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floda Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:06 PM
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Israeli interrogators in Iraq - An exclusive report
At least one aspect of the occupation of Iraq was well planned by Washington. The USA needed help conducting mass interrogations of Arabic-speaking detainees. Foreign Report can now reveal that, to make up for this shortfall, the USA employed Israeli security service (Shin Bet) experts to help their US counterparts 'break' their captives.

The USA could have approached other friendly regimes in the Middle East, such as Egypt or Jordan, which have vast experience interrogating Muslim fundamentalists. The Israelis may be brilliant linguists, but they cannot match Arabs speaking their own language. But there is a significant difference between the Egyptian and Jordanian interrogation techniques and those of the Israelis. For the Egyptian and Jordanian secret services, physical torture is an essential part of interrogation and a key element in breaking the prisoner's will and making them co-operative.

In the past, Shin Bet would use torture when it interrogated prisoners. But 20 years ago, an Israeli government committee investigated the security service's practices and the use of torture was subsequently banned, forcing Shin Bet to adopt a variety of techniques that did not cause physical damage. These new methods are much more palatable to US sensibilities. They also brought faster and more convincing results.

Foreign Report has learnt that top Shin Bet interrogation experts were sent to Iraq to help with the most difficult interrogations, such as the captured heads of the Iraqi intelligence - and perhaps with former president Saddam Hussein. US sources say that in spite of the incidences of abuse in Abu Ghraib prison, such events are not representative of the sophisticated methods that Shin Bet used in Iraq.


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http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr040707_1_n.shtml
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:09 PM
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1. And by "breaking captives" we mean, er... nudging them... with FREEDOM!
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shadu Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:11 PM
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2. Yes. Anyway, we are practicing 'compassionate' torture.
Not mean torture like Saddam used. Surely that makes it alright.
(Go USA!)
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:39 PM
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6. nobody expects the Israeli Inquistion...
Ximinez: Right! If that's the way you want it -- Cardinal! Poke her with the soft cushions!

(Biggles carries out this rather pathetic torture)

Ximinez: Confess! Confess! Confess!
Biggles: It doesn't seem to be hurting her, lord.
Ximinez: Have you got all the stuffing up one end?
Biggles: Yes, lord.
Ximinez (angrily hurling away the cushions): Hm! She is made of harder stuff! Cardinal Fang! Fetch...THE COMFY CHAIR!

(JARRING CHORD)
(Zoom into Fang's horrified face)

Fang (terrified): The...Comfy Chair?

(Biggles pushes in a comfy chair -- a really plush one)

Ximinez: So you think you are strong because you can survive the soft cushions. Well, we shall see. Biggles! Put her in the Comfy Chair!

Ximinez (with a cruel leer): Now -- you will stay in the Comfy Chair until lunch time, with only a cup of coffee at eleven.
(aside, to Biggles) Is that really all it is?
Biggles: Yes, lord.
Ximinez: I see. I suppose we make it worse by shouting a lot, do we? Confess, woman. Confess! Confess! Confess! Confess!

Biggles: I confess!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:15 PM
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3. That's what it was!
Those soldiers weren't piling up naked prisoners, attaching wires to their penises, forcing them to masturbate, collaring them like dogs, or assaulting their women and children. They were simply giving them a...

FREEDOM NUDGE®
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:17 PM
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4. May God Continue to Bless the Homeland
Edited on Thu Jul-08-04 01:18 PM by thebigidea
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:43 PM
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7. Breaking Captives with "Anal Rape"
NOW we know the identity of the "Contractor" who was laying the wood to the 15 year old BOYS at Abu Ghraib.. As in bend over here it comes.

FILTHY AND DISGUSTING -- And according to Taguba--- Lynndie England and her friends filmed the whole spectacle.
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 02:26 PM
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8. howdy, Saigon68
long-X-no-read. how's stuff? :hi:


i know macv/sog pulled this kind of filth to a limited degree; these monsters know no restraint. this was meant to reassure (con) us, but i don't for a tick believe shin bet abandoned torture because they were chastised. in fact, i'm sure the scolding was accompanied by a wink.

i'd hoped we left this kind of war behind us, that we learned some goddam thing from viet nam.


feel dishonored all over again.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 08:02 AM
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10. Sad but true, I also feel dishonored
I was asked to tone it down for a while.

I guess as the election gets more heated or when the next military outrage appears, Simon Jester, Adam Selene and I will be back.

LOL
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 01:26 PM
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5. The head bags were a dead give-away
of Shin Bet techniques. (To anyone familiar with human rights reports) Also the sexual humiliation and knowledge of cultural taboos, etc. etc. was not dreamed up by former Walmart employees from Des Moines doing guard duty (althought the brutality was probably homegrown). Shin Bet has been torturing Palestinian teenagers for over 30 years, now they are exporting their expertise.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 03:43 PM
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9. In JANE'S!!!!!!!! Faboulous.
Could hardly be a more credible source. Great find.
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