ridge to say al Qaeda planning attack"

then the second paragraph "No new specific intelligence exists, and Ridge will not announce that he is raising the national color-coded threat level beyond the yellow, or elevated, level."

Talk about a mixed message, but it also shows the extent the simian and his fellow sub-humans will go to wit media manipulation.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:05 AM
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53. This is nothing new - they've already been spouting this sort of crap
off and on since sortly after the Spain incident. :wtf: It's got to be the Kerry/Edwards bounce. First they push the idea that Edwards lacks experience, hasn't served in the military, blah, blah, blah. And now with that BS freshly planted in the minds, we get this BS.

These suckers are sooooo transparent.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:44 AM
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33. CNN:
"Wednesday's "members-only threat update" -- as described by a notice about the briefing -- followed one Tuesday night at the White House for House and Senate leaders."

Members only???
Are WE not members... the ones that will bear the brunt of this attack if it is real?

This secrecy is unconscionable
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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:44 AM
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34. WAG THE DOG!!!!
boogey...boogey...boogey
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Wolftone378 Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:46 AM
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38. Terrorist Attack
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah! I don't listen to them anymore either. These were the guys that were so on top of things that we lost the WTC, found a hole in the Pentagon, and killed other innocents in PA. I'd say the credibility factor is a big fat zero~ :puke:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:50 AM
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39.  another terrorist attack = canceled elections = only way bush* can win
MIHOP...nuff said...and you can bet he gunning for the democratic convention in boston :scared:

desperate people do desperate things
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Hobo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:53 AM
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41. This is Bullshit..........
A blatant attempt to take focus off of Kerry/Edwards.

Link here



Read this part:

Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge is expected to say at a Thursday briefing that the al Qaeda terrorist group may be entering the "operational or planning phase of an attack," an administration official said Thursday.

Snip

No new specific intelligence exists, and Ridge will not announce that he is raising the national color-coded threat level beyond the yellow, or elevated, level.

Snip

So they may be planning an attack, No shit? I don't know about you but I assume that the number one thing terrorist do is plan attacks. Thats what they do. Man we are being led by a group of idiots.

Bullshit.....pure unadulterated bullshit

Peace

Hobo
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:53 AM
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42. New Ground Zero
.... Boston?
Film at eleven
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:54 AM
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43. Specific threat? Why aren't we going to CODE ORANGE?
n/t
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:55 AM
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44. Terrible truth
Because Bush*, Ridge, Cheney, Rummy et. al. have ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIBILITY, how would we ever know if there IS a serious terrorist threat?

The terrible truth is that we won't know.......

The unintended consequence of "crying wolf".

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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:33 AM
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63. Not unintended
"The unintended consequence of "crying wolf". "

This is the moral of the _Boy who cried Wolf_ tale. Keep raising alarm for no reason (other than fear or joke), people will cease to take you seriously. Thus when the real threat appears everybody is in greater danger because nobody takes your warnings seriously.




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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:55 AM
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45. "terrorists plan to disrupt the election"
hmmm--I wonder if Bush is planning on disrupting the election?

Or, "Hey, commie, you look like a terrorist. You're coming with me for Ashcroft's neighborhood sweep of likely suspects" on November 1.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:02 AM
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50. Yes, this is an invitation to attack
The jihadis know that Bush is the best thing for recruitment since the latest Palestinian intifada. They can't afford to lose Bush. If a big attack will delay/cancel the election, it becomes a high-priority strategic goal.
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:55 AM
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46. But ... but ... we're safe!
Because Boston is now instituting "random" searches on busses and the subway!!

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/conventions/articles/2004/07/08/searches_underway_on_buses_to_hub/

I'm sure that this will be VERY effective!! Random searches will obviously be a good tool to catch potential bus bombers! Yes, they'll randomly search innocent people, and maybe, just maybe, they might "randomly" apprehend someone.

Not.
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:58 AM
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47. Anthrax at the crapitol by lunchtime. n/t
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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:00 AM
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49. If we are attacked again....
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 10:01 AM by dubyaD40web
then it should become completely obvious the Bush Administration failed in the "War on Terra".

Why don't common people see this?
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:02 AM
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51. This is to make sure the July Surprise article/story
is not covered. They preempted the story.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:31 AM
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62. I agree! That is the story they don't want out there...
so they pull the old "terra on the march, beware, beware" stuff. It is always so obvious that these "breaking news - terror alerts" only seem to happen when there is a big, bad news for bush story hitting the airwaves.

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They_LIHOP Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 07:36 PM
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97. Not to mention the Kenny-boy story...
W/O this, we'd all be revisiting the Lay/Bush connections all day long.

Oh, and bad news for Oily Dick, too, with the commission stating that (although Dick's office is spinning furiously to make this story be 'in their favor') he didn't "know something" that the commission didn't know.

The main point, which will no doubt go unstated by the history-challenged media whores, is that this means DICK LIED about the SH/AlQ connections, AND his little "Probably" statement.

But no, the whores will happily spin it just like Unka Dick told them to, saying "See, he's INNOCENT of WITHOLDING information from the commission, everything's hunky-dory, the evil Dems are wrong as usual, go back to eating your grass you little sheeple out there in TV Land. Next up TERRA, DEATH, FEAR!!! Time to GOOOOOO SHOPPING!"
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:13 AM
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59. I think it will be obvious
the people are smartening up

they will ask questions now
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:03 AM
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52. What a huge farce!
Hey, you know, thanks for letting us all know. Now we can all structure our day in high terror alert fashion - in other words JUST LIKE ANY OTHER FREAKING DAY. What exactly is this information supposed to do for us besides scaring the kids? Here's a wacky suggestion you criminal thugs, how about you go do your job and thwart these terrorists without making us shit our pants all the time. Oh yeah, thats right, I forgot about the real reason behind these "terror alerts" :eyes:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:14 PM
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78. It's that exactly what the Clinton Admin. did?
........"how about you go do your job and thwart these terrorist without making us shit our pants all the time."
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:06 AM
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54. They're laying the groundwork, prepping the masses for the future
I would almost guarantee that if Bush is trailing Kerry by 8% or greater, where even vote scrubbing and BBV can't help him, we will have another LIHOP/MIHOP "terrorist" attack come late October, early November. Plans are already being laid on "postponing" the election(there was a thread on that around here a few days ago), and the sheeple have already made it abundantly clear that they would be willing to have martial law instigated in the event of another attack.

Thus Bush could continue to rule the country, only this would be his dream of it "being easier if he were a dictator" They aren't going to let go of power now that they have it. The only question is whether the people will rise up to force them out. Maybe, but somehow I seriously doubt it. More likely they will cheer the passing of the old republic.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:25 AM
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61. Marshall Law and Cancellation of Elections?????
They know they maynot be able to utilize the BBV to steal the elections due to the hard work of Bev Harris and the many who have been working with her and then John Kerry making statements that he has established attorney's and others to moniter the election process, etc., etc., "what to do," "what to do,"????????

How will they impose Marshall Law when they are unable maintain the military strenght for the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, and any other country they wish to impose their arrogance on. How will they control the voting booths without the appearance of local and federal police and military support.

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 11:45 AM
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68. Well, my thought is that they will bring some of the troops home
Call up others, call in a bunch of "contract security agents"(ie mercs) from Haliburton, and use the police, MPs, and other civil authorities.

Besides, most of the people in this country would welcome martial law with open arms. A survey taken about two years ago(sorry, I can't lay may hands on it it right now) showing the overwhelming majority of sheeple in this country not only would welcome martial law, but would demand it. These are the same people who believe that there should be limits on our freedoms, that there is too much freedom in our country now.

Yup, let another terrorist attack happen to get the people really scared, and stampede them right into martial law. Postpone the elections, and the mindless herd will go along with de facto dictatorship jus to feel safe. Shoot the few mavericks who dare to question where their rights and government went to, and quietly start shutting down organizations that dissent.

I'm sure there is a little plan for this scenario somewhere. I desperately hope that when crunch time comes, the American people will rise up to take their country back, but sadly I think that the vast majority of them will only rise up to turn the channel to "American Idol"
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:25 PM
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72. It's "Martial law" n/t
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:10 AM
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56. I don't understand
since 911 have there been any terrorist cells broken within the U.S.?

The American people are very vigilant right now, how come we can't find them, for the same reason we can't catch a cave dweller?

How are these people penetrating our borders? Are they being protected once in?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:11 AM
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57. AP: U.S. Boosts Security Amid Election Fears
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&ncid=716&e=1&u=/ap/20040708/ap_on_go_

<snip>
There's, obviously, no reason for panic, or paralysis," Frist said after a briefing for senators on intelligence matters. "The country is at some increased risk between now and the time of the presidential election. It's important for people to be aware of that."


"What is clear is that law enforcement has generally been notified. ... There are enhanced activities on behalf of law enforcement around the country to engage in deterrence and prevention," he said.


In April, a working group made up of representatives from agencies that touch on law enforcement, homeland security and intelligence was established to deal with a series of events through the election that may be attractive targets for terrorists, including the presidential nominating conventions.


Senior administration officials and counterterrorism experts view the coming months as a time to increase vigilance out of concern that Islamic militants may try to replicate the political success they had in Spain with coordinated pre-election train bombings.


:puke:
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 11:03 PM
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109. Success
they had in Spain with coordinated pre-election train bombings??? Why can't they just tell the truth for once!! The voting was because of the way the bombing was handled and the lies of the Spainish administration not because of the bombing itself. So what is this a set-up for?? If there is an attack, then the election must be delayed so it doesn't affect the election??
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:12 AM
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58. He's here...Herr Ridge with the serious blue backdrop.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:24 AM
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60. Yawn barely supressed.
Why am I not surprised?
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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:46 AM
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64. CNN seems to be calling them on it...good for them!!!
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 11:20 AM
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67. that's not the gist i'm getting
i'll hold off concluding anything until i see how long it takes for them to sink into that blackhole of useless commentary about the new threat announcement.

if they're saying that there are al-Q operatives here in the united states, how can they use zarkawi's (sp?) presence in iraq to justify irag-al-Q ties? and if they know that there are operatives here, why in God's name are they not doing anything about it?

this just stinks to high heaven.
and i'm afraid that we're only seeing the beginning of a new chapter. especially if the polls continue to favor kerry.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 11:10 AM
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66. Instead of reading "The Pet Goat" during the last terrorist attack
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 11:13 AM by jpak
Our Popular War President would have better served the country better if he had read "The BOY that Cried Wolf"...
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:13 PM
Original message
The Sky is falling, the rapture is coming...AAAAAggghhhhhh...
...What's new, right?


We all on the DU predicted this one coming....not one iota of new info, no raising of terror alerts, just more fear, fear, and more fear...how convenient that they keep dragging the same old innuendos w/ no substance every time they want to distract Americans...

So nice of our Executive branch terrorists to pre-announce their plans to postpone the elections in their quest to steal the Presidency AGAIN! Now. that's the real story!
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Salmo Trutta Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:13 PM
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70. Supreme Court bemoans loss of power....
Do you think the USSC is jealous?
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:21 PM
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71. ...cheap political trick by KKKarl Rove.....we're on to this.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 08:39 PM
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101. Cheap???.....Karl Rove would attack the U.S. at all costs!!!
Will we need memos for proof this time!!!

Or should we just arrest these ASS%oles immediately and permanently!!!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:27 PM
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73. Here we go again!
It is amazing how much BS we trend to take and how many times we fall prey to the same trap.

It can't go on!
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 12:56 PM
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77. Is anyone really surprised?
They just wanted to steal the K/E thunder... really sad state of affairs... gotta get these mofo's out...
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:45 PM
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80. What happened to the July 4th holiday threats???
Oh, well, maybe Cheney will go back in his hole and we won't have to look at his snarky face any more. (One can only hope.)
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 02:07 PM
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81. Yet another subject to change, eNron.
Must dodge eNron questions.</*>
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 02:15 PM
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83. Zimmerman agrees with all the comments here on DU.
So we don't have tinfoil hats. Everyone else is agreeing with us on TV...including all the write-ins.

One person emailed that Bush can't win.If they report...they scare...if they don't report...they're negligent. OK! But isn't it a COINCIDENCE THAT EVERY ALERT comes when Bush is falling in the polls or Kerry is having Good news? Answer me that?


Notice how well it worked! Terror all Day! Nothing about Kerry/Edward! The media sucks! I think we need a smiley sucking on a lolly pop. Would frequently come in handy.

Bush is a pure bred DOG. Let's call them Neocons. Then we can pass a law that says Neocons are very dangerous and should be outlawed, exterminated, euthanized!
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 02:22 PM
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85. Perhaps trying to promote Ridge
so that he can replace cheney on the ticket. Ridge has been mentioned in connection with the Veep spot.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 02:31 PM
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87. Ridge was my governor....
.. and is the only Repub. dumber than Bush.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:13 PM
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106. LOL! That's saying something!


BTW: A hearty welcome to DU, pacoyogi! Where ya been?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 02:29 PM
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86. Trying to set things up to steal another election
Get the duct tape and plastic ready:



and stick your head up your ass:


The elections are about to be stolen again from us

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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 02:39 PM
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88. Not too many people believe anymore
CNN asked everyone to email them and I did saying I thought unless they can show REAL proof they should keep their mouths shut.

When it came time to read the emails, he didn't read mine but read about 5 who believed like I did and only 1 who said we should hear all about things that could happen. The guy on CNN said almost every email was people who don't believe in the warnings anymore and that should say something to HomeLand Security.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 02:56 PM
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89. Seems it's all just so well coordinated and choreographed. Did you
catch this from the Daily Mislead

http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/Read.asp?fn=df07082004.html

Bush Coordinating War on Terror With Election


In the months after the tragic attacks of 9/11, President Bush told the American people that he had "no ambition whatsoever to use as a political issue."1 But according to a new report, the Bush Administration is now demanding that international allies coordinate the arrest of al Qaeda terrorists to coincide with key U.S. political events, so as to maximize political benefits for the President.

According to the New Republic, top Pakistani intelligence officials have confirmed that the Bush Administration is demanding the Pakistani government find as many "high value" terrorist targets specifically before Americans go to the polls in November. By contrast, no similar urgent push or "timetable" was discussed in 2002 or 2003. Even more troubling, Pakistani sources admit White House aides told the Pakistani Director of Intelligence that "it would be best if the arrest or killing of were announced on twenty-six, twenty-seven, or twenty-eight July" - the first three days of the Democratic National Convention in Boston.2

The report calls into question whether key military decisions were affected by similar political motivations during the last three years...
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 03:07 PM
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91. So in other words
they didn't know shit before and they don't know shit now.

Bu$h & CO continue to prove that they are miserable failures. Despite the fact, that they have spent billions of dollars, invade two foreign countries, killed and maimed 1000's of people, they still can't protect America.

Throw the bums out now! It's time for them to go!

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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 03:55 PM
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92. If Bush attacks CA or NY (liberal states) are we going to fall for it?
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 08:41 PM
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102. Hmmmm...........Great question!
Why would a terraist attack the the
"librals"????

It's the repugs they want 24/7!!!
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tlewis Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 03:58 PM
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93. A Vote for Kerry is a Vote for the Terrorists (?!?)

"Senior administration officials and counterterrorism experts view the coming months as a time to increase vigilance out of concern that Islamic militants may try to replicate the political success they had in Spain with coordinated pre-election train bombings."


This is such a crock of shit! They're still pushing the implication that "a vote for Kerry is a vote for the terrorists!"

Terrorists attack Spain before the election.

The Spanish vote the conservative government out of office.

Therefore, the terrorists are credited with a "political success"

By implication,

Terrorists attack the U.S. before the election.

Americans vote Bush out of office, the terrorists have a "political success."

Americans keep Bush in office, then the terrorists must have had a "political failure."

Vote for Kerry = Terrorists succeed.

Gotta love the logic.


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gort Donating Member (567 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 08:30 PM
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98. The Repubs are trying to scare away Voters
Republicans know that the lower the turnout, the better they do. This is why Bush 41 was so against the Motor Voter Act.

I believe the GOP is using the fear factor to scare away as many voters from the polls as possible. Then of course that gives the people who vote absentee the edge in deciding the turnout. I am pretty sure that most absentee voters skew towards the republican side.

Are we cynical enough, yet?
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 08:32 PM
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99. When are these thugs gonna be arrested for their crimes???
They are seriously threatenning to attack us!!!!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 09:40 PM
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103. Awk! Mayfield-Yee gang threatens America! Awk! eom
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:10 PM
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105. "Wolf!"
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:24 PM
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107. He must be going on vacation
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:34 PM
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108. No More Fear!
I promised myself, as I sat in the dark, watching "Fahrenheit 9/11" (and listened to Michael Moore list the ridiculous ways in which the Bush Admin. strives to keep us afraid of 'terra' -- eeeeek!) that I would not listen to this terra-alert crap anymore. I refuse to let them make me afraid. I refuse to let the most worthless public servant on earth -- Tom Ridge -- scare me with his duct tape and his Crayola Box of Terror.

Dick can play with himself in the bunker if he wants. I'm going about my business.

And part of my business is to get ready to take to the streets if the BFEE tries to cancel the election because of terra.

But ... as other DU-ers have pointed out, perhaps we need to be afraid of what Bush & Co. will do to hang onto power. Now THAT's a level-red alert.

CONDITION TAUPE!
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jeffgad Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:14 AM
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111. "Start a war, keep them scared, stifle dissent."
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