Lynne, Dick Cheney Differ on Gay Marriage

[True_Blue]

WASHINGTON - Lynne Cheney, the vice president's wife and mother of a lesbian, said Sunday that states should have the final say over the legal status of personal relationships.


That stand puts her at odds with the vice president on the need for the constitutional amendment now under debate in the Senate that effectively would ban gay marriage.


"I think that the constitutional amendment discussion will give us an opportunity to look for ways to discuss ways in which we can keep the authority of the states intact," Cheney told CNN's "Late Edition."


The Senate began debate Friday on an amendment that defines marriage as a union of a man and woman as husband and wife.

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[Kipepeo]

1. This was Dick Cheney's position too

until recently I guess (recently meaning when Bush decided to run on the FMA).

In 2000 Cheney said, "That matter is regulated by the states. I think different states are likely to come to different conclusions, and that's appropriate. I don't think there should necessarily be a federal policy in this area."


the Log Cabin Republicans have some ads with him saying this.

[Placebo]

2. Ugh...

For the first time in the history of our nation we are about to let these mandate-less, dishonourable political hacks get their petty dirty greedy neocon RW paws on the people's most sacred document to write discrimination INTO IT!

It's a testament to this crowd's pure political tunnel vision really, they have no sense of history or respect for our nation's institutions.

I heard the primate in chief this weekend in his radio address say that marriage is the fundamental building block of our society, and it must be preserved. What sort of bubble is this man living in? If the rise or fall of our republic was based solely on the preservation of the "conventional" heterosexual marriage, it would have collapsed long ago. Divorce, infidelity, sexual abuse, the list goes on! And now the vast majority of hetero marriages are ending in divorce as well.

Not to mention there's evidence that shrub has cheated on his wife. What's a greater threat to marriage, a man and man or woman and woman uniting in a loving lifetime bond, or, a drunk abusive failed businessman husband that dubya was? Or his brother and all his scandalous problems that have never made it into the mainstream news in any great regard. (Asian hookers anyone? "they just showed up!") i rest my case.

[Ediacara]

3. Good points!

and welcome to DU! :hi:

[RichV]

4. Well, one thing I'd keep in mind

This amendment doesn't have a chance to pass. They may not even get a majority. Won't even be close.

[gratuitous]

8. That's it exactly

I heard an excerpt from Stupidhead's weekly radio address this morning on the local news. He was babbling some nonsense about how the issue of gay marriage has been "forced" on the nation because of activist local politicians and judges.

Apparently Stupidhead has forgotten (or hoped that we had forgotten) that the whole issue started because the Reactionary Right thought it had an easy win with the issue of gay marriage. What they actually did was arouse a somnambulent population of gays and their supporters who wanted little more than to be left alone. When they started meddling in people's lives, they found out that their easy picking of some low-hanging fruit (no pun intended) turned out to be so much sour grapes.

My own Senator Gordon Smith has come out in favor of the constitutional amendment. At least one of his constituents will let him know that he's making a mistake.

[buycitgo]

13. no; what they wanted is to force dems

to vote against it, then have their vote as a nail to hammer upon in subsequent campaigns

two prime examples of that tactic, aren't there?

don't they both happen to be running in a somewhat high profile campaign this year?

[gratuitous]

15. They're certainly using the issue to partisan advantage -- now

But the issue originally came up because the Reactionary Right thought it could hammer a powerless minority with few friends, and score political points pandering to their base. They miscalculated.

[True_Blue]

5. Welcome to DU!

I've yet to hear them give a concrete and precise example of how gay marriages will impact heterosexual marriages.

Bush doesn't really care about gay marriages, he just wants everyone, especially his Christian Base, to think about gay marriage instead of the eight hundred plus American men and women who gave their lives for this poorly thought-out, pre-emptive, illegal war in Iraq.

[Placebo]

7. Hello everyone!

:hi:

I've been browsing the boards for some time, finally decided i HAD to join!

[Kenergy]

9. Welcome Nation!!!!

[Malva Zebrina]

6. Honestly, I do not care what she says. She is nothing

and I do not care what he says. He is a liar without any sense of what it means to have a heart and tell the truth.

I am not interested in this dysfunctional family.

[Geo55]

10. The wisdom of the Founding Fathers

shines again...
It's a tough nut to crack to get where they want to go.
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/teacher_lessons/3branches/15b.htm

the framers of the consitution forsaw this doo doo comin'

[sundog]

11. Sounds like bait with a hook in it...

they're waving in front of some naive fishes

phony as hell... so the masses say "well, they're not so bad" or "maybe they're compassionate after all" -- I don't believe anything that comes out of any mouths from the right.

Their true position was made clear yesterday by the bigot in chief.

[truthisfreedom]

12. crooked people, crooked picture

[2cents]

14. Uh-oh That's It !!

Dicky's gonna get the sock.

[ItsMyParty]

16. Same garbage, different day

Dear heaven---recognize ugly, manipulative politics when you see it. It's the same garbage pulled by Papa Bush. Good Cop-Bad Cop. George railed against abortion (though he was okay with it until he ran for president and they told him it's the way to win the morons of the Christian right) and Barbie said she was for it. They animals always paly the retro card...of it worked before, do it again. So now Dick (people are hating you) Cheney rails against gay marriage to play to the bigotted minions, then Mama Cheney tries to play to the center. And you know what really sucks? Neither one of them could give a rat's ass about whether gay's marry or not. In fact, if they could find a way to make billions off of gay marriages, they would be out promoting gay marriage 24 hours a day!!! These people are soooooo predictable. And such unholy scum.

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17. yup... who cares what the wives think...

they have no real power in this administration.

[FredScuttle]

18. Lynne Fuck is beyond belief

What kind of mother doesn't beat the drums to protect her child? What kind of mother allows her husband to espouse such hatred against their child?

Lynne Fuck is a motherCheneyer.

[rob-ok-vin]

19. Its about getting the Christian Right motivated.

I know here in Okla they are trying to get a vote for a state Constitutional Ammendment on the ballot for Nov. You think they want the Baptist to vote in force? And it is also my Sen Inhofe that is co-sponsoring the senate bill

[struggle4progress]

20. Should Dickie Boy haul Lynne in front of Judge Holmes?

If she's not doing as told, does she need an afternoon in the ducking stool?

[Hobarticus]

21. "Keep the authority of the states intact'?!?

Did she really say that?

I don't see how discussing the constitutional amendment discussion will "keep the authority of the states intact". Think the way to do that is for the fed to drop the issue altogether, and let the states decide.

Lynne, do the right thing.