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hightime Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:31 PM
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Report: Michael Jackson to Be Father of Quadruplets
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 02:31 PM by hightime
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Pop star Michael Jackson (news), facing a trial on child molestation charges, is about to become a father to four more children -- quadruplets -- by way of a surrogate mother, Us Weekly magazine reported on Tuesday.

Citing unnamed sources close to the self-proclaimed "King of Pop," the magazine said Jackson recently spent time with the pregnant mother-to-be in Florida, where he stayed in a $4,000-a-night luxury hotel suite in Miami Beach.


The magazine said Jackson's spokeswoman Raymone Bain declined to confirm or deny the story, saying, "We do not respond to these kinds of stories."


Bain could not be immediately reached for comment by Reuters
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=638&u=/nm/20040720/en_nm/people_jackson_dc&printer=1

It would be laughable if it wasn't so troubling.

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:33 PM
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1. Pretty damn scary!
Teh scariest part is the surrogate mother--what is she thinking!?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:35 PM
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2. My guess is that she thinking .......
"I'm in the money!"
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judge_smales Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:45 PM
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7. Doubt it.


He's broke.
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hightime Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:47 PM
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8. That is a relative term. People kill others for $50.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 01:00 PM
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35. Excuse me? Is this supposed to be a jab at someone who seeks abortion?
Anyone who has an unwanted pregnancy and chooses to legally terminate it is not "killing" anyone...

I guess this kind of nonsense would come with a posting from someone so concerned about Michael Jackson...maybe a posting on Scott Petersen is next?

Let's focus on things like healthcare for Americans, the 900 + growing number of dead American soldiers and who leaked Plame's name as a CIA operative...

these kind of postings belong on Fox News or called into Rush Limpballs....
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 03:19 PM
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10. Right.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:35 PM
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3. WHO CARES?!
Christ! When did it become a crime to be WEIRD?
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 05:49 PM
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13.  Good question
I want to know who outed Ms Plame, not this horse shit.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:23 AM
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22. THANK YOU!
You & me both.
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hightime Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:27 PM
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17. When you are weird because you fuck children!
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:23 AM
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21. Dear hightime:
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 11:36 AM by Bertha Venation
This remark is so disgusting it turns my stomach. The man has not yet been tried for the crimes of you & most everyone else, it seems, assumes he's guilty. Do we throw "innocent until proven guilty" out the window because the accused is weird? :eyes:

Edit: I didn't even realize that you started this thread. Now I'm not so surprised at your filthy remark.
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hightime Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:12 PM
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25. I am giving my opinion, one even you admit "most everyone else" holds
I am not a judge or a jury and I am not held to any standard in forming my personal opinion. I know his history...repeated allegations, multi-million dollar payoffs....and I make my own conclusion. Seeing some of the assumptions and tin-foil hat theories that abound on this and other similar internet forums, I don't think my opinion is even close to being out of bounds.

If the comment turns your stomach, welcome aboard...the idea that wacko Jacko would have even more opportunities to abuse children who, in this case, would be too young to act in their own defense turns my stomach also. But, you defend who you want and I will defend who I want. In my case I choose the children. If I am wrong in me opinion...gee, poor Mikey is put out a little, if you are wrong........
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:21 PM
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26. Oh, for sweet christ's sake.
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 12:22 PM by Bertha Venation
I was referring specifically to your phrase "FUCK CHILDREN."

"Gee, poor mikey" -- that's horseshit. I am defending no individual; I am trying to act like someone who believes everyone is innocent until proven guilty -- I thought that was a basic principle of life in the United States, one of those inalienable rights.

You are entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to judge that anyone is guilty and screw the process because you know their history and allegations and payoffs. Enjoy yourself. Me? I find it too hard to be that angry, that hateful, that miserable.

You are also entitled to consider the fact that it is a recovered "child-fuckee" who is here standing up for the RIGHTS of someone accused of child molestation.

edited to remove something excessively inflammatory
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:22 PM
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:26 PM
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29. No.
"Stockholm syndrome." :eyes: Please.

Forgiveness. It's a tremendously freeing thing. It makes it a lot easier to believe people really should be treated as if they were innocent until they're PROVEN guilty.

(Before you go off on a tangent about "how can you forgive Michael Jackson" -- I didn't say that. I have forgiven the men who abused me. It's not for me to forgive anyone else for harm done to others. I can only forgive for harm done to ME.)
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hightime Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:28 PM
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31. I would not have taken that route.."how can you..."
and I couldn't agree more with...It's not for me to forgive anyone else for harm done to others. I can only forgive for harm done to ME.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:47 PM
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44. How can you make it to 400 posts?
:hurts:
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 09:20 AM
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45. That's exactly what I said.
Edited on Thu Jul-22-04 09:22 AM by Bertha Venation
I certainly don't WANT to forgive, but I've had to to survive. That I am able to forgive is pure grace, kismet, whatever. It comes from a strength that must be outside me, 'cause I sure don't feel like forgiving them.

I can't explain how, or why, my ability to forgive leads to my ability to defend the rights of those accused of the crime committed against me (and not just them; I feel a fervent need to defend everyone's rights). But I am only human. Most of the time I'd like to kill, very slowly and very painfully, the men I have forgiven. But I would be slowly and painfully tortured if I could not defend even the rights of someone who is universally loathed. Their rightsremain, despite what they're accused of.*

I guess I should've been a sleazy defense attorney. We all know it's only the sleaze that defends the worst among us. :eyes: If you have to be sleazy to stand up for equal rights for all, then let me be sleazy.

And for the record, yes, as a matter of fact, I am a card carrying member of the American Civil Liberties Union.

* By the same token, I would stand up for the rights of G.W. Bush -- to see that his rights aren't violated if we were lucky enough to see him prosecuted.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:01 PM
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24. Ha! That was hilarious! Understatement of the year.
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 12:16 PM by kysrsoze
I can't stop laughing.

I know it's a terrible subject, but I can't get over how many people defend this P.O.S. People don't want to believe he's a pedophile. Well, so are Bill Wyman, Jerry Lee Lewis, Roman Polanski, Ted Nugent and a host of priests, teachers and principals. When I see him acquitted, I may start to think otherwise. But I think he's guilty - and a freak.

BTW - Presumption of innocence only applies in the presentation of evidence during a trial. When you are charged by a grand jury, you are presumed guilty.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:21 PM
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27. "I can't get over how many people defend this P.O.S." -- see # 26.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:33 PM
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33. He is a piece of shit. I think all child molesters are
That little prick paid off the families of former victims to the tune of millions of dollars so they would not prosecute. Being the former victim you are, I would think you would be incensed that this man may end up with more children. I think that any kind of sexual assault is horrible and disgusting, but the way he said something so obvious made me laugh. Get over it.

By the by, did you really read my post? YOU ARE PRESUMED INNOCENT ONLY DURING THE PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE DURING A TRIAL. Prior to that, you are presumed guilty.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 09:25 AM
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46. Golly. I done been edumacated by the best.
Thank you for enlightening me.

Now: whether you read my post or not, I can see there is no arguing with you. Your mind seems closed to the concepts I'm trying to discuss.

Have a nice day.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:47 PM
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34. Accusing posters of having sex w/ children when you disagree?
You know, its a miracle to me that you have survived on the DU board this long...you are always using profanity, attacking posters personally and your positions always involve either extreme pro-life, gay-bashing, or defending members of the Bush party and attacking dems...
This and other comments churn my stomach...you are showing your true colors and its not the kind of things thatthe DU stands for...
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hightime Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 01:34 PM
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36. What are you talking about?? I accused no posters.
Read the post. I was referring to his question of when weird becomes a crime, specifically in the case of Jackson. As for profanity, this is an adult site and I have not noticed any restriction on language except when directed toward others, and even then it generally gets a pass. I have NEVER used profanity toward other posters. Given, I called someone's theory "stupid" a couple days ago and the mods called me on it. I would never think of telling a poster, such as yourself, to Cheney off...as I have seen repeatedly.

Extreme pro-life????? Give me an example. Gay-bashing???? again, an example please. (If you are going to quote from the current Maryland lesbian court case please try to keep it in the context it was discussed....the Lovings decision and whether it is applicable to the current case....not some of the other posters erroneous impressions of what was being discussed.

Defending Bush and friends? Example....

Attacking Dems? When they do something stupid that hurts the cause. (is dogging Zell OK with you?)

So churn away. I'll be waiting for ALL that proof.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 02:02 PM
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39. Your posts attacking people are deleted...and you know that...
I and others have witnessed you doing all this, so its pretty funny to hear you claiming ignorance and denying it...

Do you deny being pro-life? Do you deny being opposed to Gay marriage? Do you support Kerry? What reasons?

Often when posed w/ these direct questions in postings from myself and others, you never answer...but for you to claim innocence on telling people off, is well, false and those posts have been removed, so only the mods have records..

I'm not churning...I'm chuckling about what your plans are for voting in Ohio are...as I sit here on the DU and nurse my baby, I wonder if you'll bother answering the above questions...in addition to your voting plans and why you support Kerry...



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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:45 PM
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43. going... going...gone!
hightime has but a few moments left...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 03:41 PM
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42. You're still here?
By the way, since you haven't donated to DU, you cannot use the search function. This allows the ones who did donate to see all of your posts... :spank:
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 01:41 PM
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37. there's weird, and then there's criminal.
giving underage kids booze and then fondling them isn't weird, it's criminal. Subtle difference there...
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-04 09:26 AM
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47. I give up.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:36 PM
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4. Michael.....PLEASE GO AWAY....
Your 15 mibutes were up....a long time ago..

His poor kids :(
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:39 PM
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5. Uh.....
:wtf:?

Where the hell is social services? There is no way this idiot should have access to any more children.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 01:44 PM
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38. well, they're "home-grown"...
and it's a lot harder to take a person's kids away than it is to keep other kids from coming over....

I think he's figuring out a way to ensure his future supply and ability to have a choice....
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 02:44 PM
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6. I think he'll make an excellent father
Just as soon as he finishes all his own surgery - he's only half done at the moment.

Choose Kerry Lose Bush - FUCK BUSH - Drop Bush Not Bombs!
http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 03:13 PM
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9. Michael Jackson, a father?
Someone had it in for him....
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 11:31 AM
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23. In more than one way..
.. but just the thoguh of THAT makes my stomach turn x(
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TryingToWarnYou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 04:20 PM
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11. Hey, alright! 4 more completely dysfunctional children for him to abuse
/sarcasm
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 04:36 PM
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12. So that would make him a father of 7 children overall ?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:02 PM
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14. Jacko is so testosterone deficient that...
his balls are probably the size of pin heads. How can he be consider the "father" to anyone?
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:14 PM
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15. I really didn't need that image in my head........
Thanks!

;-)
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:24 PM
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16. Can't he just buy some dogs or maybe another monkey?
How is adding more children to the situation going to help?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:47 PM
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18. Here we go again,
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 06:48 PM by JDPriestly
A big Michael Jackson story right as the news begins to focus on the Democrats. It never fails.

A poor parent accused of child molestation would probably have to deal with a welfare investigation. Has any welfare authority ever investigated how Jackson treats his child?

One of the worst scandals in our society is the great proportion of poor children that are taken into foster care. I'd like to see a study comparing the frequency of foster care for children of various economic strata.

I suppose Jackson still has enough money to keep his kid out of foster care.
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hightime Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 06:52 PM
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19. Yes but the present story is Sandy Berger...so it might help.
also, I don't think Jacko took the Dem convention into account when he decided the date of impregnation. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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LastDemocratInSC Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 07:08 PM
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20. Damn, he looks like a patient of the plastic surgeon in the movie "Brazil"
"Brazil" was a production of some of the Monty Python guys and is worth watching. One of the scenes has a plastic surgeon who crows about his "snip-snip" technique at the funeral of one of his patients. The poor person had been turned into a semi-fluid mush by his work and had been held together with sheets of clear plastic wrapped around the body.

Life imitates art after all.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:27 PM
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30. OMG. This and the recovery of hostage Paul Johnson's head in Saudi
Arabia are LBN:puke::argh::grr:

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 12:32 PM
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32. Are we sure it's not a typo for "quadrupeds"? Never say Neverland...
He's going to go out like the Challenger.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 02:09 PM
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40. Damn! How's he going to dangle FOUR babies when he's got only TWO hands?
Edited on Wed Jul-21-04 02:10 PM by KansDem
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-04 02:13 PM
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41. I'd like to know whose floating him credit ...
... to stay in a $4k/nt resort, when he's supposedly up for bankruptcy or foreclosure or some such on Neverland ....


:wtf:
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