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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:43 AM
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Live on NPR 7:41pst 10:41est Senate Committee on Pre-Iraq Intel RIPS CIA!
"Groupthink led to enormous intel errors..."
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:45 AM
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1. Senate Intelligence Committee report slams CIA
Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 09:49 AM by cal04
Shocker, when is the CIA going to tell us the real truth
Once again they get away with lying

Senate Intelligence Committee report slams CIA for failures in the run-up to the Iraq war.
The Senate Intelligence Committee Friday severely criticized U.S. spy agencies for overstating the threat of Iraqi weapons and ignoring contrary evidence, a source familiar with the report said.

The report also said U.S. intelligence ignored doubts about Iraqi mobile bioweapons labs -- one of the key elements cited by the Bush administration in making its case for the war against Iraq (news - web sites), the source said.

But the report absolved the administration of charges it pressured analysts to fit its own war policy.

The committee did not find any evidence that administration officials attempted to coerce, influence or pressure analysts to change their judgments related to Iraq's weapons of mass destruction capabilities," it said.

It specifically cleared Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites), a leading advocate of the war, of charges that he tried to bend the evidence to fit his agenda.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20040709/ts_nm/iraq_intelligence_dc
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:46 AM
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2. First statement over, now Rockefeller about to speak. n/t
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:52 AM
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3. live on CNN now
if you haven't sworn off cable tv news and aren't cubicle bound!
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:54 AM
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4. Several people have stated that Cheney was VERY involved
Who is telling the truth?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 09:59 AM
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5. But but but
Fuck Saddam, we're taking him out. Oh, forget I said that.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:08 AM
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6. Rockefeller unhappy that WH's "misuse of intel" isn't in the report
so he declares it verbally. Right on.
Now he's detailing it more.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:31 AM
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10. Senator Carl Levin outlined it yesterday on c-span before
a press conference. It was damning to junior & cheney.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:22 AM
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7. Well, this is a shock, eh?
:puke:
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 10:25 AM
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8. Reporter: "Why can't you issue a report before the election on misuse of
intel?"

Sen. Roberts waffles with 'we'll get to it eventually' bullshit.

Sen. Rockefeller rips him. Sez 'there is no reason to claim that only 20 legislative days is a hindrence. How about not leaving DC until we determince this info that is crucial to US security?'

This fucking Republican congress cares not a whit whether we live or die.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:19 AM
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9. When it come down to it their all in it together
Our whole government is Cheneyed up

Swing States



Blonde Editorial: Why are the Republicans trying to win swing states? It appears to be way off their agenda especially since they are so hell bent on preserving marriage. I imagine that swingers don't exemplify the moral values that Republicans would like us to live up to, in fact it seems a bit kinky to me. I am surprised that Mr Bush would even tempt his Christian soul by even campaigning in a swing state. I can understand that Mr Kerry would campaign there being that he is a hell bound Catholic, but why even bother campaigning in a swing state? Swingers seem to be quite liberal and are most likely to vote Democrat anyway. So what is all the hoopla about anyway?

UPDATE: This blonde is so embarrassed. I got a vast amount of email explaining to me that swing states aren't for swingers. Swing states are for people who go both ways. Now that is really kinky.
link | posted by BlondeSense @ 12:48 PM | (0) Comments So Far | Trackback (0)
(snip)
http://blondesense.blogspot.com/2004/06/swing-states.html
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:MLmn34QzH28J:blondesense.blogspot.com/2004_06_01_blondesense_archive.html+Dick+Cheneyed&hl=en
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:34 AM
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11. Rockefeller really let the Admin. have it
I loved what he said.
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:35 PM
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12. This must not stand,
They're using the CIA to cover for bush again. The misadministration outed a CIA agent because they didn't get the backing they wanted for war. They're throwing it on Tenet because he was a Clinton appointee, nothing more. They are lying out of their lying faces when they say the crime cabal didn't pressure the CIA for WMD info that they wanted. The whole bush administration is nothing more than hubris, coercion , and cronyism. Any report from this GOPig controlled congress is toilet paper, as all it is there for, is to reselect bush. They used Asscrack and their packed court to silence Sibel. Now they'll probably appoint a shredder to the CIA. They keep reaping the rewards of 1994 and 2000 over and over again.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:51 PM
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13. Don't forget, Tenet's last official day is this Sunday!
After that, he can say anything. Not being part of the CIA anymore means he can talk! Wonder if he will?
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 01:15 PM
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14. Tenet will join Patrick McGoohan as a captive like 'The Prisoner.'
High threat levels, new CIA director, Congress on vacation, an overt war to maintain, conventions in Boston and New York, a threatened power structure, the public completely polarized and cynical.

We have the ingredients for another perfect storm like 9/11. Hope there's still some duct tape left at the stores. Hmmm, I think I can get plenty of canned goods in my garage.
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 02:34 PM
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15. I sure hope to hell he will,
The CIA is an easy target ,sure, but the stench of cover up for shrubs war mongering over poppy is all pervasive.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 03:00 PM
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16. for what it's worth
ultimately- bush* is/was Tenent's boss and by extension the big cheese of all CIA agents/employees etc.

the decision to invade was NOT made by Tenent, the decision to invade was NOT made by intel analysts, the decision to invade was NOT made by the assistant sanitary engineer -- THE DECISION TO INVADE WAS MADE BY bush*
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 03:37 PM
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17. Some where in the mountains of stories of all this flack
I remember reading about Secret Dick getting an assessment by the CIA recommending not to invade and there being no credible WMD (very early). During that time the NeoCons (already knowing this years before) where setting up the the basement office at the Pentagon for propaganda for the rest of the world (including and mostly for people in the US government) It was nothing more than a propaganda front


The spies who pushed for war

Julian Borger reports on the shadow rightwing intelligence network set up in Washington to second-guess the CIA and deliver a justification for toppling Saddam Hussein by force

Thursday July 17, 2003
The Guardian
(snip)
The OSP was an open and largely unfiltered conduit to the White House not only for the Iraqi opposition. It also forged close ties to a parallel, ad hoc intelligence operation inside Ariel Sharon's office in Israel specifically to bypass Mossad and provide the Bush administration with more alarmist reports on Saddam's Iraq than Mossad was prepared to authorise.

"None of the Israelis who came were cleared into the Pentagon through normal channels," said one source familiar with the visits. Instead, they were waved in on Mr Feith's authority without having to fill in the usual forms.

The exchange of information continued a long-standing relationship Mr Feith and other Washington neo-conservatives had with Israel's Likud party.

In 1996, he and Richard Perle - now an influential Pentagon figure - served as advisers to the then Likud leader, Binyamin Netanyahu. In a policy paper they wrote, entitled A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, the two advisers said that Saddam would have to be destroyed, and Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Iran would have to be overthrown or destabilised, for Israel to be truly safe.
(snip)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,999737,00.html
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