Plame Leak coming up now

[Ivote]

after commercial
Wolf Blitzer
www.cnn.com

[MidwestTransplant]

1. Something new????

[jackstraw45]

2. CNN helping the RNC smear Joe Wilson....

I'm sure that's it. I don't watch CNN but knowing what corporate media whores they are, I'm guessing that's it.

[leftchick]

6. you nailed it...

Leslie Blitzer previewed it by saying how Joe Wilson got it wrong. I won't bother to watch... :puke:

[jackstraw45]

26. Gee, how did I know?

Typical Corporate Media BS.

[coeur_de_lion]

3. I'm at work and can't watch it! Please post when it is over n/t

[Sperk]

4. Great reporting CNN!!!!

Nothing new here.....move along.

I wish I had a job that paid me to do nothing!!!

[burrowowl]

5. Pushed the lie that Plame suggested

Wilson be sent. But supposedly another CIA official went along with Wilson's version that it was not her.

[wish_I_could_vote]

9. it so pisses me off

the way the insert sentences like the one saying someone else at the CIA backed up Wilson's version. You can almost see the brackets inserted around the stuff they don't want to say. When will it end??????????????????????????

[burrowowl]

13. Welcome to DU, wish_I_could_vote!

I wish you could vote too. How old are you?

[wish_I_could_vote]

27. ROFL I guess the baby pic was a poor choice

I'm not too young, I'm too Canadian.....married an American and moved here a year ago. I voted for Trudeau the first time he ran..so it is definitely not an age thing :-)

[doctorbombeigh]

7. Missed it - but Plame's going to keep coming...

This one has got legs. My friends kept saying "It's dead!" but that's not how American political scandals work. I direct their attention to Watergate. Started slow, almost non-existent, it was "dead" or at least declared dead. But these things take their course and this one's not over.

The 'national security' administration, huh? This Plame thing is going to get louder as the summer goes on and just keep on kicking thier collective hypocrite ass. It can't be defended ethically and they broke the law. I wouldn't mind seeing Rove frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs, myself.

[DeepModem Mom]

10. Welcome to DU, doctorbombeigh --

I hope you're right about this; I'm having a discouraged moment just now.

[doctorbombeigh]

31. Thanks for the welcome, and cheer up!

Americans, more than almost anything, loathe and despise a hypocrite. What they did to Plame proves them to be exactly what they are - total hypocrites with NO loyalty, NO ethics, and NO conscience.

These clowns willingly and maliciously (and quite illegally) leaked the name of a covert CIA officer - and it ain't over. All the Dems need to do is keep bringing it up once in a while, keep using it to jab, jab, jab. The investigation (always good to have some of those running) will keep right on going.

The longer the Administration pretends that this will go away, the better we like it. Think of the debates! Kerry and Bush on the tube, right before the election, Kerry says something like, "Mr. President, YOU had the power to find out who did this to one of our most important secret CIA operatives who dedicated her entire life to serving this nation and fighting WMD around the world. YOU FAILED to control your staff from the beginning and YOU FAILED to do anything about it YOURSELF when this crime came to light. WHY ARE YOU PROTECTING THE CRIMINALS IN YOUR ADMINISTRATION WHO HAVE PUT OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AT RISK?"

Or blah blah blah whatever. You see where this goes.

Think about American political scandals for a minute. Any one you can think of went this way. Nixon with Watergate, Reagan/Bush with Iran-Contra, Clinton with Starr. It's slow, but inexorable, and someone always gets burned. Add to that the fact that the Agency is MUCHO pissed at Bush and the Administration on other fronts. Plame is one of their own, Rove/Bush threw her to the dogs to cover their own lies. The Agency never forgets.

I think this issue is a winner.

[newyawker99]

21. Hi doctorbombeigh!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[doctorbombeigh]

32. Thanks and howdy back atcha.

[bpilgrim]

33. welcome to DU

:toast:

and i agree, this turd will blossom all summer long :evilgrin:

peace

[DrBB]

8. The indictments are all that matter

Let them report whatever the *cheney* they want. Apparently Fitzgerald is burrowing away at this. If he's honest and the thing gets blown open, none of this heatherbimbomedia bs will make a whit of difference.

[Jane Austin]

16. I hope this is like the Texas investigations of Tom DeLay

Molly Ivins said on The O'Franken Factor yesterday that the reason the Travis County (Texas) Grand Jury investigation is taking so long is because it has spread so wide.

One can only hope. And hope the same for the Plame betrayers.

[4_Legs_Good]

17. Ms. Ivans was on Democracy Now! today...

I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but it's TiVoed

david

[Beetwasher]

11. This Says THEY ARE SCARED!!!! Why Pay Attention and Try To Smear Wilson

if there was nothing to worry about?

Indictments are coming and this is their preemptive strike! This is ENCOURAGING!!!

[TacticalPeek]

18. Exactly. Preemption, pure and simple.

The largest amount ever of the famous substance is fixin' to hit the fan , big-time.

They can have their fun today, but tomorrow the piper gets paid.

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[lancdem]

38. You got it

And I'll bet the Repubs on that Senate Committee knew that, which is why they put that Plame smear in the report.

[pa28]

40. Destroy the messenger

A shopworn Republican tactic that requires a complicit media to work. They want to pre-empt a scandal by smearing Wilson before the indictments come down. The coordination we're seeing makes me wonder how high the investigation goes.

The fact they were able to make a man of Richard Clarke's stature radioactive with the phony "perjury" charge is a testimate to the Conservative bias of the media. Hopefully Wilson is ready for what comes next.

[librechik]

12. hmm--actually gave a balanced view of the tripe in the Senate RPT

about Wilson. Not as bad as it could have been, to say the least! Poor guy has been fending off new attacks because of that partisan whitewashed piece of gar...uh document.

[Wilber_Stool]

14. No leaks

There have been no leaks from this grand jury. I hope that means that this guy Fitzgerald is serious.

[gardenista]

15. GOOD! This means that they're scared enought to send talking points!

This is a very, very good sign! They're trying to do damage control!

Grab your popcorn and watch the show! It's gonna be better than Watergate!

[4_Legs_Good]

19. I was pissed at John Stewart last night for going so easy on Blitzer

He should have nailed him and all the entire Right Winged Corporate Media Machine to the wall for the failures leading up to the Iraqi conquest.

Feh!

david

[Beetwasher]

20. Well, He Did Call Him (or the media rather) RETARDED!

I thought that was pretty good.

That interview really drove home for me what whore Blitzer is though. When he claimed that the admin. in no way leaned on the press, I was aghast. It's obvious he's carries water for them. What a douche.

[4_Legs_Good]

25. Yeah that was good, but...

CNN, Faux, NBC, ABC, NPR not only bought the lie, but by doing so THEY CARRY THE BLAME (at least some of it).

And I wanted to hurl when he (Blitzer) said "we're skeptical by nature". Skeptical exactly what is going to get shoved up your @ss when you bend over for the Administration so you can ride in a tank?

Give me a break! These guys have blood on their hands, every one.

Anyway, Stewart gets some kudos for giving him a hard time, but there should have been accusations flying. That bastard (Blitzer) even got a few advertisements in. I know Stewart is tougher than that.

Grrrrrr....

david

[chelsea0011]

23. I'm watching the rerun right now and the "everybody knew" just was said

How can a clown like Blitzer say everybody said WMD exist. Everybody didn't say they existed. Only the administration and Fox scums said they existed without a doubt. Many questioned the existence.

[4_Legs_Good]

24. Amen! And why wasn't there more coverage of the dissent

I swear the only semi-dissenting views were only to be found on unabashedly liberal and independent outlets (like Democracy Now! and other Pacifica programs). Even NPR took no time to roll over for the administration.

The question was always about whether or not Saddam was cooperating (which he was!), and how long Bush would hold out. It was never about whether the weapons existed, whether Saddam was really a threat to the US.

Have Blitzer explain why they still refer to it as a "pre-emptive war" rather than what it was a "pseudo preventative war".

There was the FAIR report (it was FAIR, right) that ran tallies of what the media covered and who it accepted as "experts". Something like 3 peace activists were covered.

david

[DeepModem Mom]

39. The DC Beltway is a closed echo chamber...

it seems -- they hear only each other's voices magnified, and lack the curiosity to talk to real people, or click a few links on their keyboards!

[DemoTex]

37. So was I! I just watched it on the 7 pm re-run tonight.

Blitzer got a big pass from my main man, Jon Stewart. Jon even missed a comment by Blitzer that could have been great comedic fodder. While talking about his beard, Blitzer said - somewhat soto voce - "I have to have it."

I expected Jon to quip, "Why? To keep the cooties out of your hair?" Or, "Wolf, if you absolutely must have a beard, why not have a real beard?" Stewart, apparently, missed Wolf's comment.

I know Blitzer from the first Gulf war. I had a Pentagon press pass and covered the daily briefings (when I wasn't flying airline trips) for an international aviation news magazine. I always sat next to Washington DC NBC Channel 4's Katie Couric. She and I loved to poke fun at the pompous war-correspondent Blitzer. War Minister Cheney did some of the briefings, and other than some of the great old reporters in the room, I was the only one who had really seen a combat zone. At least for real. Cheney was a fraud then, he is a fraud now.

[sniffa]

22. this shouLd comfort karL rove some

whiLe he's in jaiL.

[goclark]

28. Help me understand

I walked in my room and some idiot on CNN was saying that since Plame tried to recommend her husband for a job that it shows she and husband are lying? - Right/Wrong ?

Then they said that "they had a MEMO that PROVES that it is all a lie.


Is that correct? They lie so much and with such straight ugly faces sometimes even U can't tell if they are telling a lie.:crazy:

[Generator]

35. Godamn it if they aren't blowing smoke up our asses

I'm SO pissed off and disgusted I can't even hang much at DU right now. I just can't take it anymore.

What I got was that Wilson in his book stated that Valerie never recommened him for the Niger trip. SO (BIG CHENEYING DEAL) they have an e-mail that says something to the effect of Plame saying, hey what about my husband for the trip?

So, therefore, everything Wilson/Plame said is false. So therefore they are also claiming now that the Niger claim is not totally false, based on some CIA guy that said it was a-okay. It's a frigging cover-up, and beyond that the reasoning here is that if you tell any kind of untruth then all you say is untrue.

But this has nothing to do with outing Plame as a CIA officer for Christsakes! It's a fucking red herring.

The irony is that this whole dirty filthy rotten cabal of a sham administration lies about every fucking thing it's ever done. So THEREFORE they are to be discounted, not Wilson/Plame.

[indie_voter]

29. what I want to know is who cares

if the wife suggested it or not? Why would this make outing her any less wrong?

This is nothing more than smear. Disgusting.

[doctorbombeigh]

34. It's the same old smear on Plame and her husband...

It's all they have. They, oftimes correctly, believe that the American people will simply dismiss Wilson/Plame but I don't see it coming down that way. Normal, average, apolitical Americans found this Plame thing to be way beyond the pale.

The Dems (some evidence to the contrary) are not stupid. They know the DC scandal game, they know how to play this. They know how to turn up the heat when they want to, say.... in AUGUST sometime? This, along with a few other things to jerk the Repubs around during the convention will hit thier post-convention bump in the polls.

Dems may have been too weak-willed to hold on to the Congress and the White House, but they still know how to yank the Republicans' chain.

I think they're playing some serious hardball - and I wouldn't be surprised to see that evil bastard Delay's chickens come home to roost right about that time, too. He could lose his House seat over that prescription drug bill debacle.

We are not unarmed in this fight.

[robertpaulsen]

30. Be sure to join Plame thread #7 in GD (when it happens)

Not only are we discussing the Plame scandal, but how it relates to so many different political issues. It's a growing think tank, and new minds are highly welcome.

If you haven't checked out the Plame thread yet, I encourage you to do so. Hope to see you there!

[doctorbombeigh]

36. I tried to check out Plame #7 on GenDiscussion but...

Got #6. It froze my (admittedly old, weak) computer. Yikes. Looks HUGE, that thread.

Umm... can anyone (meaning me) start a fresh one or is that bad form?