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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:31 PM
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The envoy who said too much - Jamal Mirsaidov, Uzbekistan
Six hours after Jamal Mirsaidov met with the British ambassador, the limp and mutilated corpse of his grandson was dumped on his doorstep. The body was battered and one arm appeared to have been immersed in boiling fluid until the skin had begun to peel off.

Mirsaidov is a literature professor in the ancient city of Samarkand. His mistake had been to write a letter to British Prime Minister Tony Blair and United States President George Bush alerting them to the daily torture meted out to dissidents in Uzbekistan, their new ally in the war on terror.

Mirsaidov and the ambassador, Craig Murray, doubt the letter was ever delivered but Murray ensured his message was. And though the local prosecutor concluded that the 18-year-old had died of a drug overdose, Murray is convinced he paid the ultimate price for his grandfather's dissent....

Last weekend, in an exclusive interview with The Guardian and Channel 4 News, he spoke for the first time about his turbulent year....

http://www.mg.co.za/Content/l3.asp?ao=118726
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-04 11:38 PM
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1. These photos jog memories of similar handshakes?
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 11:39 PM by Minstrel Boy
Donald Rumsfeld greets President of Uzbekistan, Islam Karimov






Someday, maybe, Karimov will be demonized for "boiling his own people."

And it's true. He does. He's a ruthless fucking bastard.

Which doesn't bother these fine folks in the least.
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Melsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 12:30 AM
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2. I always bring this guy up
to pro-war people. We need to stop supporting torturing dictators in the first place.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 12:33 AM
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3. who's the chick?
hope not april glaspie.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 12:49 AM
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4. Torie Clark, I think
She's Rummy's old flack from the Pentagon that dealt with the press. Sometimes her evasions made Ari Fliescher look like
Mr. Freedom-of-Information personified.
Also known for her horrendous and screamingly bright suits that resembled Easter egg hunts after an air assault and acid trips through the Barney TV set.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 04:11 AM
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5. I'll bet you're right!
I had wondered who she was, came up blank. She's standing next to everyone's little sweetie, Douglas J. Feith, "Under Secretary of Defense for Policy."

The gang's all there, isn't it?

I can't think of anything worse to happen to people than what Uzbekistan's President Islam Karimov has been visiting upon his enemies, and BUSH would, of course, know everything about it. EVERYTHING. He would have to know that at least two men known to the outside world have been boiled up to their waistlines. Goddamned BOILED, before they lucked out and died.



Does this seem unexpected, by any chance?
Deja vu: a string of arrests and police raids in Uzbekistan coincides with U.S. support for the dictator Karimov <21.03.2002>

"Sunday Times": "Karimov takes fight to the Muslims". <01.06.2001>
http://www.muslimuzbekistan.com/eng/genocide.html

So "Karimov takes fight to the Muslims....." Hmmmmmm. Where HAVE we heard a similar sentiment, one would wonder?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-04 04:17 AM
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6. I don't know which is more obscene:
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 04:21 AM by JudiLyn
the photos of President Islam Karimov's torture victems after they succumbed to excessive torture enjoyment, or the actual expressions on the faces of these BUSH monsters as they fawn over this unspeakable monster.

He's absolutely as bad in every way as ANYTHING they have whined to tv cameras about, regarding Saddam Hussein: "Bbbbbbut, he BOILED his own people!"

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