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democraticinsurgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 01:18 PM
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Feds knew about 9-11 bribery conspiracy before attacks (Tom Flocco)
an incredible story, directly tieing US based bin Laden brother to Mohammad Atta. This bin Laden was airlifted out of US on 9/19/01...along with 14 family members. The article also reveals that the US gov't was tracking Atta prior to 9/11.

<snip>

After 9-11 Khalil bin Laden was allowed to leave the country via a documented 140-person multi-flight Saudi airlift since the White House declined to hold him as a material witness despite his suspicious connections to the Tri-Border frontier region of Brazil--known for evidence of terrorism--but also his inquiries about bringing in Arabs from Saudi Arabia and Brazil to attend a Florida flight school. Sharrit’s informant daughter Christine later revealed that a Muslim named Lyazid Abad had previously lived with alleged hijacker Mohamed Atta--a fact not lost on the Department of Defense Criminal Investigation Division (DOD-CID) who questioned Christine Sharrit--Abad’s wife--immediately after 9-11, indicating U.S. officials knew about Abad’s and Atta’s movements prior to the attacks.


A court-designated whistleblower with federal protection, (Mary) Schneider added that prior to the 9-11 attacks she contacted Ashcroft six times--including February, March, April, and August 9, 2001--32 days before the attacks, Freeh ten times, Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General Glen Fine seven times--including December 26, 2000 and August 9, 2001, Mueller once--August 9, 2001, but also members of Congress to report that U.S. immigration officials took monetary bribes to assure green cards for illegal Muslims, which facilitated their ability to remain in the U.S. to develop terrorist support networks.

Besides multiple contacts with the FBI, INS and Congress before the attacks, letters were also sent by Schneider since 9-11 to all members of both the Senate and House Permanent Select Committees on Intelligence who have ignored and thus far failed to respond to her pleas for action to remove the terrorist cells.

<snip>

sorry, this one's difficult to excerpt...much much much more, but densely written. INS fraud, subterfuge, gov't complicity, etc. a must read!

http://www.tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=68
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 01:41 PM
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1. Took the time to read it...
Sometimes hard to follow..........

How credible is tomflocco? How come we're just hearing about this for the first time? (at least for me)
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 01:45 PM
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2. Very interesting.
I wonder if this is credible.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 01:52 PM
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3. Good to know somebody is tracking the traitors.
From what I know: Flocco is weird, but he's usually correct.

From the article:

Sharrit’s informant daughter Christine later revealed that a Muslim named Lyazid Abad had previously lived with alleged hijacker Mohamed Atta--a fact not lost on the Department of Defense Criminal Investigation Division (DOD-CID) who questioned Christine Sharrit--Abad’s wife--immediately after 9-11, indicating U.S. officials knew about Abad’s and Atta’s movements prior to the attacks. But the government now wants Lyazid Abad immediately deported from the U.S. and away from a potential grand jury.

BTW: A hearty welcome to DU, awakeinindiana! Thank you for posting this.
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democraticinsurgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 01:57 PM
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4. i think flocco's ok
i like flocco, though he's not much of a writer. that story could have been so much better. i've heard him on late night talk radio a bit. he's out there, but as we are all discovering, hardly any thought is too far out there with * and company.

thanks for the welcome. i am hopelessly addicted. what is going on here at DU is more important than just about anything.

cheers!
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 03:20 PM
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8. Welcome from another DU addict and thanks for the informative post.
While the article strays too far into remote connections, He raises some critical questions. thank you for bringing this to our attention. :dem:
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:02 PM
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5. jeez i wonder if
alot of these govt types all the way upto the idiot knew what was coming down and planned ahead for there own reasons. Some for money, american airlines stock put options. Some for power, well that's preety easy to figure out. Hope this makes it upto mainstream media.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:10 PM
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6. What's Flocco's background again? I hit on About Tom, and it said
"module is unavailable." I don't know if anything he's reported has ever made it into the mainstream, but then that's not unusual.

If his info is correct then it just confirms that as with Sibol Edmunds, Congress and Asscroft are keeping the lid on this can of snakes but at this point the the can is really rocking and giving them a hard time.

Asscroft has shut down or delayed every investigation and I guess they have the judges in their back pocket, so where will this go? Has he sent the info to the 9/11 Widows? There are some hones folks who are investigating so why wouldn't they touch Flocco's report?

Who knows?

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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 03:44 PM
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9. The thing I find most strange is all these things happen in Florida
Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 03:46 PM by nolabels
Not that anybody would have something against Floridians in general, but that does seem to be state where a lot of things are occurring in the last few years. Maybe someone should start a list, maybe we can connect some dots? Hopefully some DUers that live there could help us.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 11:04 PM
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15. Florida has a long history of drug-smuggling and money-laundering
It goes back to the 50's when heroin was being brought in through Cuba and the CIA was setting up money-laundering banks in the Bahamas. All that stuff was based in Florida.

Then, after Batista was kicked out of Cuba (and the Mob with him), Florida became the center of operations for anti-Castro Cubans.

And, of course, the drug-smuggling picked up again in the 80's with the flood of cocaine that was related to Iran-Contra and the secret wars in Latin America.

In more recent years, a variety of right-wing and Bush-related operations have set up shop in Florida as well. And, of course, there are the notorious Venice, FL flight schools -- though those may be there because of the drug connection.

I'd like to know why Jebbie decided to run for governor of Florida. Did he have any real connection with the state, or was there some other reason for him chosing it?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:44 AM
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16. Thanks for the information
There are a few other leads to check up on also, but understanding it's infancy and the outline helps alot

I willing to bet got a few links in my head now but I know there are many things that go into the mix, so I found this for now

"HELP US CHANGE FLORIDA'S DRUG POLICIES"

A History of U.S. Drug Laws

- or -
How did we get into this mess?
Part 1: 1898-1933
by Bob Ramsey

Introduction

In writing on such an enormous topic, it is necessary to scope the job by stating underlying assumptions very briefly: I believe it is impossible to enforce a law that attempts to control any private behavior in which a significant portion of the population chooses to participate. I don't plan to discuss the reasons why this is so, but to describe how each failed attempt to enforce Prohibition laws has led to further erosion of individual liberties. The bottom line is that, for over eighty years we have been attempting to give an ever-expanding number of police agencies enough power to do the impossible, and we have come dangerously close to destroying America in the process.

I will describe a historical thread of U.S. government attempts to improve society by controlling the inside of people's bodies. Trying (or pretending to try) to extinguish a market for certain agricultural products has created counterbalancing incentives for criminal activity in both the private sector and government. Each failure to achieve the stated goal of national purity has fueled cries for more intrusive government power. Hopefully certain facts presented here will interact with others you already know, and will inspire ideas to begin reversing some very alarming trends.
(snip)
http://www.dpffl.org/wodhistory.htm
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 10:37 AM
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17. The Bahamas may also have a lot to do with it
I read your link, and it's an interesting account. It got me thinking about the role of Prohibition in setting up the later complex of drug-smuggling and money-laundering, and that seems to point in the direction of the Bahamas.

The Bahamas were a center of rumrunning operations to the US during Prohibition. They were used as a base for US military operations during World War II. And their permissive financial regulations have made them a haven for all sorts of people with an interest in money-laundering or tax shelters.

I'm going to have to find out more, but it seems like a fruitful area of exploration.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:37 PM
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18. How about the first Bush and his buddy Noriega
The Miami Review

NORIEGA DEFENSE SCORING POINTS

(snip)

THE LAUDERDALE SMUGGELER

Max Mermelstein, a convicted drug smuggler from Fort Lauderdale who testified after the professor, was savaged on cross-examination by Rubino.

For more than a day, Michael P. Sullivan, the assistant U. S. Attorney who heads the government's team, questioned Mermelstein about his business, propping up enlarged photographs of dozens of drug dealers and drug equipment for the jury to ponder. Mermelstein, wearing suit and tie, discussed his connections to the Medellin cartel in a businesslike fashion---how he had visited drug lord Jorge Ochoa at a Colombian hacienda, which he described as "a beautiful property" with a chicken hut, paved runway and bullfighting ring. He testified that be brought "pretty close to 56 tons" of Colombian cocaine into the United States, and that a half-dozen other "flight groups" were in the smuggling business.

But he mentioned Noriega only once, saying that he had never met the former dictator but had once seen a general ledger of cartel drug business in 1983 that "had Noriega's name on top of it."

On cross-examination, Rubino---speaking forcefully and loudly---depicted Mermelstein as someone who has admitted committing worse crimes than those Noriega is charged with.

MURDER IN A VAN

Mermelstein---who spent just two years and 21 days in jail and received a $250,000 bonus for cooperating with the government on one drug case---acknowledged on the stand that he helped plan the contract murder of drug informant Barry Seal in Louisiana. Another time, a man whom he called his "compadre," Rafael Cardona, murdered someone in his van, Mermelstein testified.
(snip)
http://www.frankrubino.com/art_03.htm

Who Has to Care About the BSA and Why

Under the Bank Secrecy Act, a wide range of businesses are defined as “financial institutions,” making them subject to the anti-money laundering regulatory requirements issued by the U.S. Department of the Treasury under 31 CFR Part 103 (the federal “Money Laundering Laws”). But other—sometimes similar—entities do not fall within the definition and the BSA does not apply to them.

The BSA classifies the following businesses as “financial institutions:”

Banks, thrifts and credit unions.
Securities and commodities brokers or dealers.
Currency exchange houses.
Casinos (including tribal casinos) and “card clubs,” in which card players compete with each other.
Issuers, redeemers or cashers of checks, travelers checks, money orders or similar instruments.
Money transmitters.
Postal systems.

The Treasury has not, however, exercised its authority to extend these regulatory requirements to these businesses:

Insurance companies.
Dealers in precious metals, stones or jewels.
Pawnbrokers.
Loan or finance companies.
Travel agencies.
Dealers and sellers of automobiles, airplanes, boats and other vehicles.
People who close and settle real estate transactions.
Federal, state or local government agencies with duties or powers similar to financial institutions.

When financial institutions report suspicious activity to the government, however, a “safe harbor” available under the BSA protects them and their employees against their customers’ civil claims.
(snip)
http://www.aicpa.org/pubs/jofa/jun2001/abel.htm

Which also brings up this link

$9bn money laundering ring broken

50 arrests across Europe as police smash Russian mafia operation

The Europe pages - Observer special

Nick Paton Walsh in Moscow
Sunday June 16, 2002
The Observer
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,738337,00.htm

Which has " Florida Trading, based in Taunton"

Owned by Marc Rich
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A11509-2001Mar1¬Found=true
(I think the link has be stoped but found it here
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/rich.htm

Cheney Aide Helped Rich's Legal Case

By Robert O'Harrow Jr.
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 2, 2001; Page A12

The person largely responsible for key legal arguments cited in Marc Rich's successful pardon application is not Jack Quinn, President Bill Clinton's former White House counsel. It's I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, a longtime Rich lawyer who is now chief of staff for Vice President Cheney.


Since 1985, when he left the State Department and was recruited by former Nixon White House counsel Leonard Garment, Libby spent countless hours reviewing legal documents and interviewing witnesses in a search for cracks in the government's tax evasion indictment of Rich, according to sources. "He spent the next two years traveling around the world," said a person familiar with his work.

He traveled to England, New York, Texas and California, and met with Rich in Switzerland at least eight times to discuss the case, the sources said.
(snip)

It's all about the spooks, the money and the coverups
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 12:57 PM
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19. In Alexander Coburn's "Whiteout" Noriega told his
Edited on Wed Jul-14-04 12:59 PM by seemslikeadream
aide a few weeks before the invasion: "I've got Bush by the balls".

Well, he was obviously wrong about that, but it does imply more than a casual aquaintance.

In Rodney Stich's book "Defrauding America" he cites two witnesses that claim they saw Noreiga on one of Zapata Petroleum's offshore oil rigs near Panama. These rigs are highly suspected of being used for all kinds of illegal activities. Their service helicopters don't fall under normal aviation laws and can be used to ferry drugs, guns, etc.




http://www.webcom.com/pinknoiz/covert/contracoke.html#I <http://www.webcom.com/pinknoiz/covert/contracoke.html >
.....For Kerry’s trouble, Bush ordered Poindexter and Ollie North to get the FBI on Kerry. Could that be why Junior sealed all of Poppy’s papers as soon as he could start signing stuff back in January 2001? Here’s some of what we do have on record::
Read what Jonathan Vankin wrote, back when Iran-Contra drug dealing was merely a risqué subject (today, it’s gone taboo, with reporters losing their jobs for writing stories about it). BTW, I’m sorry I couldn’t post this underneath several posts where it would be apropos.

EXCERPT:
… To comprehend the government’s role in cocaine traffic, (Manuel) Noriega is useful as a kind of focal point. He was on the payroll of the CIA at the same time he worked for the Medellin Cartel for four million dollars per month. The Medellin Cartel is the Columbian cocaine syndicate, responsible for most of the cocaine that enters the U.S.A.
Noriega was also connected to George Bush (Senior), and through Bush to Oliver North. They used Noriega as a conduit for getting arms to the contras.
Bush, North, and other government insiders at the CIA and the National Security Council (which under Reagan got heavily into covert operations) most likely knew about Noriega’s involvement with drugs. Revelations about Noriega, and about direct contra and CIA involvement with cocaine smuggling, found their way into public record via a subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, chaired by John Kerry.
In 1986, Senator Kerry received information that the Costa Rican branch of a Miami-based shrimp company Ocean Hunter, widely regarded as a drug-running front, had received checks for more than $200,000 dollars from the U.S. government. The money was part of the “humanitarian aid” allocated for the contras by Congress. Wondering why the cash was channeled to this shrimp-and-dope outfit, Kerry went to the FBI asking for an inquiry. Instead, the FBI investigated Kerry himself.
SNIP…



Are Noriega and Hussein partying down together?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1133231

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:00 PM
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20. A Short History of Saddam-Bush-Noriega Business
This explains a lot...

A Short History of Saddam-Bush-Noriega Business

Conspiracy Planet

"Saddam Hussein is a guy who came to power through a CIA instigated coup," writes political analyst Al Martin in his column "Saddam, Watch Out for that Soap" published on Al Martin Raw: Political, Economic and Financial Intelligence (www.almartinraw.com )

Author of "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran Contra Insider," Martin, comparing former Panamanian strongman Antonio Noriega with Saddam Hussein, Martin writes, "And don't imagine for one minute what Noriega thought that all the documentation, all the tapes, and all the photos that he had of his meetings with George Bush, Bill Casey and Oliver North, in which North is complaining about Noriega asking for a per kilogram cocaine increase in his kickback money of CIA coke that's moving through Panama, which Noriega had recorded at the Intercontinental Hotel in Panama City, when North was there in that infamous meeting of December 10, 1985 (See "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran Contra Insider" by Al Martin for the details.)

"Noriega thought there's no way they can come after me.

SNIP…

"It should also be remembered how CIA doper George Morales supposedly slipped on a bar of soap in prison and was killed when his head hit the floor," Martin reminds his readers. "That was one day before he was due to be released -- when he was going to Washington to testify before the Kerry Committee hearing."

CONTINUED…

http://www.prisonplanet.com/12200saddamnoriega.html


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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 01:42 PM
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21. Thanks for the update and refresher
The Drugs and money laundering are bad and maybe shouldn't be ignored but the connections of where and who the lead to is also very interesting to me.

This is why Sibel Edmonds also seems such a big story. I have heard it said the courts and law enforcement job is to merily keep the big crooks separated from the little crooks. From what I can gather she was had some kind of job looking at narcotics trafficking as a translator, discovered the 9/11 data, got approached and then squelched when she wouldn't cooperate with this ring inside the FBI doing it. One could more than wonder where some that stuff came from.

Sibel Edmonds Responds to Suit Dismissal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=671218

State Dept. Quashed 9/11 Links To Global Drug Trade
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=610235




WELCOME TO TERRORLAND

Venice, Florida, where three of the four terrorist pilots learned to fly, is the biggest September 11 crime scene that wasn’t reduced to rubble. Yet it has until now received no serious scrutiny for what it might reveal about the nature of the 9/11 attack. Investigative journalist Daniel Hopsicker went searching for evidence that Mohamed Atta and his Hamburg cadre received outside help while they were in the U.S., as authorities initially stated, from a shadowy ‘global network,’ or even from foreign governments.

What he found was a massive cover-up-in-progress in Florida designed to conceal the true story of what was going while Mohamed Atta and his Hamburg cadre conspirators made Venice, Florida their 'home away from home' base for a year and a half.

The book is packed with revelations, many of them stunning:

On morning of the 9/11 attack there was an attempt on the life of President George W. Bush at the hotel where he was staying in Sarasota, Florida by four Arab men...
(snip)
http://www.madcowprod.com/books.html


CIA could have left him a message without incurring international phone charge.

Testifying before the Senate Intelligence Committee last week George Tenet was asked why the CIA never picked up the trail of Marwan al-Shehhi, the pilot who crashed Flight 175 into the south tower on 9/11, when thirty months before, in 1999, German intelligence passed on a hot tip to the CIA with the Al Qaeda terrorist's phone number.

"The Germans gave us a name, Marwan — that's it — and a phone number," the director of central intelligence replied, adding: "They didn't give us a first and a last name until after 9/11, with then additional data.”
(snip)

Real Americans won't be silenced

Fifty-year old Venice housewife Stephanie Frederickson lived right next door to Mohamed Atta and a half dozen other suspected terrorists including Marwan Al-shehhi, at the Sandpiper Apartments across the street from the Venice Airport.

She knew Marwan as “Mahmouti,” she told us, and that he already had “relatives” living in town when he arrived. She stated, “Sara was a pharmacist in Nokomis who was Mahmouti’s cousin.”
(snip)
http://www.madcowprod.com/index48.html
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 02:24 PM
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22. Interesting to know about the Bank Secrecy Act
I've been picking up stuff lately about insurance companies being used both for money-laundering and for spying, going back to World War II. That would certainly be worth looking into further

The diamond trade is also heavily used for money-laundering, especially by the Russian-Israeli Mafia. There have been a couple of murders of diamond merchants in South Africa recently which appear to be related to this, and another, in broad daylight, in midtown Manhattan.

The Russian-Israeli Mafia didn't originate in Israel -- it began with Russians (mostly but not all Jewish) who were allowed to leave the Soviet Union in the 1980's and often turned to crime in the US or wherever else they settled. Israel turned out to be a perfect home base for many of those criminal activities -- because those who were Jewish could claim joint Israeli citizenship and not be extradicted from Israel for crimes elsewhere, and also because Israeli law is very protective of financial secrecy. Both that and the resistance to extradition arise from memories of the holocaust, which makes them understandable, but the effects have been disasterous.

One result is that, as the Russian-Israeli Mafia has gained more and more influence in Israel, the Likud Party, in particular, has become completely corrupt. Also, in addition to ordinary criminal activities, like drug smuggling, the Russian-Israeli Mafia seems to be heavily involved in illicit arms dealing, and particularly the smuggling of weapons into Africa and of diamonds and other valuables out. Marc Rich is tied into all this somehow, as are many of the seamier crime figures in Russia and Eastern Europe.

I posted about some of this on the Plame Indictment threads, but it was pretty peripheral there. It really warrants thorough investigation on its own.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-04 03:32 PM
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23. Working in the underworld to black market Nuke Tech
This is what that Plame case is about isn't it? I posted starting a thread awhile back thinking it was all hyped up B.S. That it was overblown just for a distraction. We see now that Secret Dick has a lot to do with it now. Somehow the connections bear it out, the spooks probably know about a lot of it (but it all goes with to much else that isn't supposed to be known about. I keep on wondering why we can dig this stuff on the net but it never gets reported. Hope we find out in a good way and not in a bad one, what is all really going on.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 02:11 PM
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7. Is that the part of Brazil where Reverend Moon's been buying land?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1847934.stm

The authorities in Brazil are investigating the purchase of vast estates close to its border with Paraguay by the Reverend Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church.

The church owns large amounts of property, including an entire town in Paraguay.

The area is notorious for smuggling and money laundering and Brazil's authorities are worried about a foreigner owning so much land in a border region.


http://www.usasurvival.org/mnrd.shtml

Federal police reported that they began investigating Moon's organization late last year after a former employee said the association was involved in money laundering. A federal judge authorized the seizure of banking and financial records earlier this year.

"Although formally established in this country as a philanthropic entity, the Association of Families for Unification and World Peace has developed a diverse program, generating worries and a high level of doubt in relation to their true objectives," the federal police said in a statement after the raids.

Police officials have said little publicly about the case. But the Brazilian Intelligence Agency, which is also investigating the group, fears Moon's operations threaten national sovereignty, and the military has raised concerns that the reverend has ambitions to start a self-styled "nation" in the vast, open lands of South America.


(The second of these quotes, by the way, is from a Chicago Tribune piece reproduced on a right-wing survivalist site. Interesting that they should be worrying about Moon.)
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 05:45 PM
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10. Evidently, one and the same. Here's a CNN piece on the tri-border area...
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:30 PM
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11. here's what Sibel Edmonds had to say about drug smuggling and $ laundering
Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 06:31 PM by maggrwaggr
SE: I can tell you that the issue, on one side, boils down to money--a lot of money. And it boils down to people and their connections with this money, and that's the portion that, even with this book, has not been mentioned to this day. Because then it starts touching some people in high places.

JH: Can you explain more about what money you are talking about?

SE: The most significant information that we were receiving did not come from counter-terrorism investigations, and I want to emphasize this. It came from counter-intelligence, and certain criminal investigations, and issues that have to do with money laundering operations.

You get to a point where it gets very complex, where you have money laundering activities, drug related activities, and terrorist support activities converging at certain points and becoming one. In certain points - and they are separating those portions from just the terrorist activities. And, as I said, they are citing "foreign relations" which is not the case, because we are not talking about only governmental levels. And I keep underlining semi-legit organizations and following the money. When you do that the picture gets grim. It gets really ugly.

(snip)

http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:41 PM
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12. THE PLATES ARE MOVING


more


Within three months after this issue was addressed in the February, 2003 court deposition of Orlando immigration supervisor Susan Dugas in Schneider vs. Ashcroft & Zigler, the security officer was relocated from the Orlando office after reporting the incidents. The FBI, INS, senators and congressmen with full knowledge failed to take any action to stop the bribery.

Schneider said she contacted U.S. Senators more than one year before the attacks about the allegations linked to Abad, Atta and Khalil bin Laden--including Bob Graham (D-FL), Trent Lott (R-TX), Richard Shelby (R-AL), Arlen Specter (R-PA), Orrin Hatch (R-UT), but also Congressmen Cliff Stearns (R-FL), Joe Scarborough (former Florida Republican congressman and current MSNBC host), Walter Jones (R-NC), Harold Rogers (D-KY), Corrine Brown (D-FL), John Mica (R-FL), Bill McCollum (former Florida Republican congressman and current U.S. Senate candidate), former Florida congressional Republicans Charles Canady (R-FL) and Tillie Fowler (R-FL), Lamar Smith, (R-TX) Dan Burton (R-IN) and David Weldon (R-FL).



Besides multiple contacts with the FBI, INS and Congress before the attacks, Schneider also sent letters since 9-11 to all members of both the Senate and House Permanent Select Committees on Intelligence who have ignored and thus far failed to respond to her pleas for action to remove the terrorist cells.

This, as Byron York of National Review Online (9-11-2002) quoted FBI spokesman Bill Carter: "Unless you have evidence to stop them from leaving the country , they have every right to do that," Carter explained.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:42 PM
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13. Sleeping with the enemy
Exclusive: Breaking 9-11 scandal

Sleeping with the enemy

Homeland Security whistleblower told Congress, Bush, Ashcroft, Mueller, Ridge that Florida immigration officials accepted sham marriage bribes linked to congressional office, al Qaeda operatives, and 9/11 terrorism. House and Senate still silent.

by Tom Flocco

< April 10, 2004 Letter To Chairman Thomas Kean & 9-11 Commission, Washington, DC ( via facsimile, E-mail & FedEx overnight express) : "...Muslim Moroccans were using illegally obtained permanent U.S. residence (green cards) to aid and abet Osama bin Laden terrorist subversives operating out of Orlando and Miami....Since April of 1998, I have repeatedly sent an aggregate total of hundreds of letters, memoranda, emails and official case notes to dozens and dozens of accountable officials: to INS Commissioners Ziglar, Garcia and Aguirre, DOJ OIG Glen Fine, DOJ Attorney General John Ashcroft, DOJ FBI Directors Louis Freeh and Robert Mueller, DOJ Criminal Division, OSC Elaine Kaplan, President George W. Bush, Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and dozens of other congressmen, only to have this sensitive information continually handed over to the known conspirators. This provided them unending opportunities to destroy incriminating material evidence, such as video tapes, and pay off or threaten informants and witnesses."

ORLANDO, FL -- Wednesday, May 26, 2004 Posted 10:30 PM EDT -- TomFlocco.com -- An illegal Moroccan Muslim reportedly linked to Osama bin Laden’s brother and who lived with 9-11 hijacker Mohammed Atta prior to the attacks, allegedly engaged in immigration felony fraud, bribery, and perjury in conjunction with United States immigration officials. The government employees allegedly conspired with this and other illegal Muslim extremists and aliens to approve sham-marriages for the purpose of acquiring permanent green cards to stay in the U.S. before and after the attacks to support terrorist cells in America.

Mary Schneider, a citizenship and immigration services district adjudications officer for the Department of Homeland Security in Orlando told TomFlocco.com in a series of interviews over the past few days that the illegal Muslim was reportedly associated with Osama bin Laden's brother. Khalil bin Laden resided for years in the Orlando area prior to September 11; but the FBI permitted him to leave the country on September 16 without being questioned--despite alleged ties to an al-Qaeda supporter and the lead 9/11 hijacker, according to an outside informant.

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al bupp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 10:30 PM
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14. An Interesting Read
Thanks for the heads up, and welcome from another DU-obsessed relative newbie.

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