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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:53 PM
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FBI admits to not warning Australia of Bali bomb threat
FBI admits to Bali warning delay
Source: CANBERRA AAP
Date: 2004-Jul-13 07:37 AM

"A US intelligence agency has admitted it received warning of a possible terrorist threat in Indonesia prior to the Bali bombings, but did not immediately inform Australia.

The FBI told ABC Television's Lateline program it had gleaned the information from interrogated al-Qaeda suspect Mohommad Mansour Jabara in the lead-up to the attacks on October 12, 2002."

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"The FBI told Lateline in a statement that while it had passed the information on to some countries in the region, it had not informed Australia because there was no specific threat against Australia"

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http://news.f2.com.au/article.cgi?id=71845

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## Richard Armitage, George Bush, Dick Cheney and Colin Powell continue to bash the Australian Labor Party about withdrawing troops from Iraq if they win government deeming it's 'all or nothing', in the alliance .

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:05 PM
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1. Did they intentionally fail to warn?
so they could protect Howard's government, just as what will happen here this fall to protect Bush?
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Aunt Anti-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:19 PM
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2. Well, LIHOP seemed 'tin foil hat' to me before, but...
I am starting to see that this government is capable of just that very thing.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 08:37 PM
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3. GET THESE JACKASSES OUT!!!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:46 AM
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13. Well said. Very well said
Captures our feelings of revulsion perfectly.
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AussieInCA Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:10 PM
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4. yep great alliance there...sorry to not put us aussies on the email list
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:14 PM
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5. fine way to treat a "coalition of the willing" partner .........eom
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 09:38 PM
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6. horrible
they're like our best friends and we treat them like crap. I'm ashamed, but not surprised. Sorry, Oz, they fucked us both.
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lefty_mcduff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 10:55 PM
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7. Wonder why?
Could it be that the WH benefited from another LIHOP terrorist attack and the PR towards Bush's war on terrah?

Nah, that wouldn't be right....
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 12:11 AM
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8. Nobody could have imagined
That Australians might be vacationing in South-East Asia (paraphrasing Condi Rice).
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AussieInCA Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:24 AM
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9. Subject: you've got to be kidding me...how ignorant is she???? - nt
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:21 AM
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10. ;) as ignorant as necessary...
for plausible deniability.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 10:19 AM
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16. By way of explanation
I was paraphrasing her phony statement (about 911) that "nobody could have imagined they would fly planes into buildings" (after getting multiple warnings about that very thing). I don't know if she has actually weighed in on the story about not bothering to warn Australia about the Bali bombing.

It must be particularly maddening for Australians to find out their government wasn't warned, since the Australian government actually sent troops to Bush's war.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:38 AM
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11. It would be interesting to know if John Howard had been informed
by the FBI!

Bring the troops home now.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:56 AM
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12. When Ewing was posting here...
he claimed in a post to me that Howard was given a direct briefing by Robert Mueller before 9/11 happened. As I recall, Ewing said that Howard even cancelled some travel plans he had to go to New York - one of Howard's best friends is Frank Lowy, who was one of the WTC owners.

Lowy is reputedly in very tight with Israeli intelligence - so it wouldn't surprise me if Howard gets a lot of info "under the counter".
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 07:50 AM
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14. "Warning" takes away all the "Terror" value.
Then where would THAT get the BFEE?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 08:32 AM
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15. A good time to remember the CIA's role in overthrowing Gough Whitlam's
Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 08:33 AM by Minstrel Boy
Labour government in 1975.

Whitlam was shocked to learn the extent of the CIA's operations in Australia, and how deeply embedded it was in Australian intelligence. He wanted to get to the truth of the top secret Pine Gap installation near Alice Springs. Its lease was coming up for renewal, and the Agency had doubts that Whitlam would extend it.


Gough Whitlam

Pine Gap

People at the highest levels were concerned about what Whitlam might do to the long-standing Australian - U.S. relationship. CIA Director until 1975, William Colby, in his book Honorable Men, ranked the Whitlam government as one of the major crises of his career, comparable to the 1973 Yom Kippur (Arab-Israeli) War, when the U.S. had considered using nuclear weapons to help Israel win the war.

Many others in the intelligence community were concerned, including Ted Shackley, head of the East Asia Division of the CIA, who was said to be paranoid about Whitlam; and James Jesus Angleton, head of the CIA's Counter-Intelligence section, who despised the Labor government.
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/20%20Years%20of%20Cover-Up1.html

To Australian Intelligence, CIA's Shackley cabled:

CIA FEELS THAT EVERYTHING POSSIBLE HAS BEEN DONE ON A DIPLOMATIC BASIS AND NOW ON AN INTELLIGENCE LIAISON LINK THEY FEEL THAT IF THIS PROBLEM CANNOT BE SOLVED THEY DO NOT SEE HOW OUR MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL RELATIONSHIPS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE

THE CIA FEELS GRAVE CONCERNS AS TO WHERE THIS TYPE OF PUBLIC DISCUSSION MAY LEAD. THE DG SHOULD BE ASSURED THAT CIA DOES NOT LIGHTLY ADOPT THIS ATTITUDE. YOUR URGENT ADVICE WOULD BE APPRECIATED AS TO THE REPLY WHICH SHOULD BE MADE TO CIA.

AMBASSADOR IS FULLY INFORMED OF THIS MESSAGE.

As Shackley's cable indicated, there were several other CIA men working under cover in Australia. Their identities had not been revealed by Whitlam, but by the media. Nevertheless, there was no way for Shackley and the CIA to know how much Whitlam knew, and how much he would reveal to the public, especially about Pine Gap, but also about other CIA activities in Australia. Shackley may have already known that Whitlam had begun to look into CIA matters in Australia.

By revealing what he knew already, Whitlam had telegraphed his intentions. He had to be stopped.

Whitlam did not have the opportunity to present the proof he had about CIA involvement in Australian politics to Parliament on November 11. He was dismissed by Governor-General Sir John Kerr at 1:10 p.m. that day.

What may be nearly as unfortunate as the Dismissal of an elected government is the timing of Whitlam's revelations about the CIA and Anthony. Labor Minister Clyde Cameron, wrote in his diaries, "Once his allegations hit the headlines, the sources dried up immediately." Whitlam had moved too soon.
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/20%20Years%20of%20Cover-Up2.html
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