Kerry Overtakes Bush In Florida

[Reciprocity]

Good new y'all. This was taken before Edwards was added to the ticket.

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CPOD) Jul. 11, 2004 – Massachusetts senator John Kerry holds the advantage in the key battleground state of Florida, according to a poll by Rasmussen Reports. 48 per cent of respondents would vote for the prospective Democratic nominee, while 43 per cent would support Republican incumbent George W. Bush.
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Source: Rasmussen Reports
Methodology: Interviews to likely Florida voters taken from a national sample of 15,000 respondents, conducted from Jun. 1 to Jun. 30, 2004. Margin of error is 4 per cent.
For more..
http://www.cpod.ubc.ca/polls/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewItem&itemID=3363

[UpInArms]

1. glad to see Florida is waking up

:thumbsup:

[opihimoimoi]

3. I think they got the guilts from the Cruella bitch who helped steal the

election in 2000.

I think we gonna see a surge of Dem Voters who will do it right this time...

For the Lack of a CHAD, this Nation was HAD.......

[bif]

10. Yeh, could you please take the time to vote correctly this time?

Ya dubmshits!

[puerco-bellies]

14. They were not dumb

They got cheney'd, before, during and after the vote.

[coeur_de_lion]

27. speak for yourself! No dumbshits here!

[opihimoimoi]

4. I think they got the guilts from the Cruella bitch who helped steal the

election in 2000.

I think we gonna see a surge of Dem Voters who will do it right this time...

For the Lack of a CHAD, this Nation was HAD.......

[axollot]

5. Hell Ive been in Florida for 5 years

and I have been awake the entire time! I got here a little late to vote "i guess" because I didn't get my voter's registration card till after the 2000 election.

Boy was I pissed off! I was living in Australia all my adult life, come back to the states - end up in Jacksonville FL (which is still the freaking deep south) total culture shock and then end up getting this knucklehead as a pResident *sigh*

Needless to say I have not liked being back "home" in the States the entire time I have been here. No doubts who I will be voting for!

[UpInArms]

6. Welcome to DU axollot!

glad to have you here :hi:

I'm also pleased that you're in Florida and can make a few waves :D

[Reciprocity]

7. Don't make waves and you won't drown. You won't reach land either...n/t

[juajen]

16. A big WELCOME to DU

I love Australia. Live long and prosper!

[gmoney]

2. Sweet!

Hopefully someone will keep Jeb in line from stuffing the ballot boxes.

[MGKrebs]

8. Let's see... 9 million registered voters in Florida.

48% = 4.32 million.
43% = 3.87 million

difference = 450,000. it would be hard for them to steal THAT many votes.

Let's split the difference on the margin of error and make it 46 to 45 %.

46% = 4.14 million
45% = 4.05 million.

difference = 90,000. Still a lot of votes to steal, especially with all the scrutiny, but a couple more percent would be nice. Presumably, we just found a couple of thousand more votes they tried to steal by allowing Hispanic felons to vote.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x677789

[jab105]

12. But 9 million people dont vote...6 million in 2000 and that was high...

n/t

[AndyTiedye]

15. It Would be Dead Easy For them To Steal Half A Million Votes

Almost half the population of Florida is voting on touch-screens,
including ALL of the largest cities.

If those machines are in place on Election Day, no amount of
poll-watching can stop the BFEE from stealing as many votes as they
need in Florida.

Kerry's Florida organization should devote its efforts to getting
rid of the paperless voting machinez in Florida, if there is any conceivable legal basis left on which to challenge them.

[BlueScreen]

9. This is good news! But...

...we have to make sure that Jeb doesn't get away with any funny business with the voting register. The last attempt ended in failure, but not due to pressure from the Democratic party, but because the resulting list so blatantly exempted Hispanics (who are expected to vote more to the Right in Florida this year) that the Republicans had to withdraw it lest their motives appear too obvious.

I don't think we've seen the last underhanded trick from the Florida Governor's office and its cronies throughout the state adminstration. I've been following this as much as possible through sites like www.blackboxvoting.org.

This is still encouraging news, though!

Cheers,
Sagar

[Reciprocity]

11. Welcome to DU BlueScreen.

It’s still early. But this is good news.

[puerco-bellies]

13. Welcome BlueScreen

Funny name, what windows os pisses you off the most?

[BlueScreen]

21. Heh... Actually comes from a special-effects technique

...in which actors are filmed against a blue background so they can later be pasted into different scenes. I am a film composer, and my nickname growing up happened to be "Blue", hence...

Glad to be here!

Sagar

[juajen]

17. WELCOME to DU, too

We have serious discussions here, and a seriously good time. Hope you stay for a while.

[underpants]

18. Welcome Blue-Link to thread on Fla. NOT using flawed felons list

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x677789

[charlyvi]

26. I thought many Hispanics...

Cubans, I mean, were pissed off because of bush*bunch more stringent rules on visiting Cuba. I read that they were pissed off that they could not visit their families as much as usual. How about it?

[greymattermom]

19. Kerry in Florida

They should send Cameron Kerry to campaign in Palm Beach County.

[The Animator]

20. As a native Floridian...

I can assure you I will be voting for Kerry.

The polls might have overlooked something also. There are a large number of Army Reserves in Iraq right now, many of them are from Florida, and they have been stuck there for a long time.

Reserves are only supposed to be deployed for a maximum of six months. My cousins wife was in a unit that was activated in March of 2003, she managed to come home, but as far as I know the rest of her unit is still over there. After having been continually screwed over by the Defense Department, I doubt their absentee ballots will favor the Bush Administration.

As Reservists, when they got the call, they had the opportunity to say that they could not go. However, many of them only accepted because they bought into the "They Gots Weaponz of Mast Destrukshon!" propaganda. I'm certain by now the truth has spread throughout the ranks, despite any efforts to keep the truth from them. There are a lot of really pissed off people over there, and pissed off people vote.

There are also many pissed off people here in Florida as well. There are people here who didn't vote in the last election because they didn't think that it mattered. Now they have seen what really shitty leadership can do to our country, and they realize that had enough like minded people voted in 2000, this whole mess could have been avoided.

"Yeah! Gawd Bliss Amur'ca!"

[sofa king]

31. The dance of the dead.

Animator, and everyone else, please don't confuse this observation with some sort of vindictive crowing. I certainly wouldn't wish to create the wrong impression.

One way to look at the decision in 2000 is to simply count the number of un-postmarked (and illegal under state law) ballots which were counted. Some 1,400 military absentee ballots were contested. Some 600 were then magically made valid when Judge Lacey Collier invoked the Supremacy Clause. We eventually learned that the Bush lawyers did not ask to have military overseas ballots from Gore-leaning counties counted. But the decision stuck in federal court and now it's a judiciary precendent.

The state of Florida also re-wrote their election laws to align with Federal law. And since the trick worked so well, the Republican-controlled Florida legislature also added this to the statutes:

"101.6952 (2) For absentee ballots received from overseas voters, there is a presumption that the envelope was mailed on the date stated and witnessed on the outside of the return envelope, regardless of the absence of a postmark on the mailed envelope or the existence of a postmark date that is later than the date of the election."

A year or so back on another message board, I pissed off a lot of people by pointing out that there's a chance that one or more people cashed in their own chips by submitting those late ballots, because those votes helped get Bush elected and then Bush recklessly sent those voters into harm's way. Thirty-nine Floridians have died in Iraq alone.

But here's the bottom line. The military in general is not nearly so enamored with George Bush today as they were in 2000. A larger volume of overseas military ballots are going to be returned to Florida in 2004 thanks to the near-total overseas deployment of our armed forces. This time, state law says that ballots illegally sent after election day are presumed to be legal, and that law is now backed by federal judical precedent. If the election is close, Bush's weasels will have to argue against the very precedents they created in 2000.

And macabrely enough, there's a small chance that some of the people willing to turn in fraudulent ballots for Bush in 2000 are now dead. This year, Floridians in the armed forces this year will know up front that their votes could save their very lives. And Florida law now protects their votes so well that they don't even need to send them in unless they're important.

[Crazy8s]

22. Lots of Pro Kerry folks in my neck of the FL woods

I live in Brooksville, about an hour north of Tampa, and I work in Bushnell. Quite a few of my co-workers are ready to vote Bush out (tho the Administrator is sickeningly pro Bush), and just today at a flea market in Tampa, we saw a lady in an electric wheelchair with an 'Idiots For Bush--Because Only a Moron Would Do So' sticker on it. Alot of Floridians are sick and tired of Bushco and never wanted him in power in the first place!

[Native]

23. Born & raised in Florida,

spent 10 years in DC, and have been back in the Tampa Bay area for the last 15 years. This news just warms my heart! As an aside - I've recently been running into a great many Republicans in our area who are proclaiming their disgust with Bush & vowing to vote for Kerry. I think it is interesting to note that they've only gone vocal since the Moore movie hit town.

[Placebo]

24. I'm optimistic :)

But I still get chils of worry whenever I hear a republican say anything like "Bush WILL win ______" or "We are verrrry confident that the democrats don't stand a chance in _______"

Those statements make me wonder. I still am predicting election day problems yet again, and we can see from evidence already presented this far ahead of polling that the vast majority of problems that faced florida in 2000 are still here. (disqualifying eligible, disproportionately democratic/minority voters, etc...)

[Native]

28. At least the felon list won't be problem this time around!

[Malva Zebrina]

25. good--now let's see that the mailed in military votes are counted

according to the law also. No more Katherine Harrises bullying us around. It seems to be in the meme of the Florida government to fix elections and that is their burden they will carry, not that Jeb would care at all. Not this time Jeb. You will NOT fix it so your stupid brother will win an election . This time it will be so overwhelmingly for Kerry that YOU will not be able to fix it so your murdereing, war president brother can coup his own people again

[struggle4progress]

29. Kerry, Bush Woo Hispanic Voters with New Ads

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Bush made inroads into the Hispanic vote in 2000, winning 35 percent while Democrat Al Gore took 62 percent. A Gallup poll completed June 30 shows Kerry leading Bush 57 to 38 percent among Hispanics.

The diverse Hispanic electorate includes a heavily Republican Cuban bloc, as well as more Democratic-leaning Mexican Americans, Puerto Ricans and Central Americans.

To win in November, Kerry's share of the Hispanic vote cannot drop below 60 percent, said Maria Cardona, senior vice president of the New Democrat Network, which is running its own Hispanic media program to help Democratic candidates.
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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=5648839

[dusty64]

30. Yeah but what does

jebbie say, his is the ONLY vote that counts.