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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:15 AM
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Nevada Loses Yucca Mt. Waste Site Appeal
By H. JOSEF HEBERT, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - A federal appeals court on Friday rejected Nevada's arguments against a building a nuclear waste site in the state, but ordered the government to develop a plan to protect the public against radiation releases beyond the proposed 10,000 years.



The three-judge panel dismissed claims by Nevada that the Bush administration's plan to build the Yucca Mountain waste site was unconstitutional and said that actions by the Energy Department and President Bush (news - web sites) leading up to approval of the waste site were not subject to review by the court.


In a victory for Nevada, however, the court rejected the government standard that the public would have to be protected from radiation leaks only for 10,000 years. It said the compliance period for the radiation standards would have to be developed well beyond that period.


The 100-page decision by the three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia was a major blow to Nevada's attempt to block construction of the repository planned for 90 miles northwest of Las Vegas.


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more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=716&e=5&u=/ap/20040709/ap_on_re_us/yucca_mountain
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mstrsplinter326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:18 AM
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1. There needs to be a massive uprising when they start shipping
That toxic shit across our back yards. That makes me livid.

Yeah, Asscroft I said uprising, come get me.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:23 AM
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2. Where are you supposed to put the nuclear waste?
Personally I would wish that they would reprocess the waste and use the recycled parts over again. However, that would still leave some waste.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:25 AM
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3. Crawford TX
;)
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oly Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:50 PM
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12. Great Bumper Sticker for NV...
Move the Crap to Crawford -- Waste and Bush or

Crap to Crawford or

Nuke Crap to Crawford or

OK, you get the idea. I need a little help here.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:29 AM
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5. There is a lot of waste that you can't recycle
What would be ideal is to package the waste into a rocket and shoot it into the sun, but until that is an absolutely foolproof process, it shouldn't be done.

Better option is to shut down our nuclear plants altogether, and get serious about renewable energy sources.
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mstrsplinter326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:39 AM
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6. They shouldn't have made it, but...
Since that's not going to help, I say we dump it in the back yards of the people who funded/founded/pushed for these plants, or at least strap them with the costs of the ordeal.

Not to mention the site in Nevada is one of the most unsafe spots considered for the dump. It is prone to earth quakes and the site itself, being underground is especially at risk. They are going into this knowing that the site will not contain the waste forever and the waste will eventually end up in the bare earth.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:06 PM
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7. Reprocessing greatly increases the volume of nuclear waste
Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 12:36 PM by jpak
To remove the uranium and plutonium, spent fuel is mechanically crushed (generating cladding hull waste and releasing radioactive gases) and the fuel pellets dissolved in nitric acid.

The plutonium and uranium is separated from the nitric acid solution with an organic solvent.

The Pu and U are then chemically extracted from the organic solvent and purified.

The highly radioactive fission products remain in the nitric acid solution.

On edit: other long-lived transuranic wastes remain in the organic solvent...

The only commercial US reprocessing plant to operate in the US processed 640 metric tons of spent fuel and generated 600,000 gallons of high level liquid waste.

This venture was a commercial failure.

The DOE (read taxpayers) will spend ~$8 billion to clean up this mess.

The current US spent fuel inventory is ~43,000 metric tons.

What will be the volume of waste generated if all this is reprocessed???

A shitload.

Who will pay for all this??? The nuclear power industry???

Nope.

The Taxpayers...

Aside from the obvious proliferation concerns, reprocessing is a nasty dirty business and downright uneconomical.

Reprocess spent fuel????

Fuck that.







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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 02:10 PM
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13. That's someone else's problem. Keep YOUR garbage out of MY backyard!
NEVADA didn't produce this stuff.

If the SOB's who got free electricity from this mess produced it, THEY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DESPOSING OF IT IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES!

Simple logical idea.

KEEP YOUR SHIT OUT OF MY STATE!

(Not you personally, unless your one of those from a waste-producing state that sees no problem in piling it off on us - then I have more choice words for people like that!).
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:26 AM
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4. For those of you living in Las Vegas and other areas nearby
Move somewhere else, NOW! While you can still get a decent price for your house, before they start shipping to Yucca Mountain. Yes, yes, I know lots of you have well paying jobs there, but is that money worth your life, or the life of your children? If you are hesitant to move because you have family in the area, move your family.

Tests have already been done that show high contamination of ground water is not only possible, but likely. All that is going to be protecting you is the containers this waste is stored in. Granted, some of these containers are well built, but some of them are nothing more than steel drums.

One of the little known reasons this waste is being centralized is because right now the water shielding this waste is currently contaminating the water supply around the country wherever this waste is stored. Therefore they are simply moving all of these small contaminations source to your backyard.

Within the next twenty years, Las Vegas could very well be uninhabitable. Get out now while the getting is good.
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oly Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:27 PM
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8. The truely amazing thing about this that many many NV Repugs
actually think that the Repug party in NV and nationally is on the "stop Yucca" side of the issue. Masterful playing of these folks by Ensign/Porter/Gibbons/local repugs. As a result NV Repugs see little connection between Big Energy and the Repug party. Mind boggling.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:33 PM
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9. If only Nevada residents realized this back in 2000
I knew that it was obvious that Bush was lying to Nevada residents before the 2000 election about Yucca Mt. Florida wouldn't have even been an issue if Nevada went for Gore.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:34 PM
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10. DAMN! DAMN! DAMN!
Wait 'til the earth shakes under Yucca Mountain, not to mention the fact that the site won't be ready for at least another 8-10 years, so any waste shipped before then will have to be stored above ground.
DAMN! :mad:

Shake Map
http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Maps/115-37.htm

FAULTING IN THE YUCCA MOUNTAIN AREA
http://wrgis.wr.usgs.gov/docs/gump/ymp/centralblock/cb.html
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:35 PM
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11. So is Nevada in play?
nt
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 02:16 PM
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14. It is - and this was a major issue - until Edwards was selected.
He's one of those NIMBY idiots who see's no problem with sending HIS garbage to someone else to deal with.

Maybe Kerry can GENUINELY educated him on this and honestly change is mind on this.

One can only hope.

I will hold my nose and vote for this ticket anyway - what else have we got? A real idiot who relishes the ability to have screwed us, or someone who has to defer to his "boss" (Kerry) and won't have a major impact on any decisions?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 06:18 PM
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15. Public Citizen Press Release
www.citizen.org

Public Citizen Press Releases
Providing the latest information about Public Citizen activities
-------------------------------------------

Public Citizen released the following July 9, 2004:

Victory in Yucca Mountain Lawsuit; Court Overrules Government's Lax
Radiation Standards for Nuclear Waste

Statement of Public Citizen President Joan Claybrook

Today's ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit that
the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) illegally set its
radiation release standards for groundwater for the proposed high-level
radioactive waste dump at Yucca Mountain, Nevada, marks a major victory
for citizens of Nevada, for the environment and for science over
politics.

The EPA set 10,000 years as the period during which radiation in the
groundwater cannot exceed drinking water standards at the site's
boundary, but this time frame would not protect the health of future
generations. As the court ruled, the Energy Policy Act requires that the
EPA determine public health and safety standards for Yucca Mountain
"based upon and consistent with" the National Academy of Sciences'
recommendations. The Academy's recommendation is that the compliance
period should extend through the time of the peak risk for radiation
doses from the repository, which studies show are likely to occur in
300,000 years or more. To compensate for Yucca's geologic unsuitability,
the EPA ignored the findings of the National Academy of Sciences.

"It would have been one thing had EPA taken the Academy's
recommendations into account and then tailored a standard that
accommodated the agency's policy concerns. But that is not what EPA
did," the Court wrote in its ruling. "Instead, it unabashedly rejected
NAS's findings, and then went on to promulgate a dramatically different
standard, one that the Academy had expressly rejected."

Given this ruling, the Yucca Mountain Project should be finished. The
U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) must show that it can prevent
groundwater contamination above drinking water standards at the
compliance boundary for 300,000 years - a standard that the DOE's own
analysis shows the Yucca Mountain site cannot meet. The EPA faces the
choice of either appealing the decision or revising its standard. The
rules have been bent too often to promote Yucca Mountain. We will be
watching closely to see if the EPA makes a wise choice and protects
future generations, as the court mandated.

To read the court's decision, go to
http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/docs/common/opinions/200407/01-1258a.pdf.


###################################################

Six Months Later and Consumers Still at Risk

Statement by Wenonah Hauter, Director of Public Citizen's Food
Program

Today's announcement by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)
that it is again delaying the proposed rules regarding bovine spongiform
encephalopathy (BSE) is an extreme disappointment.

The agency has broken the promise it made to American consumers on Jan.
26, when it announced that it was going to take immediate action to
strengthen the firewalls against BSE. At the time, Health and Human
Services Secretary Tommy Thompson stated: "Small as the risk may
already be, this is the time to make sure the public is protected to the
greatest extent possible."

It is nearly six months later, and the gaping holes in the animal feed
ban still exist - with no specific date when those holes would actually
be closed. It is obvious that the Bush administration has, once again,
kowtowed to industry interests. We call on the administration to
immediately issue an interim final rule that would close these holes.

We must ensure strong and vigilant surveillance of our meat safety
system in order to protect consumers. The FDA must work harder to
protect the health and safety of the public.

Please visit our website at www.citizen.org
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Zech Marquis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 06:47 PM
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16. chalk up Nevada for Kerry-Edwards!
Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 06:48 PM by Zech Marquis
Just like he's so prone to do with everything, * has screwed the good people of Nevada, and there's no way he's going to win there in November.

Why don't they bury that radioactiv shit in Crashcart's secret hideout or something? :evilgrin:
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